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Another school shooting

Zeez

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Yeah, I could tell he wasn't a Trailer Park Boys fan either when he got the big fuck off. The Shithawk was circling.

Y'know the thing with Jim was not unlike the school shooter. He did come in guns blazing and even said that he had guns in a somewhat 2nd amendment but threatening way. Nobody bullied him or antagonized him. More irony, a few of the people he attacked were people that I perceived as somewhat conservative.
 

shithawk420

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Yeah, I could tell he wasn't a Trailer Park Boys fan either when he got the big fuck off. The Shithawk was circling.

Y'know the thing with Jim was not unlike the school shooter. He did come in guns blazing and even said that he had guns in a somewhat 2nd amendment but threatening way. Nobody bullied him or antagonized him. More irony, a few of the people he attacked were people that I perceived as somewhat conservative.
The shithawks were watching him and he got shit on and he got dragged off to the big shitnest.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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Gentlemen please!...

The toilet humour has a time and a place.....(I'll be right back, just dropping the kids off at the pool)....etc.
 
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Pinnate

State-sanctioned murder is still murder, BTW...and it's always murder in cold blood...and fully premeditated...
 

CaptainDankness

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State-sanctioned murder is still murder, BTW...and it's always murder in cold blood...and fully premeditated...

While I agree with everything you stated, I also believe it is justified to murder a vicious animal....

Of course I did murder a dog in cold blood premeditated for trying to attack my daughter and I would do it again with no remorse whatsoever. :tiphat:

It's like saying Osama Bin Laden didn't have it coming. Of course he did!! Lol, some people just need to be put down like dogs, sad, sad, but too fucking bad, 'Murrica!! :biggrin:
 

Zeez

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Gentlemen please!...

The toilet humour has a time and a place.....(I'll be right back, just dropping the kids off at the pool)....etc.

Just trying to lighten it up after something that is pretty sad. A little dip below our usual high standards. No disrespect intended. You really did go the extra mile on that one and there was plenty of warning. Well done.

Babba really swooped in out of nowhere. It was mythical.
 

brown_thumb

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As insecure as many adults can be, elementary and middle school, even high school, is a place of social niche-finding. Sorting cliques and membership. Who's cool and who's not. Self-consciousness reigns supreme.

For kids who are truly tormented, every day , waking up, having to go to school, knowing that there -will- be multiple persons (like a wolf pack feeding) haranguing, mocking, tormenting, bullying, demeaning, etc. 5 days a week on regular weeks.

There's kids who kill themselves over such stuff.

It's not light teasing in many cases; it's seemingly inescapable torture of sorts that has the kid feeling trapped and hopeless..

The boy who tried to break my older son's arm in the door (that wasn't his only effort) had been held back, and despite violent behavior, was still in a mainstream classroom on a behavioral plan for anger and aggression.

I had a good relationship with the principal there.

When the issue occurred with the kid trying to break my son's arm, I had a frank talk with him on the phone. I told him that as a former licensed MH clinician, I didn't give a flying fuck what the kid's issues were, that a kid with that sort of propensity didn't belong in a mainstream classroom where other kids were at risk by his presence, and that we were now talking about a fairly serous assault. Potentially a felony, and at least a decent misdemeanor.

I told him that either he had a serious talk with the kid and the parents, or I was coming to the school myself, dealing with the kid in question, then heading to the kid's house to deal with the parents/father in a more than assertive manner.

But that kid wasn't the only source of torment for my soft-hearted son. There were daily issues with others. The whole process of identifying the beta wolves among the pack results in someone being the target. My son was it for what was probably a 5-7 year period.

I came to hate parents who thought such behavior was cute, or a mark of their child's toughness/machismo. Parents who themselves never grew up, and gave atta'boys to such kids, who, in many cases, were a reflection of their parents' values, or at least their willingness to tolerate such things.

My kids were already occasionally cut off from friends by their friends' parents, due to their parents' views of my activism; years of pursuing legalization, or other issues. Small-mindedness that kept some of their friends from being able to play at our home.

