Anyone growing big (4k+) in a rental unit?

[RingoStar]

do you know enough people with enough scratch to continually pay for the produce without pushing sacks out of the place you grow? [ big no-no. ] Like 1/2 pound to a pound a week?

Amen...



~r

 

[Leaf it to me]

First question I ask of anyone going big is do you know enough people with enough scratch to continually pay for the produce without pushing sacks out of the place you grow? [ big no-no. ] Like 1/2 pound to a pound a week?

Yes I do. One person. That is the only person I will distribute anything to.

 

[Guest]

Well at least that way you'll know who snitched on you. Best advice I can offer has already been said. Start with a smaller set up and expand the grow exponentially as you gain skills. This smells like a disaster IMHO. I bought my first lights from a person who had an idea just like you.

 

[Verite]

Yes I do. One person. That is the only person I will distribute anything to.

Rule #2, dont put all your chickens into one basket.

If person #1 and only goes down, gets a cranky GF, finds religion, you are back at square one.

Having a good primary is a great deal, but also having one or two overflow folks doesnt hurt the mix either.

 

[Leaf it to me]

lol, finds religion...yeah...

It's a very old friend and I expect to be given very long notice if he is no longer game. At that point, I would explore other avenues and revamp other relationships.

I dont know if they like us talking about this stuff here so I was trying to stay away from it. I've thought all this through....

I'm just not sure about the venting issue though.

My delimma is this
I'm trying to find a rental unit and it's hard finding something that I'll be able to get rid of that hot air in. The places I'd be moving into don't have attics. So I would be drilling a hole from the bedroom directly above....then slicing through insulation...then shoving a vent up there....

Where's all that hot air gonna go? It's gonna get backed up. I dont think houses have any open gaps in their roof to conveniently exhaust hot air buildup in the space in between (between the room ceiling and the roof).

 

[Delta9-THC]

lol leaf 100w to 5000w is a little different ... you should start on something close to what you already done
Your proposing sometnihg like
your 110w to a 5000w
i.e a 10w flouro to a 250w hps in difference of grow styles and capability

also ... your now proposing to setup the whole house and vent thru the roof or chimney like I saw on the news the other day ... erm Police must know about it then .... lol
Do you seriously think you can pul it off? I dont

your experience is too limited

Do as some of these guys said and work your way up slowly ... otherwise its gonna be one hell of a bankrupty ....
Seems to me its
All outgoings ($) + no experience = Problems ... + 1 court case = Rest of life trying to recover

anyway if you do try I admire the effort ... but I wont be expecting it to work straight away .... maybe in a few years once you work out everything you'll need .....

Like security in case someone dosen't like you growin on their area
Or experience ... like what to do when your electricity surges... or the plants become sick.... and you have to get rid of a whole crop .....
5KW worth ,,,, lol
Anyway as I said ( and I mean this) GOOD LUCK

Peace

 

[Leaf it to me]

As usual, I appreciate the honest advice. I'm not concerned with my experience, I'm concerned with hot air.

I must say that I'm surprised that everyone is clamoring about issues that aren't the most serious. I dont think experience is the issue here as much as keeping the temperature down.

A failed crop late in flower do to the fact that I can't measure nutrients correctly isn't the same as a failed crop because of heat exhuastion or something else that I cannot fix down the road. As long as I find the right place, I'm set.

Do as some of these guys said and work your way up slowly ... otherwise its gonna be one hell of a bankrupty ....

I'll do this only if I have no choice. I'm going all out first, and if the heat is too much then I'll scale down...get a real job, etc. This is something intend to avoid at almost all costs....as it would be at least a year before I could rent a new place and go big.

screw that. I'm gonna find a suitable house.

 

[Verite]

Safe to say you wont be able to conceal a 5kwatt grow in a rental unit if the landlord is any kind of halfway decent one. At that point your heat will be a fraction the problem as the smell is.

