are you biased against people who don't look like you?

[dddaver]

I don't mean this to be as sexist as it sounds, it is just a joke, and actually, it goes both ways. Men do the same thing. I always get a kick out of bad toupees. Like "Are you TRYING to look stupid?" But then again, I have all my hair, so ....

But, I always liked that joke, "I just want a REAL man", said the woman with the fake boobs, fake eyelashes, wig, face lift, and pound of make-up."

 

[AvidLerner]

the more i can blend in with my surroundings the easier it is to do what I want

Exactly. I embrace the chameleon within, and appear to fit in. I rarely state what I feel or think to others. That way I always get what I need and they get what they want.

 

[AvidLerner]

I've been reading Ramana, he has some interesting insight when it comes to the ego.

The Ego is exists to destroy the Self. The Ego is the antithesis of living, it is dying. The birth of an Ego is the death of a life.

Stay in The Moment and he Ego no longer exists. There is No I within Us. In the Moment only Us exists, both past and future disappear, along with the Ego.

thanks for the Thought of The Moment, How Noble!

 

[Ready4]

Got some great laughs out of this thread ! lol

For those of you that have something to worry about and are in business of growing for $$$, you should damn well
definitely dress better & get that hair cut short, even carrying a bible to car, cutting lawn timely, etc.
Is it conforming ? No, it is called common sense & smart business sense. Are neighbors nosy ? You bet, but some of that is because you have not established a level of trust in their eyes often. They want to be able to leave their homes without the fear of you breaking in and stealing their valuables.
It is a matter of perspective, where you live can certainly change that. But instead of viewing it as conformity, view it as you are going undercover. Just like the pigs grow long hair , pretend to be bikers, etc , you are going in the other direction to avoid suspicion.
Myself, I do not want to look like some Michael Bolton redneck clown lol. And for those of you having trouble getting laid ( quality, not quantity) cleaning your image up will have a positive affect in most cases.

 

[amanda88]

Cognitive biases abound, I work hard to think outside of those constraints.

Some scholars believe they are unavoidable and most people do not have a choice in the matter. I firmly disagree.

These are the mirrors that people like Alpert had broken through the study of psychedelics at Harvard university. I think some weeds provide a similar vehicle.

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Maggie Smith has been nominated for a BAFTA for Leading Actress,

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Maggie Smith winner of Best Actress at London's Evening Standard Film Awards.

 

[dddaver]

Got some great laughs out of this thread ! lol

For those of you that have something to worry about and are in business of growing for $$$, you should damn well
definitely dress better & get that hair cut short, even carrying a bible to car, cutting lawn timely, etc.
Is it conforming ? No, it is called common sense & smart business sense. Are neighbors nosy ? You bet, but some of that is because you have not established a level of trust in their eyes often. They want to be able to leave their homes without the fear of you breaking in and stealing their valuables.
It is a matter of perspective, where you live can certainly change that. But instead of viewing it as conformity, view it as you are going undercover. Just like the pigs grow long hair , pretend to be bikers, etc , you are going in the other direction to avoid suspicion.
Myself, I do not want to look like some Michael Bolton redneck clown lol. And for those of you having trouble getting laid ( quality, not quantity) cleaning your image up will have a postive affect in most cases.

I see what you're saying, and overall agree. But I myself am very wary of Bible thumpers. Some of the very worst, biased, crazy, vindictive, mean, unchristian things are perpetrated by those people. If you question that, go south young man. Look at US history.

 

[Ready4]

I see what you're saying, and overall agree. But I myself am very wary of Bible thumpers. Some of the very worst, biased, crazy, vindictive, mean, unchristian things are perpetrated by those people. If you question that, go south young man. Look at US history.

Not that young lol And I agree with you 100% on the thumpers & "convenient so-called christians" Told a woman who was in a terrible "relationship" with one of the "important" church men ( evil maggot in reality) that if she sees a man under 75 years old walking with a bible, she should flee asap lol

Just a good idea in some neighborhoods or areas to carry one, the type of neighbors who would be assholes will be fooled by this and it might keep some other folks away too !
Never hurts to have a bible in plain sight when you get pulled over either, Jesus could save you a trip to jail !

 

[growingcrazy]

Not that young lol And I agree with you 100% on the thumpers & "convenient so-called christians" Told a woman who was in a terrible "relationship" with one of the "important" church men ( evil maggot in reality) that if she sees a man under 75 years old walking with a bible, she should flee asap lol

Just a good idea in some neighborhoods or areas to carry one, the type of neighbors who would be assholes will be fooled by this and it might keep some other folks away too !
Never hurts to have a bible in plain sight when you get pulled over either, Jesus could save you a trip to jail !

Oddly enough, my old neighbor is a state trooper. He is leary of occupants of vehicles with open view bibles.. They have found so much contraband/weapons in such a high percentage of those vehicles. Profiling of a right wing religious republican happens just as much as that of a hippie in an officers line of work. Less likely hood of the stoner being armed and having religious/racist biased in event of a confrontation.

