Anything outdoors 2020

[Serrated Margin]

I'm posting this here rather than the sick plant section as as outdoor growers I'm hoping you'll have some input.

I got this seedling that is white about 5 days since the root popped out of the seed. Will it green up or do I have a problem I'm unaware of?

Appears too wet. Starting seeds in small containers and planting out after they have grown some is a good strategy. Seedlings are most vulnerable when just getting started. All sorts of pests, can take the whole plant, cutworms will do kill the plant in one meal. 4" nursery pots are a good size, when the plant is rooted enough to hold the rootball together when handled with care is a good time to plant in the ground. They should be 8-12" tall by then.



Your plants will likely grow faster initially in potting soil than in the ground. Most reasonable quality potting soils are fine for starting seeds. You may have to fertilize occasionally very lightly in potting soil.



Nothing more is really needed than what you would do to grow common veggies from seed. Not harder or more complicated than tomatoes or zuchinni.

 

[repuk]

So I may start them in that soil (I'll dig some up) instead of going with pure peat and perlite.

Or maybe using that peat/perlite to amend the unworkable soil?

 

[SouthFace]

New here and not seasoned in OD but is a thicket of honeysuckle and brambles a possible guerrilla site? Good sun exposure but swampy area, concern is mold/insects/animals in that order. Advice for the first schematic? Anyone with swamp tube exp?

 

[St. Phatty]

New here and not seasoned in OD but is a thicket of honeysuckle and brambles a possible guerrilla site? Good sun exposure but swampy area, concern is mold/insects/animals in that order. Advice for the first schematic? Anyone with swamp tube exp?

got to watch out for random things.

e.g. a bear getting into your water stash, then backing out with a 42 gallon contractor bag on its head and stepping all over your plants.

 

[therevverend]

In Mendocino and Northern California in general, there's a lot of controversy over using poison to kill rodents. People using way more then the recommended amount, going deep in the woods and leaving the stuff all over the place. They tested fishers, fisher cats, which are elusive animals that stay away from where people live. In the older growth forest. 85% have anticoagulant rodent poison in his system.

This guy my friend knows, built a crude deer fence around his patch. He saw a few of his plants were getting chewed on, a couple were knocked over. Gets all pissed off and upset. Decides he's going to do something about it. He buys a big bucket of rodent poison. Instead of taking a little bit out and placing it where rodents are likely to find it he takes the whole fucking wad of the shit out of the bucket and puts it on his fence.

Couple days later he goes out there. Leaves are everywhere, plants are ripped to pieces. Holes dug over, chewed stems, fence tore down. He follows the trail of destruction into the forest and finds a dead bear.

My friend says to him, 'Dude you killed a fucking bear. You have bad karma for the rest of your life.' What a fool.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

I don't always do it, but in a patch of ~20 or more I put a goodie hole where I pour amendments, fish, blood/bone meal.. anything I can bring with me. Those holes get tore and dug up to shit. Rarely do my plants get attention. Only the odd one. By far, the biggest vandals for me are Raccoons and Foxes. If I cage them, the cages get mangled, but that's about it.

 

['Boogieman']

A few years ago I had a raccoon climb a chicken wire cage and get stuck inside, then he tried to dig his way out but I bury the chicken wire because of moles. I pulled the fence and he scattered off into the woods. My plant was completely demolished. Now I close the top of the chicken wire so nothing can climb in.

 

[JustSumTomatoes]

I ran the pH and it is definitely out of range... Definitely bellow 6.0 with how yellow it turned immediately.


Backpacks have been assembled and are ready.

 

[hamstring]

I love your back pack.

You should look into one of these(ALPS OutdoorZ Commander Freighter Frame) I love mine. I have carried so many bales with this. Its also good for bringing out the harvest. I have to sit down to put mine on. The trick is getting up fully loaded.

I cant imagine carrying one of those 30-40 minutes into the bush. I have carried 8 bales in on day. 35 minutes one way.

You got some big balls and strong back brother .

I ran the pH and it is definitely out of range... Definitely bellow 6.0 with how yellow it turned immediately.
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Backpacks have been assembled and are ready.
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[hamstring]

Take a look at 10yr old post. Man I'm old.

Till this day I use this same method. You can see from the post this is pre fem seed. I can leave them for two weeks unattended. Like many have said set it up a week ahead a time to let the critters see there is nothing they want in there. Keeps out bugs and mice. I have found a small decay snake living in it once.

