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Another Crappy Day in Paradise..... Do it Again.
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You got lucky brother.
Seems none of the people that are paid to enforce the law, bothers to actually read it.
"you may name an adult (18 years or older) to be your caregiver and who is willing to grow medical marijuana on your behalf. This individual cannot be a caregiver for anyone else at the same time.
However, Act 241, eliminates the ability of a caregiver to grow medical marijuana on behalf of a qualifying patient after December 31, 2018, unless the patient is either a minor/adult lacking legal capacity or resides on an island that does not have a dispensary.
Here's the actual letter of the law;
"
One caregiver per patient; one patient per caregiver.
One grow site per registered patient.
No more than 7 marijuana plants, jointly between a registered patient and caregiver (ALL plants must be tagged).
No more than 4 ounces of usable marijuana, jointly between a registered patient and caregiver.
Do not use medical marijuana in a way that endangers the health or well-being of another person.
Do not use medical marijuana for purposes other than medical use as permitted by law.
Do not use medical marijuana in any moving vehicle, at any work place, on any school grounds, or in any other public place (including public parks, beaches, recreation centers).
Put a tag or other identification maker with the 329 Card Number AND Expiration Date at the base of every medical marijuana plant so they can be more easily identified as legal. In the recently approved DOH Administrative Rules, “the person who has been designated to cultivate marijuana shall have a legible identification tag on each marijuana plant being cultivated for the qualifying patient”. All plants must be tagged accordingly. Read Tagging Guidelines.
Renew your Registration Card Annually
Renew up to 60 days before expiration to avoid lapse in protection".
The new law will make it very difficult to be a caregiver.
And here's the part that really frosts my balls;
"No more than 7 marijuana plants, jointly between a registered patient and caregiver (ALL plants must be tagged).
No more than 4 ounces of usable marijuana, jointly between a registered patient and caregiver.
The old rules allowed 14 plants, and 6 ounces of bud, per site.
7 for the patient, 7 for the caregiver and 6 ounces between them.
Looks like you skated, on this one. Lets hope those bozos stay ignorant.
Because;
"On July 6, 2015, Governor David Ige approved the adoption of the DOH’s Chapter 11-160, Hawaii Administrative Rules (HAR), entitled “Medical Use of Marijuana” which became effective on July 18, 2015. Chapter 11-160, HAR, is now effective – all interested parties, patients and caregivers are advised to read through the new rules as ignorance of the law is not an acceptable defense for violating it.
Don't shoot the messenger, just tryin to keep people I care about out of jail.
Aloha nui y'all
Wee
Seems none of the people that are paid to enforce the law, bothers to actually read it.
"you may name an adult (18 years or older) to be your caregiver and who is willing to grow medical marijuana on your behalf. This individual cannot be a caregiver for anyone else at the same time.
However, Act 241, eliminates the ability of a caregiver to grow medical marijuana on behalf of a qualifying patient after December 31, 2018, unless the patient is either a minor/adult lacking legal capacity or resides on an island that does not have a dispensary.
Here's the actual letter of the law;
"
One caregiver per patient; one patient per caregiver.
One grow site per registered patient.
No more than 7 marijuana plants, jointly between a registered patient and caregiver (ALL plants must be tagged).
No more than 4 ounces of usable marijuana, jointly between a registered patient and caregiver.
Do not use medical marijuana in a way that endangers the health or well-being of another person.
Do not use medical marijuana for purposes other than medical use as permitted by law.
Do not use medical marijuana in any moving vehicle, at any work place, on any school grounds, or in any other public place (including public parks, beaches, recreation centers).
Put a tag or other identification maker with the 329 Card Number AND Expiration Date at the base of every medical marijuana plant so they can be more easily identified as legal. In the recently approved DOH Administrative Rules, “the person who has been designated to cultivate marijuana shall have a legible identification tag on each marijuana plant being cultivated for the qualifying patient”. All plants must be tagged accordingly. Read Tagging Guidelines.
Renew your Registration Card Annually
Renew up to 60 days before expiration to avoid lapse in protection".
The new law will make it very difficult to be a caregiver.
And here's the part that really frosts my balls;
"No more than 7 marijuana plants, jointly between a registered patient and caregiver (ALL plants must be tagged).
No more than 4 ounces of usable marijuana, jointly between a registered patient and caregiver.
The old rules allowed 14 plants, and 6 ounces of bud, per site.
7 for the patient, 7 for the caregiver and 6 ounces between them.