 

[Guest423]

make sure to grow a good strain like sour d or superskunk...something that stinks alot has the best bag appeal lol

 

[Leaf it to me]

Safe to say you wont be able to conceal a 5kwatt grow in a rental unit if the landlord is any kind of halfway decent one. At that point your heat will be a fraction the problem as the smell is.

Why would the property management company come into the house or even go upstairs? In a rental home, maintenance isn't going to be coming in or any of that. I suppose its' possible they could request to see something in the bedroom. But it seems unlikely until it's time for me to leave. As long as there's no breaker in the room or anything...



I plan on keeping the smell concealed to the room it's in (Cant this be done with an excessive amount of carbon scrubbing if the room is sealed off otherwise? I could even put a scrubber on the fan that is sucking air from the air cooled lights.

 

[Kootenay]

I used to do shows between 6-10,000 watts in rental properties. Now we grow in our homes we bought. If using alot of power in your grow dont try to keep it going for 4 years, hit it for about 5 crops and then move. You should not have any problem.

 

[Leaf it to me]

^You did shows? Like this was in canada and you were showing people how to grow?

How big was the house? How did you handle the hot air and the smell? Dude if I could hit a house up for 6k for 2 years, I'd be so set....

 

[vta]

If I were going to use 5K of lighting its pretty obvious to me that you would want to use cool tubes with Daytons and one of these...


And for the smell, get a Vaportek and forget about the scrubbers...your electric bill is going to be enough as it is.

 

[Kootenay]

Sorry no TV shows but we call them "grow shows" up here in BC...lol. I would recommend at least a 3 bedroom house (1000 square feet +) with a basement for anything 6000 watts and larger. Also an old hot tub on the deck that is not hooked up will add some extra sense of security for your power consumption. For the 6000-8000 watt setups i use a 12" HO Canfan with a 150 Canfilter for my Smell and heat control. in hotter areas Canfilter makes a new HO 14" Canfan that is more efficient that the 12", which can handle 2 of the larger 150 canfilters. Excellent products they have.

 

[Leaf it to me]

How much will a vaportek cost me? I didn't rule out cooltubes, but I thought they might not be worth it since I had to vent into the attic, and there would need to be an upward bend of the duct.

There are no basements in the region that I'm looking at. I'm looking at 3br that are 1400+ sq. feet. I'd have to grow in the master bedroom upstairs...vent into the attic. I dont know how many other bedrooms I could afford to keep the shades closed on.

The good news is that it doesn't snow, so I won't have to worry about my home being the only one without snow on the roof

 

[Delta9-THC]

Kootenay ... I apreciate your trying to help the guy but he's only got experience with 100w ....
In my opinion he should work his way up and eventually have the experience to provide for the crop ....

As we all know prevention is the best form of protection ...

So Heat / Light / AirFlow/ Securtiy all become problems
Isn't it best to know exactly what your doing first then run a grow on that spec ... much less likely to fail

later start a crop thats bigger

Im sure , kootenay, you didn't start on a 5000w

(I'm sure we could all provide him/her with extensive grow plans but is that really neceasary at this point?? )
anyways

Peace

 

[Kootenay]

You are totally right brother i didnt start on a 5000 watt show it actually was a total of 34,000 watts total just in lighting and two 4 ton airconditioners when i was 18. Iam sorry Delta 9 i thought he was asking about 4k + like in the threads title. Also you should have a minimum of 150 cfm per 1k for you exhaust. Good luck on your setup.

 

[Delta9-THC]

jesus Kooty .... lol you didn't get what I said at all he he hehe

Leaf ///
Good luck... document it if you manage to get past planning ....... ever
Peace

 

[Kootenay]

That will teach me for posting info..

 

[Verite]

Imo its a lot of talk about going big and smuggling etc to someone with 100 watts experience. Its going nowhere until this guy gets a pad and starts posting pics of " Ok, what do I do now? ", until then hes basically wasting our time with his fantasy grow.