Love the thread.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=172279

Appears too wet. Starting seeds in small containers and planting out after they have grown some is a good strategy. Seedlings are most vulnerable when just getting started. All sorts of pests, can take the whole plant, cutworms will do kill the plant in one meal. 4" nursery pots are a good size, when the plant is rooted enough to hold the rootball together when handled with care is a good time to plant in the ground. They should be 8-12" tall by then.



Your plants will likely grow faster initially in potting soil than in the ground. Most reasonable quality potting soils are fine for starting seeds. You may have to fertilize occasionally very lightly in potting soil.



Nothing more is really needed than what you would do to grow common veggies from seed. Not harder or more complicated than tomatoes or zuchinni.

 

[JustSumTomatoes]

I love your back pack.

You should look into one of these(ALPS OutdoorZ Commander Freighter Frame) I love mine. I have carried so many bales with this. Its also good for bringing out the harvest. I have to sit down to put mine on. The trick is getting up fully loaded.

I cant imagine carrying one of those 30-40 minutes into the bush. I have carried 8 bales in on day. 35 minutes one way.

You got some big balls and strong back brother .

Thanks lol. I've been thinking about getting something like that, just every Spring I try to keep everything within budget and either recycle soil, or if I have to carry it in I Jimmy rig a backpack out of duck tape. Would definitely be a worthwhile investment though.

 

[hamstring]

Thanks lol. I've been thinking about getting something like that, just every Spring I try to keep everything within budget and either recycle soil, or if I have to carry it in I Jimmy rig a backpack out of duck tape. Would definitely be a worthwhile investment though.

Hey brother I have been there. I made my own packs too. After I spent the cash on beans I didnt have a lot left over.

The pack is relatively cheap $100-120 frog skins. When I put the bale in it I have really pull hard to get the straps to buckle. Its a back saver for sure.

You will find many more uses too I promise. 40lbs of wet in tarp will pack out well to if you pack it right. Cuts down on the paranoia when you dont have to worry about the simple shit. You know what I mean.

Truth is I dont pack in bales unless I am doing swamp bucket grows. I just pack in my cold frame and set it up. All my holes are predug in May with slow release ferts in them. Seeds go in the cold frame.

Again cut down on the paranoia of bringing in seedlings or clones which I have done too.

 

[hamstring]

New here and not seasoned in OD but is a thicket of honeysuckle and brambles a possible guerrilla site? Good sun exposure but swampy area, concern is mold/insects/animals in that order. Advice for the first schematic? Anyone with swamp tube exp?

Its a great site for swamp buckets. Do a search on twoheads. Hes the brother you want to emulate for this type of grow. A lot less people in the swamp too.

Mold usually isnt a issue. With no tress you get lots of sun . I have never had mold issues with a swamp grow. Lowlands hell yes put true swamp with no trees blocking light, no. In fact no bugs either if the sun is shining. Hotter than fuck though. Bring lots of water to drink.

 

[LizardMan]

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[Big Eggy]

Looks like I underestimated how much soil mix I would need. Must have taken about 200ish litres up there.. But still need another 60 I reckon.

Weather is shit here atm so a another week in the greenhouse isn't too bad.

 

[JustSumTomatoes]

Hey brother I have been there. I made my own packs too. After I spent the cash on beans I didnt have a lot left over.

The pack is relatively cheap $100-120 frog skins. When I put the bale in it I have really pull hard to get the straps to buckle. Its a back saver for sure.

You will find many more uses too I promise. 40lbs of wet in tarp will pack out well to if you pack it right. Cuts down on the paranoia when you dont have to worry about the simple shit. You know what I mean.

Truth is I dont pack in bales unless I am doing swamp bucket grows. I just pack in my cold frame and set it up. All my holes are predug in May with slow release ferts in them. Seeds go in the cold frame.

Again cut down on the paranoia of bringing in seedlings or clones which I have done too.

Definitely will be something I look into for the future. I already am into camping and hiking so I'm sure I'll find more than one use for it. I was hauling in my bales last night and while treading up through a creek one of the straps broke haha. So I slinged the other strap around my neck and carried it in both arms. I hit one spot where I began to sink down in the mud, about knee level. It was a bit freaky cause I felt myself sinking deeper and couldn't let go of the bale. I kept my cool and was able to slowly wiggle my legs out while maintaining my balance.

