TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
That's only because I have makeup on. lol
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Anything outdoors 2020
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How many nodes, and what's the growth rate like ?
I say if they are growing at a "normal" rate probably not lockout.
FWIW, (and optional reading) I never once gave a thought to PH for years, sometimes used a handful of lime, many times I didn't, and always managed some decent weeds. That is up until this year, and after probably reading too many forum posts about PH, and the best (perfect) PH. All that got me thinking my leaf mold is not quite old enough, and may be acidic...OMG what about my water...So I bought a test kit, the simple manual type and it turns out my leaf mold, old cattle manure, compost mix is way above ideal PH, probably 7.5 to 8. How will the plants ever grow ?
The rain water is 5.5, (from the tap is 7+ but I rarely use that) Acid rain, I'm going back to not worrying about it.
JustSumTomatoes
Indicas make dreams happen
No nodes at all yet. Still have the cotyledon with the first two little serrated leaves poking out. Growth rate is normal but the tips of the leaves are shriveling up and are yellowing.
For me, proper pH range was one of my first lessons in growing. Doesn't matter how much you fertilize them if they can't absorb it. I hate breaking my routine of how I do things, but this season it's for the better. Normally I use Happy Frog soil for the entire grow but this year I'm going the soiless route and using chemical fertilizers. Way less to carry, more cost effective, and easier to standardize. It will make me a better grower in the long run to be able to grow with a variety of different methods and resources. Just have to get through the learning curve.
These are Northern lights seedlings by the way... Very forgiving.
JustSomTomatoes said:
JustSomTomatoes, do you mean coco + salts? or a peat + ammendments mix?
That's exactly my reasoning for going coco this year in outdoors.
I want to learn the organic way, but honestly, for me, is way simpler, several orders of magnitude cheaper, much less stuff to be stocked on, and gives me much more room for error going coco+salts than soil. I'm stocked on salts for years to come, only need to source (or reuse) coco.
Only thing I'm thinking is if it will be a PITA to fertigate all outdoors plants, but in a guerrilla scenario it would be even worse, do you plan to set some sort of autofeeding? peat doesn't retain humidity much... water crystals?
Lebanese Increasing Photoperiod Test Chopped
Lebanese Increasing Photoperiod Test Chopped
Finally the increasing photoperiod was too much, and started throwing nanas here and there, she was I'd say 80% ripe, so chop time.
Scent to ripe mango, foxtails, or better say sprigs, the thickness of a pinky finger, lenght like index finger, all spiralled in forming colas thicker than my fist.
Learnt a lot from the experience, specially got a good hang on coco dosages outdoors with big, fast plants, totally different ballgame vs indoors.
Toying with the idea of using lebanese to breed other semiautos w/o any NL blood.
I have always sucked badly growing autos, ending always with dwarfs, or much smaller plants than the ones I see being grown here.
Let's see how I pull these two (Zamaldelica Auto) first time I sow in huge pots (for coco, 20L) outdoors.
Lebanese Increasing Photoperiod Test Chopped
Finally the increasing photoperiod was too much, and started throwing nanas here and there, she was I'd say 80% ripe, so chop time.
Scent to ripe mango, foxtails, or better say sprigs, the thickness of a pinky finger, lenght like index finger, all spiralled in forming colas thicker than my fist.
Learnt a lot from the experience, specially got a good hang on coco dosages outdoors with big, fast plants, totally different ballgame vs indoors.
Toying with the idea of using lebanese to breed other semiautos w/o any NL blood.
I have always sucked badly growing autos, ending always with dwarfs, or much smaller plants than the ones I see being grown here.
Let's see how I pull these two (Zamaldelica Auto) first time I sow in huge pots (for coco, 20L) outdoors.
I'm sure you already know it, that with not one true set of leaves you "probably" were a little quick with the ferts.
It will be interesting to see just how acidic your peat is. "Canadian sphagnum peat moss has a pH of around 4.5". Definitely outside of ideal.
As far as less to carry, unless your native soil is toxic waste, or pure clay, or something in a gorilla situation I would use it, and only add a gallon or two of amendments per plant.
And last, hard to go too far wrong with northern lights.
TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
Love your little 2 pot greenhouse. lol
And... are your plants on a tenis court? Why the high fence?