Looks like you skated, on this one. Lets hope those bozos stay ignorant.
Because;
"On July 6, 2015, Governor David Ige approved the adoption of the DOH’s Chapter 11-160, Hawaii Administrative Rules (HAR), entitled “Medical Use of Marijuana” which became effective on July 18, 2015. Chapter 11-160, HAR, is now effective – all interested parties, patients and caregivers are advised to read through the new rules as ignorance of the law is not an acceptable defense for violating it.
Don't shoot the messenger, just tryin to keep people I care about out of jail.
Aloha nui y'all
Wee
Pfffftttt........
Pfffftttt........
Oh boy.... I ain't ready for this.....discussion.
And I could be wrong, that has been known to happen. But first ask Grey who is gonna win that sawbuck.
Weez.....Your actual "letter" of the law part does not take effect until 2018. Under current law, Hup is all good. He could, in theory, add another patient and grow 28. He can do it next year. And the one after that too. The train won't derail until 2019.
That's when some 2000, give or take, what do we call them now? Patients? Caregivers? whatever, the guys we grow for, well, just about all of them get chucked under the bus. Sure, we can grow for them, but we just can't grow any extra plants for them.
So, why would we? Maybe a situation where they have land but no ability, and you have ability but no land, then maybe something could be worked out, but in the big picture, almost every patient we grow for now, come three and years better be ready to go down to your friendly neighborhood dispensary and have some cash in hand.
So, come 2019, all those fuckers that whine at us each month, can either say goodbye to their free trip......
or
they can just move right in with us.
Huh?
You heard me. After 2018 it will all hinge on where you live. If there are four people living at an address, each a "registered patient" and each of them can grow 7, well there are your 28. And residency is an easy thing to show, but a slippery thing to disprove. A fake lease should do the trick. If cops come and you need to call, fine, your "tenants" should know the drill.
But that is still aways away. Have any of you told your patients that come 2019 they are on their own?
No? Then you should. When I told mine, now all of a sudden he wants to testify next session to put a face on the people they are tossing under the bus. Figure if 2000 new, unhappy, soon to be forced dispensary customers (AKA voters) testify to allow us to keep the caregiver status they may get the message.
If not they can live here.
Hup.... glad to hear it all went well. Thanks for confirming their existence. Now dish the full story.
Weez..... you could be right. But I have looked and have yet to see a limit on the number of plants at one TMK. Either way, I wouldn't dream of shooting the messenger.
Arthritis.... my call is you are doing the exact same thing as me. Your at the limit. Unless you want roomates.
Jack.... You da man!
I cracked up and blew coffee all over the screen. Love your Skunkdog,..... but I don't think it is the real one. And don't feel bad about being the red pen guy. That mistake and countless others should have been caught by my editor, who, unfortunately, does not exist. Bummer.
Other shit has happened, I got me the name of our little ripoff, most everything has been taken and trimmed, everything has been replanted, yada, yada, yada, who gives a dried up turd? Tell you more latter, gotta crash now.
Pfffftttt........
Oh boy.... I ain't ready for this.....discussion.
And I could be wrong, that has been known to happen. But first ask Grey who is gonna win that sawbuck.
Weez.....Your actual "letter" of the law part does not take effect until 2018. Under current law, Hup is all good. He could, in theory, add another patient and grow 28. He can do it next year. And the one after that too. The train won't derail until 2019.
That's when some 2000, give or take, what do we call them now? Patients? Caregivers? whatever, the guys we grow for, well, just about all of them get chucked under the bus. Sure, we can grow for them, but we just can't grow any extra plants for them.
So, why would we? Maybe a situation where they have land but no ability, and you have ability but no land, then maybe something could be worked out, but in the big picture, almost every patient we grow for now, come three and years better be ready to go down to your friendly neighborhood dispensary and have some cash in hand.
So, come 2019, all those fuckers that whine at us each month, can either say goodbye to their free trip......
or
they can just move right in with us.
Huh?
You heard me. After 2018 it will all hinge on where you live. If there are four people living at an address, each a "registered patient" and each of them can grow 7, well there are your 28. And residency is an easy thing to show, but a slippery thing to disprove. A fake lease should do the trick. If cops come and you need to call, fine, your "tenants" should know the drill.
But that is still aways away. Have any of you told your patients that come 2019 they are on their own?
No? Then you should. When I told mine, now all of a sudden he wants to testify next session to put a face on the people they are tossing under the bus. Figure if 2000 new, unhappy, soon to be forced dispensary customers (AKA voters) testify to allow us to keep the caregiver status they may get the message.