If we all could just learn to stop associating with a "group" we would all be further ahead. We base our entire existence on trying to be fake. We aren't bakers, laywers or any other man made title. We are humans, a species on the planet like any other.

 

[Hank Hemp]

Whatever happened to being a freak? I don't have the proper credentials to be a hippie. Being a volunteer Viet Nam infantry vet, we called ourselves freaks or heads. Not hippies. I still call myself a freak. I would bet the Pinball Wizard does the same, huh pinball.

 

[Betterhaff]

The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers

 

[Ready4]

Oddly enough, my old neighbor is a state trooper. He is leary of occupants of vehicles with open view bibles.. They have found so much contraband/weapons in such a high percentage of those vehicles. Profiling of a right wing religious republican happens just as much as that of a hippie in an officers line of work. Less likely hood of the stoner being armed and having religious/racist biased in event of a confrontation.

If we all could just learn to stop associating with a "group" we would all be further ahead. We base our entire existence on trying to be fake. We aren't bakers, laywers or any other man made title. We are humans, a species on the planet like any other.

Yeah in the Mitten that might be with some intelligent troopers. But in other Red States to the south, far right wing thumpers are far more acceptable & far more prevalent in society as a norm - certainly far less suspicious than "hippies".
Just my opinion.

Risk reduction is smart in any business ; if you are going to grow for a living then appearing as conforming, boring and "normal" as possible is just smart business.
As well as being calm at ALL times ( when pulled over for sure) and always having the open attitude that you have done or are not doing anything wrong - being nervous gets people popped very often.

 

[mrS0ul]

Freaks.

Freaks.

Whatever happened to being a freak? I don't have the proper credentials to be a hippie. Being a volunteer Viet Nam infantry vet, we called ourselves freaks or heads. I still call myself a freak.

Also I am wary of a lot of the folks who identify as hippy. Crusty kids w/ new dreads always send up an immediate red flag. Drainbows. Shiv you over a dirty bologna sammich' ime. [Rabid / Fervant / Evangelistic Atheistic comment redacted] are the pseudo hippies, who have none of the spirit of the original idea.
Walking Contradiction.

I can blend in w/ them as well.

If you are a true Freak it is easy to recognize your kind.
The only people for me are the mad ones*



~S0ul

 

[armedoldhippy]

damn old long haired pot-smokin' hippy-freaks...GET A HAIRCUT & A JOB!

 

[Payaso]

Anyway... back to the topic at hand... or has this been discussed to the end?

 

[stoned-trout]

ya ,,,if ya aint got gills and a steelhead your not my type....yeehaw...so bring your own weed...

 

[Weird]

I didn't become legal because people pretended not to be about it.

If you hide behind a false persona because what you do is criminal you are putting out a false persona. It is not a judgement against anyone, as I have done the same for self perseverance, but the reality of causation that comes from it remains. The reality of obfuscation of truth remains.

Have any of you come full circle enough to have a discussion about the long term consequences and effects of clandestine growing? I came online not for any other reason than to connect with someone else like me cause after years and years of growing and hiding it, it became fucking lonely. I was doing this before there were welcoming communities on the web and in real life.

Back in the late 90s' when Kyle Kushman was in high times he said you couldn't have friends in this business. Ironic that he is pretty networked and successful now and that he had to break his own "protocol" to get his name out there.

I know plenty of heads with dreads to their knees that throw down just as hard if not harder and don't compromise the integrity of how they present themselves to the world. I am not saying everyone has to wear their lifestyle on their sleeve. This is not centric to growers or sub cultures, but to even the mainstream business world where everyone is programmed to think that presenting yourself as you want to be perceived is actually beneficial to society/humanity/ourselves as individuals.

It is a primitive instinct that does not serve any purpose but allow for false impressions.

 

[mrS0ul]

Funny Weird, because I think you are one of the coolest personas I have come across. Mostly from reading your contributions to this site. 'Genuine-ness' has a certain aura about it and exceptional examples of such can shine thru this wired medium.



~S0ul

 

[growingcrazy]

I am not saying everyone has to wear their lifestyle on their sleeve. This is not centric to growers or sub cultures, but to even the mainstream business world where everyone is programmed to think that presenting yourself as you want to be perceived is actually beneficial to society/humanity/ourselves as individuals.

It is a primitive instinct that does not serve any purpose but allow for false impressions.

If everybody did follow the practice of "wearing their lifestyle on their sleeve", imagine the cultural and world changing events that would occur..

 

[Genghis Kush]

yes

 

[Weird]

As someone who comes from NY metro area, people wearing their lifestyle on their sleeves is not uncommon. As someone who likes the grateful dead subculture the same could be said about those who are a part of it. As someone who comes from multicultural blood lines it doesn't feel unnatural at all.