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Really ?
Are you talking about fake hate crimes ?
Even the local news channels have reported on the fake hate crimes. . . youtube it, see for yourself
Also, Charlottesville organizer Richard Spencer was staunch supporter of Obama and Occupy Wall Street. . . sounds more like an agent provacateur to me
Koch bros are no friends of liberty
there is real news that validates this
sadly most people do now know how to tell the difference
https://www.historians.org/about-ah...s-propaganda/what-are-the-tools-of-propaganda
I posted legitimate data that was not sensationalized by the news and most people here didn't bother to read it
but most people don't want to do due diligence they rather read something short and poignant that confirms their suspicions which is a tool of propaganda
Since I have been here I have challenged many respected personalities mindsets questioning the validity of their though processes
Notice I NEVER try to sell directly the concept with emotional hooks to sway opinion but rather try to evoke a new way to perceive the same concept through one's own volition not by manipulating adoption of my own
I have use the same methodology with decision makers in IT create lasting business relationships by helping them make informed decisions.
The driver type personalities that get frustrated by it are the worst type of customer because they want to be given a simple decision with no liability in the choice making and they use a lack of due diligence to deny culpability in that decision making if they don't like the outcome. Trump would be a good example of that kind of manipulative business personality.
From the link Weird left above, and there is a lesson to be learned here:
Hitler, Mussolini, and their followers have been industrious mythmakers. The near-deification of Hitler by the Nazis and the technique of mass hypnotism of the Germans are things that we, as a democratic people, find it very difficult to understand.
To us it is incredible that a fanatical, intense, uneducated Munich agitator, unschooled in economics and politics, should be exalted by mass appeals and terroristic tactics into an all-powerful and “infallible” leader, “Der Führer,” who exacts unquestioned obedience from his people.
This “infallibility” that the Nazis have credited to Hitler is bluntly expressed in the words of Robert Ley, the director of the Nazi Labor Front. “Germany must obey like a well-trained soldier,” he said. “The Führer, Adolf Hitler, is always right.”
Why did large sections of the German public come to accept this legend of the Munich agitator? One historian thinks that it was because millions of Germans were yearning for “an end of all thought, will, or action on their own part in the conduct of their own affairs.” The idea of a Führer, he believes, expressed their satisfaction in having found a leader who to them was “a symbol of absolute authority, a Great Father, a patriarch-ruler who can be worshipped as an all-wise Messiah, bringing solace and salvation to his sorely tried children.” Hitler took “all responsibility for their own welfare.” What they had to do was to give him “implicit faith and blind subordination.”
I have perused US FBI crime statistics which do have racial stipulations as to which colour/blend of people are committing what sort of crimes on whom...black on black, black on white, white on black, white on white, with Hispanics mixed in there somewhere, and they do make quite alarming reading, especially amongst the violent crimes. Whether or not these statistics are true or not, I have no idea, and could possibly be just propaganda.
Hitler, Mussolini, and their followers have been industrious mythmakers. The near-deification of Hitler by the Nazis and the technique of mass hypnotism of the Germans are things that we, as a democratic people, find it very difficult to understand.
To us it is incredible that a fanatical, intense, uneducated Munich agitator, unschooled in economics and politics, should be exalted by mass appeals and terroristic tactics into an all-powerful and “infallible” leader, “Der Führer,” who exacts unquestioned obedience from his people.
This “infallibility” that the Nazis have credited to Hitler is bluntly expressed in the words of Robert Ley, the director of the Nazi Labor Front. “Germany must obey like a well-trained soldier,” he said. “The Führer, Adolf Hitler, is always right.”
Why did large sections of the German public come to accept this legend of the Munich agitator? One historian thinks that it was because millions of Germans were yearning for “an end of all thought, will, or action on their own part in the conduct of their own affairs.” The idea of a Führer, he believes, expressed their satisfaction in having found a leader who to them was “a symbol of absolute authority, a Great Father, a patriarch-ruler who can be worshipped as an all-wise Messiah, bringing solace and salvation to his sorely tried children.” Hitler took “all responsibility for their own welfare.” What they had to do was to give him “implicit faith and blind subordination.”
