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Mudballs2.0

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I thought you were saying small plants produce better weed independently of bud size.
Great...now im gonna be thinking on that all day vegeta, dammit...
I like higher carbon media/soil mixes i know that now. Im pretty sure these plants prefer a higher Carbon-to-Nitrogen Ratio environment but i think that's just a 'healthier plants is better smoke' thing.not really a direct carbon flower relationship
 

St. Phatty

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Does anybody in the Northern Hemisphere still have plants in the ground, outside of a Greenhouse ?

I don't know how many members ICMag has in Chile. But I bet there's some great pot being grown in South America, Africa, Australia, NZ.

Maybe even Antarctica !
 

revegeta666

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Does anybody in the Northern Hemisphere still have plants in the ground, outside of a Greenhouse ?

I don't know how many members ICMag has in Chile. But I bet there's some great pot being grown in South America, Africa, Australia, NZ.

Maybe even Antarctica !

I do, although not really for smoking. Last year I selected a Nepal Jam mom, and I took a clone outside in early October to test how well she would handle the cold, as this strain is sold as cold resistant. It is thriving and couldn't be happier, even though she has gotten zero hours of direct light because she is behind the house. Buds are very small of course because of this, but she looks so happy in the cold that next autumn I will give her a place in the sun to see how well she would do for a late grow.
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Zero hours of direct light, zero nutrients, and zero water (only rain and morning dew). Will give me like 3-4 joints haha but isn't she pretty, turning almost completely black/blue.

This is what the mom looked like last summer.
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Sorry that's a long post for such a shitty little clone haha.
 

pipeline

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Great...now im gonna be thinking on that all day vegeta, dammit...
I like higher carbon media/soil mixes i know that now. Im pretty sure these plants prefer a higher Carbon-to-Nitrogen Ratio environment but i think that's just a 'healthier plants is better smoke' thing.not really a direct carbon flower relationship
No, we're talking about 2 different things, Ed Rosenthal was talking about carbon in terms of energy in the form of sugar. A balanced plant, is a happy plant, a happy plant is a potent plant. Roots need to be able to support the shoots, and the plant has to be able to support growth at all the budsites it has made. Large plants are probably not quite as happy since they have to manage more carbon sources and sinks (places of use) during times of fast growth and wide environmental stresses.

In the media, you want low Carbon to Nitrogen (C:N ratio or else you cause Nitrogen immobilization as the nutrients in the media will go to feed the microorganisms to break down the material as in a high C:N ratio material.
 

Mudballs2.0

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No, we're talking about 2 different things, Ed Rosenthal was talking about carbon in terms of energy in the form of sugar. A balanced plant, is a happy plant, a happy plant is a potent plant. Roots need to be able to support the shoots, and the plant has to be able to support growth at all the budsites it has made. Large plants are probably not quite as happy since they have to manage more carbon sources and sinks (places of use) during times of fast growth and wide environmental stresses.

In the media, you want low Carbon to Nitrogen (C:N ratio or else you cause Nitrogen immobilization as the nutrients in the media will go to feed the microorganisms to break down the material as in a high C:N ratio material.
Mineralisation and immobilisation are two opposite terms. Mineralisation refers to the conversion of organic matter to mineral nutrients, which are readily absorbed by plants, whereas immobilisation refers to mineral uptake by soil microbes and conversion to organic matter, which is unavailable to plants
When your mix has enough organic matter, that immobilized N isn't as much a concern cuz there's just always N available.
About the higher C:N , I once used a mix out in my yard that had like 5x the amount of chopped leaves of my compost in it. I said screw it let's see what happens, i know tannins can cause problems but i had read about C:N ratios in composting...that lead to me reading about plants and C:N...anyway im convinced my plants with the higher C:N soil are banging better than my first natural soil mixes with less leaf/organic matter. We're both right and in the middle somewhere is an ideal setting i reckon.
 

pipeline

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Well higher C allows for more food for the little bugs so that would activate the soil just like when plant roots excrete sugars for the little bugs to eat. Plus the addition of organic matter is always helpful.
 

40degsouth

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Hey everyone, l hope you’re all doing well coming into the silly season 👍
St. Phatty…..l can tell you %100 they used to grow pot in the greenhouses in Antarctica……from memory it was Casey station owned by the Australians. The reason I know this is because one of my old acquaintances was the ship’s captain that bought back the booty after a female scientist dobbed them in to the government.
On the voyage back he was told to only land with nine plants because the Australian Antarctic Territories come under Australian Capital Territory laws and as it happens, this is the very spot the Australian Parliament resides with all the politicians, of course and had a plant count of nine plants at the time.
Because the crew were not only contracted but in international waters, so they weren’t bound by Australian law and the skipper told them to get rid of half the plants which took the number down to six or so. His instructions from the Feds was to throw them over the side but in actual fact the chef cooked them up into biscuits and cakes and they all had a merry little trip back.
When he was questioned as to why there were less plants on board than he was instructed to bring back his reply was…”just to be sure”. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
So there ya go St. Phatty,
funny old world.
40.
 

