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Alec Baldwin to be charged with involuntary manslaughter over “Rust” death

iTarzan

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Your county is not every rural community.

You are dodging the fact that your made up statistic is false.
No you are using twisted, spin doctor statistics. It is one of the democrats favorite tactics.

There is more gun violence in urban cities when you remove suicides from the statistics. Rural area gun violence is mostly suicides. Nationally suicides are 2/3 of all gun deaths. Rural gun violence is 28% higher than urban. Most let's just say 90% of rural gun deaths are suicide.
General math now being used. NOT EXACT. If Urban is 28% higher it would be roughly 35% of gun deaths are urban and 65% are rural. That is 30% higher. So.. Rural are mostly suicides. 90% If national suicides are 66% that means almost none of the urban gun deaths are suicides.
In conclusion guns lead to suicides in rural areas. In urban areas guns can lead to people getting murdered.

Many people in the cities don't have guns because they are democrats and only want criminals to have guns. They can't use a gun to commit suicide because they don't like guns. So they jump off buildings, train tracks, poison and OD on drugs. Rural people have guns and take a more humane approach.
 
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gypsyeyes

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Not everybody knows about gun safety. A lot of people have never seen a gun in person, much less held one in their hands.
Pretty much all places that license guns requires a gun safety class. In fact, didn't he take one? To function, the tool needs to be enabled, it didn't do it by itself. There is no excuse for being so irresponsible. Book 'em, Danno!
 

gypsyeyes

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And that's part of the problem- Hollywood and it's mis-portrayal. And the ignorant people who know nothing about guns living in the urban areas voting and making laws for the rural folk who actually use guns as tools and self defense if need be.
 

Jellyfish

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Alec Baldwin has "probably shot a gun more than most casual gun owners" because of his 'acting job'? Is that what you're really trying to say?

Jellyfish: Not everybody knows about gun safety. A lot of people have never seen a gun in person, much less held one in their hands.

Three Berries: No Baldwin though. He's probably shot a gun more than most casual gun owners.

Jellyfish: Based on what?

Three Berries: His acting job.
 

Jellyfish

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Pretty much all places that license guns requires a gun safety class. In fact, didn't he take one? To function, the tool needs to be enabled, it didn't do it by itself. There is no excuse for being so irresponsible. Book 'em, Danno!
I'm sure he took a gun safety class. I was disagreeing with someone who said 'everybody knows'.

I don't think anybody's saying Alec Baldwin isn't responsible to some degree. It's to what degree, and there's a lot of people that want an 'eye for an eye' in this deal, and some of it is just based on hating Alec Baldwin.
 

armedoldhippy

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'm sure he took a gun safety class. I was disagreeing with someone who said 'everybody knows'.
i took hunters ed here with my kids. decent safety part. it was nearly all common sense, which is why "everybody knows" is so laughable. i'm not sure anymore, after digging deeper, that he's guilty of anything but stupidity for pointing actually AT someone instead of "close enough for the camera". that's just asking for a problem. in many cases, being "stupid" brings liability. not often enough in my opinion...
 

Three Berries

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Your county is not every rural community.

You are dodging the fact that your made up statistic is false.
My county is just the best I guess. Sure isn't a Dem shithole. It would take 20 years to have as much gun involved violence as one weekend in Chitacgo.

Your problem and all the other gun control freaks is you think the gun is the problem when it is a mental health issue,
 

Three Berries

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Alec Baldwin has "probably shot a gun more than most casual gun owners" because of his 'acting job'? Is that what you're really trying to say?
No excuse for him handling one and not knowing it wasn't loaded. It was part of his job.

 

Jellyfish

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No excuse for him handling one and not knowing it wasn't loaded. It was part of his job.

I never said or even inferred that at all. Tone matters, and I don't know you for shit and you don't know me. Phrases like 'Dem shithole' and 'gun control freaks' and 'Chitcago' (clever), aren't exactly opening minds and hearts to want to engage with you.
 

Three Berries

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I never said or even inferred that at all. Tone matters, and I don't know you for shit and you don't know me. Phrases like 'Dem shithole' and 'gun control freaks' and 'Chitcago' (clever), aren't exactly opening minds and hearts to want to engage with you.
Too bad. Guns are not the problem. Society is, and it is just geographically concentrated parts of society. Gun Violence is an idiotic statement. Gun control only affects honest people. The criminals don't care.
 

Jellyfish

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Then you're a silly billy who probably shouldn't have a gun. Plus every post you make just drips of your own anger. Anger and guns, they really go together, eh?
 

mean mr.mustard

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My county is just the best I guess. Sure isn't a Dem shithole. It would take 20 years to have as much gun involved violence as one weekend in Chitacgo.

Your problem and all the other gun control freaks is you think the gun is the problem when it is a mental health issue,

Again your assumptions are misplaced.

I don't think that the gun is the problem.

You should probably read and ask more than you assume and make shit up.
 

Three Berries

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Again your assumptions are misplaced.

I don't think that the gun is the problem.

You should probably read and ask more than you assume and make shit up.
Yes Guns are NOT the problem. I would wager every house in my neighborhood has at least one gun. If you hear shooting it is unusual and usually someone practicing. Not the case in the DEM run cities where is sounds like popcorn at night.

Deny it>>>>>> https://heyjackass.com/

Week in Progress (2/19 – 2/25)
Shot & Killed: 8
Shot & Wounded: 11
Total Shot: 19
Total Homicides: 8
Chicago Crime 2023
 

Three Berries

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Great plan.

Let's get you to work.
Almost all these shootings are illegal guns or illegal gun possession. The entire city government has bee Dem controlled for the last century, since Al Capone.

Illinois new law.

Illinois 'Safe-T' Act Non-Detainable Offenses​

  1. Aggravated Battery
  2. Aggravated DUI
  3. Aggravated Fleeing
  4. Arson
  5. Burglary
  6. Drug-Induced Homicide
  7. Intimidation
  8. Kidnapping
  9. Robbery
  10. 2nd-Degree Murder
  11. Threatening a Public Official


Read More: Illinois Safe-T Act | https://97zokonline.com/illinois-safe-t-act/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral
 

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