I think it's difficult for folks who haven't witnessed that kind of torment to understand the toll it takes on young persons.

I pulled my son out of public schools because the teachers, counselors, and principles were too ignorant/untrained, uncaring, and lazy to deal with the bullies. After all, dealing with student harassment and violence takes time, courage, compassion, and effort.
 

brown_thumb

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Are you religious, CD?

Are you?

Exodus 21:12-32

v.12: This first section concerns blows that might kill a man, whether or not there was any intention to kill. The laws that follow are clearly intended to establish the principle of the sanctity of human life and so the seriousness of offenses by which life is taken. [Cassuto, 269] What follows is a working out not only of the sixth commandment but of the fundamental principle first articulated in Gen. 9:6: “Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man.”

I'm agnostic, BTW.
 
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I consider myself atheist ─ I don't think I've ever really believed in anything outside of nature...
 

vta

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That stat includes kids shooting BB guns, domestic violence across the street from schools, accidental discharges, shootings off school hours etc. But they try to make it out as if 22 times someone has bum rushed a school guns blazing.

Once again...not a single law would of prevented this horrific act.


Another shooting at a school yesterday, no doubt it will be added to that '22' now '23' list.


Two San Antonio, Texas, men who are licensed to carry a firearm opened fire on a man who appeared to be repeatedly running over a woman, police officers stated. The woman later died from her injuries.


San Antonio Police Department Sergeant David Renn told reporters that officers arrested 89-year-old John Bogard after he allegedly ran over a woman and repeatedly backed up and drove over her again, the San Antonio Express-News reported. The incident occurred in the parking lot of an elementary school on Saturday afternoon. The school is located on the city’s near northwest side. School officials said there were no activities at the school on that Saturday afternoon.

“He was apparently driving over her, backing up, driving over her, backing up,” Renn told reporters.

Two witnesses to the event pulled firearms they are licensed by the state to carry and shot at Bogard’s Ford Fusion forcing him to flee the scene. One of the men shot Bogard’s front tire — flattening the tire — but he was still able to flee.

The victim, whose name has not been released, is reported to be a transient. Witnesses said she was walking away from a home where Bogard allows transients to stay at the house.

The woman died at the scene from her injuries, Sgt. Renn reported.

Windcrest Police Department officers had an idea where to look for Bogard and found his car a few hours later about one mile away from the original incident.

Investigators said Bogard went to the house and got in an argument with the woman. Renn said there were several witnesses, including the woman’s husband.

Both men who fired at Bogard’s vehicle are licensed in Texas to carry a firearm openly or concealed. Police are treating the men as witnesses to the crime, officials stated.

Texas law allows the use of deadly force to protect one’s life or the life of others.
 

theJointedOne

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You cant compare big cities gun crime to school shootings..

adults involved in crime should expect a level of violence associated with their choice of industry

innocent kids are in school
 

CaptainDankness

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You cant compare big cities gun crime to school shootings..

adults involved in crime should expect a level of violence associated with their choice of industry

innocent kids are in school

Yeah, it's different, but when you have people talking about banning guns for law abiding citizens it makes perfect sense to bring up criminals with illegally obtained firearms. They also don't just kill criminals.

I think if it wasn't for the anti gunners we'd actually have a solution. Armed guards do sound perfect, not many crazies hit places with armed guards.
 

Zeez

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except that school that just got hit up, which had security and armed guards


this was interesting https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...fantasy/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a751d4d8d8b3

This is very true. Good article.

The company line is brought to you by the NRA who really works for the gun manufacturers. Arming teachers or armed school security guards sells more guns for them. Fear sells more guns too. They tell people that any type of regulation or background checks are taking away 2nd amendment rights. In fact law abiding citizens should have no worries about showing their credentials fo gun ownership. Some sort of regulation actually helps assure that all guns will not be taken away from people responsible enough to own them in the future.
 

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