I have perused US FBI crime statistics which do have racial stipulations as to which colour/blend of people are committing what sort of crimes on whom...black on black, black on white, white on black, white on white, with Hispanics mixed in there somewhere, and they do make quite alarming reading, especially amongst the violent crimes. Whether or not these statistics are true or not, I have no idea, and could possibly be just propaganda.
Guess I would have expected to notice a 45 % increase in violence against minorities. . . either observed in environment or in a change in peoples attitudes and actions around me and people I know. . .
cant say I have witnessed either.
But I can say that I have seen a lot of stuff reported in MSM that reeked of bullshit
and SPLC numbers are ridiculous. . . ' Merry Christmas ' and other random statements are deemed hate speech and tallied in their figures. . . they have lost any credibility in most reasonable peoples view
cant say I have witnessed either.
But I can say that I have seen a lot of stuff reported in MSM that reeked of bullshit
and SPLC numbers are ridiculous. . . ' Merry Christmas ' and other random statements are deemed hate speech and tallied in their figures. . . they have lost any credibility in most reasonable peoples view
strong man rule is as old as the human race
the big man at the top, that's how it was done for thousands of years
i believe we are evolutionary wired for this trait
the strong leader in control is a fast decision process
and fast can be decisive in war
St. Phatty
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Compared to Western Governments, they were amateurs.
Yes but fast decisions can also lead to war, if the diplomatic process has not been thoroughly exhausted.
Some leaders seem to want to go to war just to win public approval, even when their nation is not really under any attack from the nation they are attacking.....see Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya etc....etc...etc.
i'm not arguing that the 'strong man' method of leadership is the best
just that we have an evolutionary hard wired response to see the strong leader as normal
for most of our history, war wasn't a question, it was inevitable
if not next month, then next year, war, war, and war
so when i see the support for trump, i understand the need of the people that support trump
it's very primeval, let us hope that civilization triumphs
Yes I understand what you are saying igrowone...
When you think about HUGE armies/military sitting around twiddling their thumbs during peace time that are totally prepped, trained and psych'ed for wartime.....millions of people are caught up in the industrial/military machine and only war seems to make them feel like they have any progress.....not just keeping the peace as it should be.
I am getting seriously pissed off every time I turn on the news and every story is about "regulating" social media and not one idiot in this country stops to think about how dangerous this is to the first amendment and our constitution its all RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA we have to sacrifice our freedom cuz if we dont PUTIN WINS! It's sad and depressing how easy it is to brain wash people just like cattle being driven off a cliff by Native Americans so they can feast on the bodies. So lets consider what we have bee through.
Vietnam war Ton-kin gulf ------FAKE NEWS
Medical students in danger invasion of Grenada ----------- FAKE NEWS
Gulf war Nayirah testimony baby massacre ---------FAKE NEWS "done by crisis actors yes they are real"
WMD Iraq --------FAKE NEWS
Saddam Hussein helping Al Qaeda --------FAKE NEWS
Saddam Hussein connected to 9/11 --------- FAKE NEWS
Bashar Assad of Syria NOT fighting ISIS-------------FAKE NEWS
Bashar Assad helping ISIS ----------------------FAKE NEWS
Bashar Assad used chemical weapons-----------FAKE NEWS "it was Saudi backed Al Qaeda"
White Helmets not Al Qaeda-----------FAKE NEWS YES THEY ARE AL QAEDA
But now we can trust the corporate media and the CIA because they are known for their truth telling skills and truly care about human life and the working class peasants right?? We need to censor the internet and criminalize political speech cuz Russia!! Anyone who has more than two brain cells and analytical thinking skills must be a RUSSIA BOT!!
It was not Russia that hacked the DNC emails! HIS NAME WAS SETH RICH!!!
Vietnam war Ton-kin gulf ------FAKE NEWS
Medical students in danger invasion of Grenada ----------- FAKE NEWS
Gulf war Nayirah testimony baby massacre ---------FAKE NEWS "done by crisis actors yes they are real"
WMD Iraq --------FAKE NEWS
Saddam Hussein helping Al Qaeda --------FAKE NEWS
Saddam Hussein connected to 9/11 --------- FAKE NEWS
Bashar Assad of Syria NOT fighting ISIS-------------FAKE NEWS
Bashar Assad helping ISIS ----------------------FAKE NEWS
Bashar Assad used chemical weapons-----------FAKE NEWS "it was Saudi backed Al Qaeda"
White Helmets not Al Qaeda-----------FAKE NEWS YES THEY ARE AL QAEDA
But now we can trust the corporate media and the CIA because they are known for their truth telling skills and truly care about human life and the working class peasants right?? We need to censor the internet and criminalize political speech cuz Russia!! Anyone who has more than two brain cells and analytical thinking skills must be a RUSSIA BOT!!
