any kiss users have exp. with veg+bloom

[g0dzilla]

He factored the percentages down to their lowest common denominator for direct comparison. V+B is stronger, but they are pretty similar in composition. For example, if you take a fertilizer that has a 3-1-2 ratio and another that has 15-5-10, they have the same ratios of NPK but the second fertilizer is three times as strong.

Yeah i see what he did but truly saying that maxigrow is similar enough to v+b that plants wouldn't notice a difference. Now I'm not sure that is true. Again the ratios ARE different and i wouldn't use maxi grow from start to finish. Maxi bloom is the better option. Just ask the kiss folks.

 

[green thumbs]

Im not encouraging people to use maxigrow over V+B, I was just asking if they had similarities on their ratios. Obviously V+B is strong and has other things that aren't listed on the label. There's actually people who use maxigrow from start to finish its in the k.I.s.s thread somewhere

 

[g0dzilla]

Im not encouraging people to use maxigrow over V+B, I was just asking if they had similarities on their ratios. Obviously V+B is strong and has other things that aren't listed on the label. There's actually people who use maxigrow from start to finish its in the k.I.s.s thread somewhere

Cool. Always someone out there doing something different i guess

 

[green thumbs]

Cool. Always someone out there doing something different i guess

If we all did the same thing and nobody was different on this site we wouldn't have such knowledge people. So Im under the impression you don't do different things because the masses on here aren't doing it
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I Have some samples of V+B that I cant wait to test out for myself, im sure its a great product. The only reason I even brought up the topic of maxi and V+B having CLOSE (NOT THE SAME) ratios is because some people don't want to spend the extra $ on V+B. But for the price maxibloom/grow cant be beat and is available pretty much at every hydro store as where V+B isn't since its still a fairly new product!!

 

[g0dzilla]

If we all did the same thing and nobody was different on this site we wouldn't have such knowledge people. So Im under the impression you don't do different things because the masses on here aren't doing it
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Have some samples of V+B that I cant wait to test out for myself

Lol yes I'm using vb because the masses are... u mad bro? Take a puff and mix up some vb. But make sure your not doing it because the masses are. truly though please post your experience id be interested to hear it

 

[green thumbs]

No bro not mad. Seems you got your panties all bunched up and it's bugging you )!!. Well I congratulate you for following the masses keep up the good work.

 

[g0dzilla]

No bro not mad. Seems you got your panties all bunched up and it's bugging you )!!. Well I congratulate you for following the masses keep up the good work.

Apparently you missed the sarcasm and irony of you picking up samples

 

[green thumbs]

Look im not going to take up space on this thread and argue about sarcasm. PM me if you want to say something.

 

[dansbuds]

Ok .... gonna try it by the directions this time . instead of the way i was taught to feed mj . i just put 6 biesels (same growth structure as SSH cuz its crossed with it ) in flower last night . up till now they were getting 1.3 EC . as of last nights rez fill (18 gallons ) i gave them 1.6 , they'll get this amount till the rez needs filling ... prob 4 days . then i'll up it to 2.0 for the first 4 weeks of flower & drop it from there till the flush .

i have 11 girls in the tray next to them at 35 days , their getting fed the boost dose now of 2.0 for the next 10 days then i'll drop the doses every rez fill till they get flushed . i'm really curious as to if its the strain or my feed methods . rives is having good results following they're schedule ... so i guess we'll see

 

[Tyga]

Make sure to report on the results!

 

[g0dzilla]

Ok .... gonna try it by the directions this time . instead of the way i was taught to feed mj . i just put 6 biesels (same growth structure as SSH cuz its crossed with it ) in flower last night . up till now they were getting 1.3 EC . as of last nights rez fill (18 gallons ) i gave them 1.6 , they'll get this amount till the rez needs filling ... prob 4 days . then i'll up it to 2.0 for the first 4 weeks of flower & drop it from there till the flush .

i have 11 girls in the tray next to them at 35 days , their getting fed the boost dose now of 2.0 for the next 10 days then i'll drop the doses every rez fill till they get flushed . i'm really curious as to if its the strain or my feed methods . rives is having good results following they're schedule ... so i guess we'll see

I'm at a similar point. Day 29 at 1.6 ec. I might push 1.8-2 ec near day 35 but i have seen no burn or deficiency so I'm questioning the need to push the limits. 7l pots coco dtw feeding 5x per day.
I should also add this is 5 different strains

 

[dansbuds]

The only ones effected the last 2 rounds were the SSH , the 3 strains of Pumas gear i had going did great . so i'm leaning towards the strain being finiky not the feeds , but we'll see with the Biesels cuz they're so damn close to the SSH if it is the strain .... then these will be effected too . the 11 of DG's girls that are @35 days are heavy feeders so i doubt i'll have any problems with them ... but again .... we'll see .

tyga .... i defenatly will

 

[YosemiteSam]

Yeah i see what he did but truly saying that maxigrow is similar enough to v+b that plants wouldn't notice a difference. Now I'm not sure that is true. Again the ratios ARE different and i wouldn't use maxi grow from start to finish. Maxi bloom is the better option. Just ask the kiss folks.