Ol'_Haze_Nut

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Here's my planned outdoor 2022 grow (as opposed to volunteer posted a few days ago). A melange of primarily equatorial NLDs (and hybrids of same) from all around the equator🌍🌎🌏. There's 50 some females representing some 30 different breeding varieties tagged by 17 males. 1 gal. Pots, low nitrogen, one early topping, and short photo period effectively miniaturized these tortured troopers. Photos are all from July 27ish @ 44° N., but thanks to light deprivation (except for lanky Purple Satellite, back rt.), they are 8 weeks into flowering. The ones that surpassed 20 weeks fowering were brought inside to finish. My unobtainable objective is to create something better than Original Haze🤪.

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pipeline

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Revegetta-- Nepal Jam looks like a pretty nice indica. Is that just a Nepal Hashplant or is it a hybrid? They tolerate shade well, and they seem to bounce back from the cold. Cool little experiment! In the fall light is limited anyway, so indica is the best choice.

Speaking of not getting direct light, we haven't seen the sun in about a week, we're due for a good snow. :smoke:

40--Its only a silly season if you harden your heart to the truth. The Living God teaches us.

Thats a crazy story, so they are growing in Antarctica! They took it down to six just to be safe. Haha, they got plenty of herb for the biscuits then.

Old Haze, Wow you were doing a breeding program. What is NLD? Landraces? Little 1 gal containers, thats pretty small! I guess it helps to get more individuals for the breeding project. They look a little stressed though, herb is tough. Glad you're doing some breeding work! Let us know what you find!

I need to be careful drying the crop next year, you really have be careful at harvest or else you can lose terpenes and potency. The crop was dried outside for about 12 days, which is longer than I wanted, but at 7 days they were not yet dry. I went out in the evening and started getting them jarred and the flowers were too dry. The next morning the flowers were remoistened because of overnight humidity and all these jars kept their terpenes pretty well are are good smoke. The first 2 jars that were done dry lost some terpenes and potency. You have to learn by experience. Drying and curing cannabis is an art form and every year is different.

Last week of decent warm weather then we're going to take the winter plunge it looks like. Going out to pull the last of the potatoes and burp the jars again. I about gave up on pulling the posts, still in moderate drought. Supposed to get an inch of rain next week, but I think I will leave them if they don't stand out.

I think I will just continue to work the line I have next year. I may get some Deep Chunk to grow along side one of these years if a good reproduction comes out.

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Hashislife

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Thats a big fat hooter man! I don't think you'd want to smoke one that big with some of the potent herb around here. You'd be set for a while. :smoke:

St Phatty- Yeah we were growing trees and shrubs actually from seed. The smaller the plant the harder it is to transplant. Some of them you just transplant a clump of the little seedlings then thin them out later to the strongest ones. I feel like a rough them up too much sometimes, but they always make it. One of my friends years ago transplanted a small seedling by pulling it straight out of the ground and transplanting. Just make sure they have moisture and get water soon.

Thats great Ol Haze man! Growing volunteers gives a little selective pressure for a strong individual. They get to enjoy a full season with a head start so it would optimize potency. Another advantage to breeding at home, you get some volunteer plants starting the garden for you. Had to dig around them, I left about 6 inches on each side. I had a volunteer in the lawn I posted earlier, I kept mowing over it on accident and it survived and was getting up to half a foot tall with several sets of leaves!

How is your breeding program going? What are you working on? Thats where its at. If you work a line for long enough, grow out enough individuals, set goals, you will find something special you can call your own.

Looks like some great hash there! I always keep mine put away for a rainy day. Well its a dark rainy day, maybe I should get it out. What are the black balls? Is that finger hash or did you compress the bubble hash runs from the washer? Were you using fresh wet cannabis for your runs?

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Volunteers are center 2nd and 3rd plant back. Topped them early and it worked out just right to keep an even canopy.