It was not Russia that hacked the DNC emails! HIS NAME WAS SETH RICH!!!
You are not alone Bumbatar in the way you are thinking, and that is exactly why the powers that be/deep state wants to have more control over the internet, so that they can sanction dissenting voices, stifling the truth and have more power over what we think by controlling perception via the media...
To be able to enact these 'security measures' they always need a scapegoat to try and justify it, and Russia has been one of their main scapegoats ever since WW2 when the USA went from being a Russian ally to being a Russian enemy all of a sudden.....because they always need an enemy real or contrived to rally the people around using fear tactics while fleecing their pockets of tax dollars and taking their sons and daughters to fight and to be maimed and killed in useless and unnecessary foreign wars just to create wealth for the industrial/military machine.
To be able to enact these 'security measures' they always need a scapegoat to try and justify it, and Russia has been one of their main scapegoats ever since WW2 when the USA went from being a Russian ally to being a Russian enemy all of a sudden.....because they always need an enemy real or contrived to rally the people around using fear tactics while fleecing their pockets of tax dollars and taking their sons and daughters to fight and to be maimed and killed in useless and unnecessary foreign wars just to create wealth for the industrial/military machine.
I am getting seriously pissed off every time I turn on the news and every story is about "regulating" social media and not one idiot in this country stops to think about how dangerous this is to the first amendment and our constitution its all RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA we have to sacrifice our freedom cuz if we dont PUTIN WINS! It's sad and depressing how easy it is to brain wash people just like cattle being driven off a cliff by Native Americans so they can feast on the bodies. So lets consider what we have bee through.
Vietnam war Ton-kin gulf ------FAKE NEWS
Medical students in danger invasion of Grenada ----------- FAKE NEWS
Gulf war Nayirah testimony baby massacre ---------FAKE NEWS "done by crisis actors yes they are real"
WMD Iraq --------FAKE NEWS
Saddam Hussein helping Al Qaeda --------FAKE NEWS
Saddam Hussein connected to 9/11 --------- FAKE NEWS
Bashar Assad of Syria NOT fighting ISIS-------------FAKE NEWS
Bashar Assad helping ISIS ----------------------FAKE NEWS
Bashar Assad used chemical weapons-----------FAKE NEWS "it was Saudi backed Al Qaeda"
White Helmets not Al Qaeda-----------FAKE NEWS YES THEY ARE AL QAEDA
But now we can trust the corporate media and the CIA because they are known for their truth telling skills and truly care about human life and the working class peasants right?? We need to censor the internet and criminalize political speech cuz Russia!! Anyone who has more than two brain cells and analytical thinking skills must be a RUSSIA BOT!!
It was not Russia that hacked the DNC emails! HIS NAME WAS SETH RICH!!!
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Smedley Butler, USMC, "War is a racket"
St. Phatty
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I suggest Admiral James Stockdale's autobiography. He was the senior flyer at the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
His testimony - not a single enemy craft in sight, he & his co-workers were ordered to fire on Open Water.
And then the non-existent aggression was used to justify the murder of 4+ Million civilians in Southeast Asia.
As part of the PR campaign, it was called the "Vietnam War", but it was really the Southeast Asian War.
Obviously the US gov did not give up with their lying.
The US public ate it up during the first Iraq war (false accusations of Iraqi soldiers killing Kuwaiti babies) and the second Iraq war (US companies like Finnigan sold Iraq the tools they needed for a chemical weapons program.)
End result ... US troops simply function as Israel's security guards.
My question is serious. How many americans, in percent, do eat such a typical american breakfast. What do you think? If I stumble down the stairs in the morning, I just can eat a toast or french bun and cigerette and coffee of course.
There's a lot of fat people here.