The biggest difference is not the NPK ratios. The huge advantage of V + B is the Ca:Mg ratio not found in other bottled nutes...and I believe it is a huge advantage, far more important than particular NPK. The tradeoff appears to me to be a lot of SO4...which combined with the big amount of Ca causes mixi ng problems if you are not careful.

Two very different formulas in my opinion.

 

[Cannabloomer]

Hmm after reading through this thead its got me excited, ive got a buddy using the maxibloom in a waterfarm and its looking awesome, but the results im seeing here got me going crazy to start another bloom cab and use the v+b. i have samples just laying around. if i didnt veg the plants with it(i used low dose of grow,mirco,bloom by humboldt nutrients) they are about a foot tall . Do you think they would stress flipping to the veg+bloom after a week or so flush?

 

[TheBioMaster]

You can switch to V+B with no problems, I would not even worry about extensive flushing....just flush out your tanks and refill using V+B.....your plants will thank you as opposed to showing stress!!

I have a friend that veg's using the Dyna-Gro Bloom formula, and then switches to V+B during transition periods and for flowering......he has a very nice feed system down and it works VERY well for him......

Speaking of people carrying it, cheaphydroponics(dot)com now stocks v+B and this place has super good deals!! FYI

 

[PetFlora]

You can switch to V+B with no problems, I would not even worry about extensive flushing....just flush out your tanks and refill using V+B.....your plants will thank you as opposed to showing stress!!

I have a friend that veg's using the Dyna-Gro Bloom formula, and then switches to V+B during transition periods and for flowering......he has a very nice feed system down and it works VERY well for him......

Speaking of people carrying it, cheaphydroponics(dot)com now stocks v+B and this place has super good deals!! FYI

Yep takes good care of me. I alerted him to V+B when I switched

 

[Cannabloomer]

You can switch to V+B with no problems, I would not even worry about extensive flushing....just flush out your tanks and refill using V+B.....your plants will thank you as opposed to showing stress!!

I have a friend that veg's using the Dyna-Gro Bloom formula, and then switches to V+B during transition periods and for flowering......he has a very nice feed system down and it works VERY well for him......

Speaking of people carrying it, cheaphydroponics(dot)com now stocks v+B and this place has super good deals!! FYI

Thank you, also thats funny cause i usually use dyna gro for veg just was letting gf try something else this run

 

[Desert Hydro]

hey guys! ive been sitting on a sample of v+b for a couple months and just decided to give it a try in my veg tent. im running coco and a 4' 8bulb t5 unit. this is my first t5 and man are they warm! i cant seal my tent and run my co2 because it gets in the 90's with all 8 bulbs on lol.

anyways, what ppm's should i be running for veg? i went with the directed 1/4 tsp and with drip clean and rapid start my ppms only hit 345ppm. i added about 1/2-3/4 teaspoon more to my 10 gal of nutes to bump it up a bit. i havent checked the ppms yet. i saw all the talk about the ppm and ec conversion and i am unfamiliar with all that. i have a hanna 3 way meter. the ph meter on it is bad but i think the others are fine.

 

[ekomsi]

Hey Desert Hydro, the EC is the same across the board with different meters Everyone should use and talk EC, the ppm vaule is different from meter to meter from diferent brands they are either .5xEC=ppm or .7xEC=ppm based on the brand of your meter, I believe that hana is .5 conversion so say your EC=1.6 then the ppm=800ppm

I had the same meter and the ph probe broke instead of getting a new one I went with the blue lab guardian meter, I love it, its constant read so not very good at checking rezs at different loactions around the grow, but much better then any pen I have used.

Its weired that the T5 runs hot? Mine runs really cool I have an 4ft 8 bulb and 4ft 4 bulb and they are cooler then a single 600W imo.

 

[netprophet]

go with EC, keeps it simple. I found on my last run that one of my girls wouldn't take over 1.4 without burning, the other wanted 1.9-2 all day. I'm running 1.8 on these and they are loving it.

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