Heheh... yes, now they're 5 pots... really happy with the outcome, I can see the seedlings growing really fast... as son as they bulk will remove the "greenhouse" roof.
Hahah good eyes!
Yes was/is a rather beaten up tennis court... Setting an outdoor gym/grow there, the plants love it (optimal sun irradiation).
I'm posting this here rather than the sick plant section as as outdoor growers I'm hoping you'll have some input.
I got this seedling that is white about 5 days since the root popped out of the seed. Will it green up or do I have a problem I'm unaware of?
I had a seedling of another strain do this a few weeks ago but I snapped it whist examining it so don't know if it would have greened up. I'm only using the sun in the greenhouse and the weather has been lacking sun for the last week.
I've always hated seeds as I'm so shit at getting them established.. Seriously considering secret cab to house bonsai mums, not sure where it would go.
I got this seedling that is white about 5 days since the root popped out of the seed. Will it green up or do I have a problem I'm unaware of?
I had a seedling of another strain do this a few weeks ago but I snapped it whist examining it so don't know if it would have greened up. I'm only using the sun in the greenhouse and the weather has been lacking sun for the last week.
I've always hated seeds as I'm so shit at getting them established.. Seriously considering secret cab to house bonsai mums, not sure where it would go.
Hey, even after you get them "established" there is no guarantee. That last picture I posted, nice plant over a foot tall, stalk as big as my little finger, guess what...some worm bored into the stalk at ground level, and basically chewed it off.
Was my nicest in-ground plant, and some what pissed, but what you gonna do ? nothing but cry.
I would "think" your seedling should green up, it is pretty young. About time for some good luck, eh ?
I also like the idea of bonsai moms, I seen somewhere a guy keeping them in 4 inch square pots for a long time.
I did a tutorial here a long time ago about how I established and kept bonsai mothers and fathers for years under 2x 10w strip lights, I used to take tiny 1.5inch clones and root under the same lights. I took my inspiration from OT1 over at overgrow though mine were a lot smaller than his.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=211910
I seem to have lost my mojo after the long break.. let's hope I get back on form quick.
I've popped another seed for a standby.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=211910
I seem to have lost my mojo after the long break.. let's hope I get back on form quick.
I've popped another seed for a standby.
I feel you Big Eggy, take it easy, you'll get your mojo back. Our passion goes against short term memory 
I know someone that routinely screws several seedlings outdoors each year... 
It always boils down to too much water, too much sun, or to summarize, impatience. Third comes spoiled medium.
Loved the bonsai mom tutorial!
I know someone that routinely screws several seedlings outdoors each year...
It always boils down to too much water, too much sun, or to summarize, impatience. Third comes spoiled medium.
Loved the bonsai mom tutorial!
JustSumTomatoes
Indicas make dreams happen
I will be using Sunshine Advanced #4. It's a peat, coco, and perlite mix that contains no nutrients. I will be using Osmocote as a time-release fertilizer occasionally supplementing it with Jack's if need be. The water crystals idea is a good one, I plan to be doing a swamp run so it may not be necessary. You're right though, peat is hydrophobic.
Yeah totally lol. Definitely should of held off on the feeding. Normally I would never do that, but again I normally don't grow in just peat/perlite. Been giving them a gentle flush with tap water that is slightly alkaline. Hopefully that will help correct the pH issue until I can get them planted in the Sunshine mix which is pH buffered.
I had a pretty good sized storm come through so I'll give that pH a check tomorrow afternoon when it dries out and I can run some water through to test it. My guess is 5.5 but 4.5 may not be too far off.
In the one spot the soil is totally unworkable. I've tried it and the plants just drown because there is ZERO drainage and no ability for the roots to breath. The other spot is promising, I want to stick with the pots for this season and see how things go. If the spot is a good one and they don't get ripped I'll have the soil professionally tested so I know exactly how to amend it properly.
Nl is an awesome guerrilla strain for sure. Looks like I may have lost a seedling to the storm though. Luckily I have a few dozen Orange Lights (Northern lights x Orange grove) that I'm germinating tonight as a backup. I threw a shitload into my birdseed pile last year and they started popping up everywhere! So I may start them in that soil (I'll dig some up) instead of going with pure peat and perlite.