I had coffee and cannabis.
I'm moving on to vodka and when the dishes are done I will make fried rice for lunch.
Many people are hungry and not many have the means to eat three times a day.
A few spend lots of money at restaurants and never bother to cook at home.
I had coffee and cannabis.
I'm moving on to vodka and when the dishes are done I will make fried rice for lunch.
Many people are hungry and not many have the means to eat three times a day.
A few spend lots of money at restaurants and never bother to cook at home.
Bwanabud
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My question is serious. How many americans, in percent, do eat such a typical american breakfast. What do you think? If I stumble down the stairs in the morning, I just can eat a toast or french bun and cigerette and coffee of course.
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I'll eat a breakfast like that pictured maybe 1 time a year, normally a bagel/muffin and coffee...then my meds, then the day starts.
M
moose eater
In about 1983 I did some research on the average American diet, including differentiation by socio-economic strata as a part of the research.
It was common back then for the better-kept (then more still in existence) 'middle class' to assume that the poor weren't really poor, but rather lazy, based on the propensity for obesity. The reality seemed to be, however, that the reason for obesity among many poor had to do with eating high carb, higher fat diets, much of which tends to be less expensive; white noodles, spuds, etc.
The interesting part of the research (for me) was that even when examining the upper crust in the socio-economic strata, was that the wealthy ALSO tended to eat what could be termed as shitty, unhealthy diets. Marketing? Convenience? What ever? Those who could afford to eat well, still slowly poisoned their bodies with unhealthy bullshit.
We're now 35 years past that point, and I wonder what the data would show?
By the way, even when eating at a restaurant (very rare at our home; typically only when on the road), ordering 3 sources of protein, and fatty protein at that, is pretty unusual in my experience.
However, I admit to having what should've been a lethal addiction to smoked dried sausages that probably should've killed me years ago. So when I head to the bush, expect there to be salami, landjaeger, and more in the way of nitrite/nitrate-laden sources of yummy deathfulness.
Otherwise, breakfast here is often one egg, over medium, on a single slice of unbuttered whole-grain toast. If coconut oil or butter was used to fry the egg, then there's plenty of oils/fats clinging to the egg that will ultimately sit atop the toast anyway...
And now I'm hungry for a late breakfast.... Maybe a hard-boiled egg, piece of whole-grain toast, and a slice of Havarti cheese.
I'll save the tequila and joint of recently acquired Acapulco Gold for mid-afternoon or early evening, mustard. Still getting my body back into some sense of even-keeled calm after the fishing trip to the mountains.. OUCH!!!
Onward!!!
It was common back then for the better-kept (then more still in existence) 'middle class' to assume that the poor weren't really poor, but rather lazy, based on the propensity for obesity. The reality seemed to be, however, that the reason for obesity among many poor had to do with eating high carb, higher fat diets, much of which tends to be less expensive; white noodles, spuds, etc.
The interesting part of the research (for me) was that even when examining the upper crust in the socio-economic strata, was that the wealthy ALSO tended to eat what could be termed as shitty, unhealthy diets. Marketing? Convenience? What ever? Those who could afford to eat well, still slowly poisoned their bodies with unhealthy bullshit.
We're now 35 years past that point, and I wonder what the data would show?
By the way, even when eating at a restaurant (very rare at our home; typically only when on the road), ordering 3 sources of protein, and fatty protein at that, is pretty unusual in my experience.
However, I admit to having what should've been a lethal addiction to smoked dried sausages that probably should've killed me years ago. So when I head to the bush, expect there to be salami, landjaeger, and more in the way of nitrite/nitrate-laden sources of yummy deathfulness.
Otherwise, breakfast here is often one egg, over medium, on a single slice of unbuttered whole-grain toast. If coconut oil or butter was used to fry the egg, then there's plenty of oils/fats clinging to the egg that will ultimately sit atop the toast anyway...
And now I'm hungry for a late breakfast.... Maybe a hard-boiled egg, piece of whole-grain toast, and a slice of Havarti cheese.
I'll save the tequila and joint of recently acquired Acapulco Gold for mid-afternoon or early evening, mustard. Still getting my body back into some sense of even-keeled calm after the fishing trip to the mountains.. OUCH!!!
Onward!!!
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