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A spliff like that?:smokey::rasta: IMG_20221210_160558.jpg IMG_20221210_160447.jpg

actually I pressed the ice o lator, which gave a nice black ball, this being just a test with a low-end weed that I was given. in the days to come I will make a washing machine with the fruit of my harvest. I hesitate between starting with kumaoni or with superskunk. the charas I made with kumaoni is stored properly, to smoke it in January😉🙈
 

40degsouth

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Hey Pipeline,
Yeah, the crazy part was the convoluted, behind the scenes cover up for twelve plants. This happened during a time when “the war on drugs”, in Australia, encompassed class A’s and cannabis and law enforcement assets and sentences, were thrown at both with the same enthusiasm. The hilarious part is that the crew, with full knowledge and encouragement of the captain, ingested the plants that they were told never existed in the first place 🤣🤣
The hypocrisy of the parliament to create its own political safety net, in the Australian Capital Territory, so politicians and their staffers couldn’t be charged with cultivation or possession and therefore bring discredit to their particular party they were affiliated with, was the very thing that got all the scientists off the hook and of course, everyone, including the station and expedition leaders knew what was going on and had done for quite some time; no one ever got charged and everything got swept under the carpet rather quickly because let’s face it, it’s just so darn cool. 🤣🤣
I’m pretty sure no one on Australian bases are growing pot anymore but the woman that blew the whistle never got back down there because no one wanted to work with someone that couldn’t be trusted and it turned out to be a spiteful and vindictive act anyway.
Funny old life,
40.
 
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pipeline

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So the politicians get the medicine but nobody else does. Power corrupts. Cool story, thanks for sharing! Thats funny!

I have been really pleased with the quality of the flowers this year. Here is a nice dense medical indica that is mellow sweet and does allow you to smoke more and 1 toke. It's strong, so one toke at a time is still good. Like this stuff. It doesn't have some of the strong almost overwhelming sativa like qualities as are in some of the other "sativa candy spice" phenotypes. :smoke:

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revegeta666

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Revegetta-- Nepal Jam looks like a pretty nice indica. Is that just a Nepal Hashplant or is it a hybrid? They tolerate shade well, and they seem to bounce back from the cold. Cool little experiment! In the fall light is limited anyway, so indica is the best choice.

Speaking of not getting direct light, we haven't seen the sun in about a week, we're due for a good snow. :smoke:

40--Its only a silly season if you harden your heart to the truth. The Living God teaches us.

Thats a crazy story, so they are growing in Antarctica! They took it down to six just to be safe. Haha, they got plenty of herb for the biscuits then.

Old Haze, Wow you were doing a breeding program. What is NLD? Landraces? Little 1 gal containers, thats pretty small! I guess it helps to get more individuals for the breeding project. They look a little stressed though, herb is tough. Glad you're doing some breeding work! Let us know what you find!

I need to be careful drying the crop next year, you really have be careful at harvest or else you can lose terpenes and potency. The crop was dried outside for about 12 days, which is longer than I wanted, but at 7 days they were not yet dry. I went out in the evening and started getting them jarred and the flowers were too dry. The next morning the flowers were remoistened because of overnight humidity and all these jars kept their terpenes pretty well are are good smoke. The first 2 jars that were done dry lost some terpenes and potency. You have to learn by experience. Drying and curing cannabis is an art form and every year is different.

Last week of decent warm weather then we're going to take the winter plunge it looks like. Going out to pull the last of the potatoes and burp the jars again. I about gave up on pulling the posts, still in moderate drought. Supposed to get an inch of rain next week, but I think I will leave them if they don't stand out.

I think I will just continue to work the line I have next year. I may get some Deep Chunk to grow along side one of these years if a good reproduction comes out.

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Sorry man I missed your question. It is a Nepal/Jamaica hybrid originally made by Cannabiogen, now sold by ace seeds. It does grow like an indica and has a short flower but actually has a clear sativa effect. Something you see many breeders claim but is only true on very few occasions. The Nepali part is a hasplant yes.
 

Hashislife

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Do you have make any hash/oil with Nepal jam? Every year i think to make it. The flavor/effect it's more like Himalayan sativa or tropical sativa? Energetic clear sativa or psychedelic?
 

revegeta666

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Do you have make any hash/oil with Nepal jam? Every year i think to make it. The flavor/effect it's more like Himalayan sativa or tropical sativa? Energetic clear sativa or psychedelic?
I haven't made any hash with it but you very well could. The effect is blissful, happy and carefree. It's not specially energetic nor psychedelic. The Nepali in the cross is a BLD hashplant. The flavor is floral.

Edit - This is the same mom, grown indoors.
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pipeline

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Sounds like a good hash plant! Thats what you want.

Finally getting our soaking rain tonight. Still in moderate drought, isn't going to rain until it gets cold this year. Hope next year doesn't turn out to be a big long drought. The forecast is drought removal likely this month and the next 3 months. Another drought in the late summer/fall would be alright to help with harvest!

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pipeline

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Picked up a 21 ct pack of Humboldt CSI Deep Chunk '03 reproduction. Can't wait to see what we find. May see some fireworks!

Woah 3 of them sold today, better get your packs!

 

pipeline

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Yep, they''ll be outside so we'll get to see their potential. Will move them up to the front so they get the best light exposure.

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