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star crash

star crash

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TheDarkStorm said:
Wow star crash that your tarantula...thats quite a spider...do you by any chance have some snaps of the markings on the back.
The plants have taken off quite fast...looks like your looking after them very well.
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The tarantula Pic is lifted from the internet :eek:: Wally’s seedlings are like this >>>
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Brother Nature

Brother Nature

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Interesting, hopefully this is actually legit and signals a positive shift in the polices attitude.





https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/cr...on-blind-siding-frontline-staff-and-officials


Police slash annual cannabis operation, blind siding frontline staff and officials




Police have quietly shelved their annual cannabis eradication operation in a major change that has blind sided frontline staff and the police minister.


For more than 20 years, officers have taken to the skies with the New Zealand Defence Force as part of a national operation to find back country cannabis plots.


However, Stuff can reveal top brass at Police National Headquarters, which provides more than $700,000 a year to fund hundreds of hours of flight time for helicopters and planes used in the operation, have decided to scrap it.


One of the reasons the operation has been grounded is a lack of appetite from the leaders of the 12 police districts.


That’s despite the operation netting tens of thousands of plants every year, and police previously saying it prevented hundreds of millions of dollars worth of socio-economic harm.

No official announcement about the change had been made to frontline staff before Stuff began asking questions about it on Tuesday.


However, police confirmed the move in a statement on Tuesday evening.


A spokeswoman said the decision was made jointly by staff at a national and district level.


“With the increased harm in many communities arising from other drugs, particularly methamphetamine, a one-size-fits-all annual aerial national cannabis operation no longer represents the most appropriate deployment of police resources,” she said.


Targeting the illicit supply of cannabis remained a focus and funding was available for districts that wanted “tactical support” to find plantations.


Police Minister Poto Williams was unaware of the change until she was contacted by Stuff on Tuesday.


“While this is an operational matter, I have asked for a full briefing as to the rationale behind this decision.”


The NZ Drug Foundation hoped the change meant police would dedicate more resource to targetting “much more harmful substances such as methamphetamine”.


The foundation's executive director, Sarah Helm, said police had taken a “pure supply control” approach to cannabis for many decades and had “demonstrably failed.”


“While we pour resources into cannabis, methamphetamine is wreaking havoc on communities. We hope this changed approach represents a shift in police prioritisation.”


Police Association president Chris Cahill said frontline staff should have been notified of the change, which was a “significant departure” from previous years.


“I can understand that police have priorities ... but everything has consequences and if you’re not going to do these big operations then there at least needs to be a commitment to do some district-level operations.


Organised crime groups remained heavily involved in the cultivation and supply of cannabis and “make a significant amount of money out of it”.


Many illicit guns and stolen property were found during the operations.


“That still needs to be addressed given the ongoing risk firearms in the hands of criminals present to New Zealanders.”


The cannabis referendum bill that would have legalised cannabis was narrowly defeated at last year's election, with 50.7 per cent of voters opting against it, and 48.4 per cent for it.


National's police spokesman Simeon Brown said police needed to be transparent about their reasons for scrapping the operation.


“New Zealanders voted to reject legalisation of cannabis – it's an illegal drug and it causes significant harm in our communities. There's a lot of organised crime involved in this.


“Police should explain what the justification is for not cracking down on this.”
The shelving of the cannabis operation is among several significant shifts in policing since Commissioner Andrew Coster took charge last year.

Stuff last year revealed a major shake-up of police pursuit procedures.


An internal police email leaked to Stuff advised staff not to pursue fleeing drivers unless the threat posed “outweighs the risk of harm by the pursuit”.


A leaked online training module showed the new procedures meant a car believed to contain 3 kilograms of meth, a suspected drink-driver, and stolen vehicles would no longer be pursued.


The new policy aimed to “change a culture that is decades old”.
Between 2009 and 2018, 67 people died during police pursuits.
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Gosh Brother! Things must be bad over there if your Police are letting " ... hundreds of millions of dollars worth of socio-economic harm" to continue. What actually is that? Socio-economic harm, I mean. Maybe it's we don't collect no taxes sorta harm? Too laid back to drive fast kinda harm, maybe?[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
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Brother Nature

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It's a "Wish I woulda put out more plants" kinda harm to me ;) Maybe they have finally realized the socio-economic benefit of it? Or maybe just the public relations benefit? :D




Or they're lying and gonna double up and enforce the full extent of the law after the recent referendum didn't pass. :sasmokin:
 
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Well, if your Referendum failed, yet the blurb above is factual, it means that your country is being run by Social Scientists who have a compassionate agenda.

(When I say compassionate I don't mean they love everyone ... just that being friendly and taking into account human foibles instead of banning them is more sensible and keeps the peace longer.)
 
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It sure is

It sure is

It sure is one big Social Science Experiment.


Sat X RB said:
Well, if your Referendum failed, yet the blurb above is factual, it means that your country is being run by Social Scientists who have a compassionate agenda.

(When I say compassionate I don't mean they love everyone ... just that being friendly and taking into account human foibles instead of banning them is more sensible and keeps the peace longer.)
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Brother Nature

Brother Nature

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Sat X RB said:
Well, if your Referendum failed, yet the blurb above is factual, it means that your country is being run by Social Scientists who have a compassionate agenda.

(When I say compassionate I don't mean they love everyone ... just that being friendly and taking into account human foibles instead of banning them is more sensible and keeps the peace longer.)
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That's definitely how I'd look at our political parties, ones more economic focused and the other more focused on social progress, though both aren't really that different. Clearly we're living under the more social focused one at the moment. I can't even recall a public discussion on police reform but it seems to be what's happening. Focusing more on violent crime, gangs, firearms, meth, and less on the things that don't cause such negative societal changes, they've even stopped giving chase on cars that run as it has too much of a potential negative impact on the local communities. Though growing up in the US I can say I've never thought the police here overuse their power, every incident I've had with them was conducted in a mostly congenial way (aside from them taking my weed). Man this c99 makes me ramble... :kos:
 
Gypsy Nirvana

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Hmmm - yeah mate - but I have a distinct feeling that if I still owned my Ducati - and didn't have to sell it while I was in jail - I would now be brown-bread (dead) - in the month that I did own it - there was quite a few close shaves - rocketing along dodgy roads in the Philippines - lol

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Donald Mallard

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yea i thought that too ,
i was a bit wild when younger and owned some super fast bikes ,
but im still here ,
and i think im a bit more sensible , well with hope , ahha ,,



nice bike btw , i think mine and yours are from the same stock looking at that headlight, frame and pipes etc ..


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Gypsy Nirvana

Gypsy Nirvana

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- the Ducati Diavel 1260 S1 shown is a more recent model of the Diavel that I had back in 2013 -

- Please be careful mate - after losing S4L - Fallen Buddha and other cherished members in that last year - I don't want you to join the list -
 
Bud Green

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I never drove one of those crotch rockets... too fast for my liking...

100 mph was what mine would do...
I had it when I was 20 thru 24 years old...
This one isn't mine, but is exactly identical to it, right down to the color and waxy shine...it's a 1971 Honda 450 with 2 overhead cams...
It was 3 years old when i bought it...

It was best when either my blonde or red-headed girlfriends had their arms around me, trying to hang on..

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