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any kiss users have exp. with veg+bloom
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Thanks nug size police. Back to topic and nutes
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ekomsi
this thread is turning into the gsc thread I cant stay away lol
netprophet
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good idea. I'll try to get a hold of the GSC cut and blow it up with the veg+bloom, that's whats up
california love
california love
Word up! GSC brings back the highschool memories as far as drama goes haha.
netprophet
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high school... miss some of that shit tho, especially the weekends haha
took down the other half of my room, Trainwreck OG , shit is fire fuel from hell, cannot wait to pack some bowls of this, gonna get some friends high as fuck for sure, cannot say it enough VEG+BLOOM for the KILL
took down the other half of my room, Trainwreck OG , shit is fire fuel from hell, cannot wait to pack some bowls of this, gonna get some friends high as fuck for sure, cannot say it enough VEG+BLOOM for the KILL
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Those plants don't look like they were flushed at all...
It seems to be real easy to get carried away with holding the feed rate too high for too long with this. On my first run, I started dropping the strength on the 29th day because I couldn't bring myself do what the feeding instructions call for, which is to start lowering it at the start of the 4th week. It turned out fine, but I didn't think that the plants were ever going to start losing color!
netprophet
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I topped my rez for the last 10 days with straight RO so hope it qualifies as flushed. I ran .3 ec for like the last 5 days. Think it's cool? The buds are super sticky and stanky and smell righteous.
So you dropped it one day later? What levels did you run until flushing how many weeks did the strain go?
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I've been flushing this last round for 10 days @ 100ppm (12ppm RO ) & i've got plenty of yellowing .... not a complete yellowing but you can tell the plants have been feeding off themselves . i started harvesting last night but i still have 12 plants in the tray . i'll try to get pics tonight so ya can see what i'm talking about . but with coco i never need more than 10 days or so to get the plants to feed off themselves . right after the 4th & 5th week of 1000pmm feeds is when i start to lower doses 750 for a few days then 500 then 250 ..... then the 100ppm flush feedings .
No, I dropped it 7 days later. The online directions call for the highest level of nutrients for the first 21 days (weeks 1-3), then start scaling back in weeks 4-6, and then either minimal nutrients in week 7 and flushing in 8 or flushing in 7 & 8 depending on the medium.
I used an EC of 1.5-1.6 for the first 4 weeks, 1.2 for the 5th week, .8 for the 6th, .6 for the 7th (I was just diluting down by adding straight water during these two weeks), and .1 for the 8th thru harvest at 9.5 weeks. The plants were still considerably greener than I would have expected, but the smoke was some of the smoothest that I have had almost immediately after drying.
The pictures below are a group shot one week before harvest (I don't have one any closer), and one plant after trimming.
Thanks rives exactly the info i was looking for.
Rives .... i've been feeding the traditional way where you give the boost @ weeks 5 & 6 (day 35 to 45 ) then dropping off . have you tried it that way ? do you find its better going by the directions & feeding heavy up to 21 days then dropping off ??? just curios if you've done both ways or not & if theres a difference . I've noticed that something is happening around my boost time that the fattening of the buds seem to slow down on my last 2 runs . i'm wondering if its because i'm feeding tradionally instead of like your schedule . either way .... this next round i'm trying it like you do . their feed schedule kinda goes against everything i've learned about how the plant feeds & when . but maybe i'm missunderstanding something .
Do you blast them with 1.5 as soon as you put them into flower or work up to 1.5 over a week or so ?
thanx for your info here brother !!!
tenthirty
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My water was coming out of the tap at .6 EC last week.
Ouch!!
I think that's funny as hell, Dan. I've just started 12/12 on a new run and have been seriously considering using your method - I copied down your schedule from another thread and have been chewing it over! The run above is the first time that I've used the V+B. Though it goes counter to my nature, I thought that I would at least try it like the directions state the first time (or at least close....
). I had asked BioMaster about the two approaches because he had talked about using it the way that you are doing vs following the directions, and as I recall he didn't give much of a reason for the change in philosophy, just something to the effect that traditional methods aren't necessarily what is best for the plant, but have just evolved to something that everyone is comfortable with.
As far as increasing the EC for flower, the first run I started way too low, was getting some def's, and was slowly building it up over time. When I made the jump it was from about 1.1 to 1.5.
This time, I am running a variety that likes to be fed more, and from the initial transplant from beer cups into 3 gallon airpots, I fed at 1.0. for 2 weeks (was using .8 while in cups). Then kicked it up to 1.2 for 12 days, and just went to 1.4 3 days ago. Today is the first day of 12/12, and in a couple of days I'll take it up to 1.6.
If you didn't notice any problems with the girls by going with their directions ... i'd say stay that route . cuz i'm noticing a slow down during the boost period ... not really sure why when i feel it should be opposite . but i'm wondering if it could be the feed schedule .not seeing any nute burn during the boost & haven't gone above 1000 ppm's this round ... so i'm not sure . i'm gonna try it your (their ) way this next round to see if it happens again . It could also be this finicky strain (SSH )too so not really sure .The puma gear i had on the other side of my room got the same feeds & did fantastic . gonna run the SSH again this round with the different feed schedule so we'll see . i've got 11 of DG's girls (2 strains ) which are heavy feeders in the other side right now @ 5 weeks & just started feeding them 1050 a few days ago so i'll see if it happens to them .
i'll let ya know in a couple months
thanx for the Info Rives
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I haven't noticed any def's yet .... just the slow down during the boost on my SSH . my veg & clones are takin off like gang busters . clones get 250 to 350 & veg gets 450 to 750 depending on how long they're in veg . & 750 is what i start flower with .
but it looks like thats changing for me . gonna try Rives feed schedule to see if its the strain (ssh ) or the feeds .
Its formulation seems to be different than most nutes , they're directions seem to go against most nute schedules . they want you to slam the plants with heavy feeds the first 3 weeks of flower & taper off from there . which i didn't do . i fed like most nutrients & worked up from day 1 till the boost at 35 days then tapered off .
i'm no chemist & can't give you detailed explanations as to why .... but maybe Bio master will chime in & help us out with that . he seems to know his shit .
but it looks like thats changing for me . gonna try Rives feed schedule to see if its the strain (ssh ) or the feeds .
Its formulation seems to be different than most nutes , they're directions seem to go against most nute schedules . they want you to slam the plants with heavy feeds the first 3 weeks of flower & taper off from there . which i didn't do . i fed like most nutrients & worked up from day 1 till the boost at 35 days then tapered off .
i'm no chemist & can't give you detailed explanations as to why .... but maybe Bio master will chime in & help us out with that . he seems to know his shit .
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