My back is going to be full of knots today lol. But yeah, the plot is setup and the seedlings are in. I have one extra pot as one of the Nl seedlings was washed out in a storm a few days ago... So, I'm going to drop in an Orange lights seedling when I return in a week or so.

I feel it on the security risk of taking in plants/clones. Several years ago I had a cop spotlight me while I was crossing a field carrying a flat of plants. Bout gave me a damn stroke, I jumped into the woods and hunkered down in a creek bed. Johnny law must have thought they had seen an animal or just didn't care enough to do something and left soon after. I carried on with on with the mission and harvested some spectacular plants 5 months later. Since then I carry only week to 10 day-old seedlings that are packed in these little travel pods I make and go into my actual backpack, not the bales lol. This year I put little food tents over them to protect them from bugs until they are strong enough to hold their own against them.

I've been thinking about just dropping a bunch of seeds in and letting them grow, keep the strongest and weeding out the rest. I need to stock up on my mold-resistant strain seeds so I have enough to play around with.

 

[dirty-joe]

Looks like I underestimated how much soil mix I would need. Must have taken about 200ish litres up there.. But still need another 60 I reckon.

So about 60 liter holes, that sounds plenty big enough to me. I probably (lazy) would have quit digging at 40 liters (or 10 gal.)

 

[dirty-joe]

Some 2nd round
@28 days yesterday June 12.
No inside head start for these, just sprout, and out.
Strain is SG, (Scotian Gold at F2) a cross of Gorilla Gold X Dinafem White widow XXL auto.


For me the gorilla gold didn't finish at end of August like it was supposed to, and the Dinafem WW XXL were just too damn small at about 75 days total. The cross suits me perfectly, a 90 day weed. Given decent light will have branches right to the ground, and can easily make a QP. Best one last year was 175 grams.

 

[mr.brunch]

25 days old- missing the sunshine this last week but they’ve definitely grown. One is showing a preflower or two , and the sun is out today

 

[hamstring]

Hey brother you sound like a young me. Like your intestinal fortitude. I dont post much anymore in the outdoor forum since I got my med license . Its fun to commiserate with fellow guerrillas. I love learning from the indoor growers but I am a guerrilla at heart.

It would suck to break a leg out in the bush right? Stay safe. Job #1 one is Entrance/Exit strategy many guerrillas never learn that. I own a kayak and am a avid biker . Both hobbies were started to support my guerrilla habit. Habit vs hobby

Many of my Entrance( capitalize to express importance) strategies start with a 5mile bike ride to a kayak dropped off at 4:30am . Then a 1.5 hr paddle to my spot. The spot may not even be remote. Its about the Entrance/Exit strategy.

Keep up the good work. I'm sure we can both come up with some good stories. I have had my time on IC talking about them now its yours.

For close to 13 years I have been doing everything in the bush. I have over a 90% success ratio of starting seeds in the bush. I dont mean harvest I mean germ rates. Completely different outcome on harvest ratio.

Definitely will be something I look into for the future. I already am into camping and hiking so I'm sure I'll find more than one use for it. I was hauling in my bales last night and while treading up through a creek one of the straps broke haha. So I slinged the other strap around my neck and carried it in both arms. I hit one spot where I began to sink down in the mud, about knee level. It was a bit freaky cause I felt myself sinking deeper and couldn't let go of the bale. I kept my cool and was able to slowly wiggle my legs out while maintaining my balance.

My back is going to be full of knots today lol. But yeah, the plot is setup and the seedlings are in. I have one extra pot as one of the Nl seedlings was washed out in a storm a few days ago... So, I'm going to drop in an Orange lights seedling when I return in a week or so.

I feel it on the security risk of taking in plants/clones. Several years ago I had a cop spotlight me while I was crossing a field carrying a flat of plants. Bout gave me a damn stroke, I jumped into the woods and hunkered down in a creek bed. Johnny law must have thought they had seen an animal or just didn't care enough to do something and left soon after. I carried on with on with the mission and harvested some spectacular plants 5 months later. Since then I carry only week to 10 day-old seedlings that are packed in these little travel pods I make and go into my actual backpack, not the bales lol. This year I put little food tents over them to protect them from bugs until they are strong enough to hold their own against them.

I've been thinking about just dropping a bunch of seeds in and letting them grow, keep the strongest and weeding out the rest. I need to stock up on my mold-resistant strain seeds so I have enough to play around with.