If not they can live here.
Hup.... glad to hear it all went well. Thanks for confirming their existence. Now dish the full story.
Weez..... you could be right. But I have looked and have yet to see a limit on the number of plants at one TMK. Either way, I wouldn't dream of shooting the messenger.
Arthritis.... my call is you are doing the exact same thing as me. Your at the limit. Unless you want roomates.
Jack.... You da man!
I cracked up and blew coffee all over the screen. Love your Skunkdog,..... but I don't think it is the real one. And don't feel bad about being the red pen guy. That mistake and countless others should have been caught by my editor, who, unfortunately, does not exist. Bummer.
Other shit has happened, I got me the name of our little ripoff, most everything has been taken and trimmed, everything has been replanted, yada, yada, yada, who gives a dried up turd? Tell you more latter, gotta crash now.
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I had to go to Hilo PO and saw a silver bird landing with the boys inside. Were the pics ok to see if I have the real or fake Skunkdawg?
Well, here the part that worries me;
""On July 6, 2015, Governor David Ige approved the adoption of the DOH’s Chapter 11-160, Hawaii Administrative Rules (HAR), entitled “Medical Use of Marijuana” which became effective on July 18, 2015. Chapter 11-160, HAR, is now effective –
Says they will honor the old rec until it expires, then they are going to catch some folk flatfooted.
TTYL, gotta go out and put some his n hers labels on the girls.
<grumble, grumble>
BAK
Go ahead call me a pussy, or poultry.
But call me a free pussy.
Been a guest of the state, did not like it.
That, and this is Hawaii, and I am a haole that's too broke to lawyer up.
So now, I read the rules and keep my head down.
But this has me thinking;
"[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]After 2018 it will all hinge on where you live. If there are four people living at an address, each a "registered patient" and each of them can grow 7, well there are your 28."[/FONT]
And hell yes, warn your patients.
They get off their ass, if they have to.
Aloha,
Chicken man.
""On July 6, 2015, Governor David Ige approved the adoption of the DOH’s Chapter 11-160, Hawaii Administrative Rules (HAR), entitled “Medical Use of Marijuana” which became effective on July 18, 2015. Chapter 11-160, HAR, is now effective –
Says they will honor the old rec until it expires, then they are going to catch some folk flatfooted.
TTYL, gotta go out and put some his n hers labels on the girls.
<grumble, grumble>
BAK
Go ahead call me a pussy, or poultry.
But call me a free pussy.
Been a guest of the state, did not like it.
That, and this is Hawaii, and I am a haole that's too broke to lawyer up.
So now, I read the rules and keep my head down.
But this has me thinking;
"[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]After 2018 it will all hinge on where you live. If there are four people living at an address, each a "registered patient" and each of them can grow 7, well there are your 28."[/FONT]
And hell yes, warn your patients.
They get off their ass, if they have to.
Aloha,
Chicken man.
On my bucket for the "Name" story
"one grow site per patient "means you can't have 2 grow sites on one card,not to limit a grow site to one card only
ps Cops were saying the grows in waimea were rained out and moldy...but one grow down h.o.v.e had 12 footers w/4" trunk..(gotta up my game,haven't cracked 10')
ps Cops were saying the grows in waimea were rained out and moldy...but one grow down h.o.v.e had 12 footers w/4" trunk..(gotta up my game,haven't cracked 10')
Surfd...rent greenhouse space to another patient sounds awesome.
Hup..did they go right to plants?do you have veg site inside?like OH says full scoop in detail
Aloha to all and OH let's hook up ASAP .......
Wish someone would jus veg 3 footers ,of all da bes Krazy kine,and no need veg......shooootz
Hup..did they go right to plants?do you have veg site inside?like OH says full scoop in detail
Aloha to all and OH let's hook up ASAP .......
Wish someone would jus veg 3 footers ,of all da bes Krazy kine,and no need veg......shooootz
Only 167k you say lol, eeesh.
So I got a visit from Mr. Scumbag last night. Caught what it seemed like 2 flashlights running up my hill in the backyard. Stopped it that time, changing up my schedule of sleeping an gonna night guard it till I build the roof an get the security gadgets up.
Fun times.
Nice rainy humid over here. Hoping Novembers NOAA report is better then the last few months.
Funny rippers trying to take a first time grower in Hawaii's plants. My ugly ole plants lol.
