I was referring to dogzter's term, but then was asked to define it.
I certainly don't consider guns autonomous... but some P320 owners might.
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I was referring to dogzter's term, but then was asked to define it.
I certainly don't consider guns autonomous... but some P320 owners might.
I suspect his firearm experience is relegated to video games,Google and msnbc.
It's probably easier than asking me.
I'm obviously working with a stable genius here.
I grew up with guns, got interested in reloading, eventually made my way to gunsmithing classes, and am currently considering a dealer's license.
I was also around before the Internet so I remember when people actually had conversations instead of making everything a measuring contest.
I was also around before the Internet so I remember when people actually had conversations instead of making everything a measuring contest.
NewbOldster
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I went all the way back to April of last year in this thread - first mention I saw of "at will" was from you.
As to the P320 - I don't own a Sig of any kind, but I do like factual information. Especially where safety issues are at play.
From the following link:
"In the Nightline version, Bagnell says, “Firearms are not subject to federal regulation."
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"There’s also an un-named Texas gun shop manager who says a P320 fired “as he cleared the weapon, blowing off one of his fingers. The weapon was out of battery when it fired.”
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◀Previous Post Next Post▶ Like many of our readers, we’ve been watching the slow drip, drip, drip of lawsuits accumulate over the past couple of years against SIG Sauer. These suits allege that their ultra-popular P320 pistol can fire without the trigger being pulled. Some of the plaintiffs...
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Can a firearm discharge if it's 'out of battery'?
Pistols firing “out-of-battery” – Defense Training International
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NewbOldster
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Only thing I care about is accurate information. I'm certainly not one to be comparing 'measurements' - unless it involves valve grinds or torque or a horse's height and the such.
Would one do that by owning,shooting and working on the exact same make and model?
Not a lot of people shoot BP what are you shooting that discharges at will?
Edit for discharge at will is either complete hyperbole or you're the most incompetent fire arm owner alive........how are you still alive with all your guns discharging at will?
Cuddles
Well-known member
why were a bunch of guns and bullets lying around for anyone to mess with?
Who put them there?
As for getting camera angles right etc why not use toy guns or laser ones or whatever?
Sounds like sloppiness all round. So I suppose you can´t blame this tragedy on only a single person.
Who put them there?
As for getting camera angles right etc why not use toy guns or laser ones or whatever?
Sounds like sloppiness all round. So I suppose you can´t blame this tragedy on only a single person.
So you enjoy me pointing out that cap and ball can discharge without a trigger pull?
Can a firearm discharge if it's 'out of battery'?
Pistols firing “out-of-battery” – Defense Training International
Yes.
Only thing I care about is accurate information. I'm certainly not one to be comparing 'measurements' - unless it involves valve grinds or torque or a horse's height and the such.
Accurate and measurement free.
I try to be helpful.
Cuddles
Well-known member
why were a bunch of guns and bullets lying around for anyone to mess with on the film set?
Who put them there?
As for getting camera angles right etc why not use toy guns or laser ones or whatever?
Sounds like sloppiness all round. So I suppose you can´t blame this tragedy on only a single person.
Who put them there?
As for getting camera angles right etc why not use toy guns or laser ones or whatever?
Sounds like sloppiness all round. So I suppose you can´t blame this tragedy on only a single person.
so i am a make-up person, or a cook, and i joined other crew members in shooting at targets, i have some respon??? i don't think so...
amen
Any cap and ball.
You have just showed your hand in your assumptive accusations.
It's probably worth noting that you have yet to find out that I am indeed correct.
I find it also of note that you presume, and as such will remind you that I said this:
You only need to prove it to yourself.
It's because you never asked.
I don't shoot any caps without using the trigger but I can if I want to.
You have spent some time not understanding what you can show yourself...
I think it's hopeless to spend much else on the thread at this point.
I've said what I need to.
Good luck out there!
NewbOldster
Active member
Let's say I'm having a little get-together at my house of my NRA-trained gun friends. We're in the game room, there's a game on the tube and some great tunes coming out of the speakers, and four of us are playing doubles 8-Ball pool. Somebody starts showing off a new gun purchase, and it goes around the room in a kind of show and tell. Nobody 'clears it', including me.
I point it at someone and pull the trigger and BANG! My friend dies as a result.
Who's ultimately at fault? Nobody involved in this very fictional account bothers to clear the firearm, because we all assume that 'the other guys' have already cleared it.
But only one person pulled the trigger.
NewbOldster
Active member
You've convinced me of nothing, to be honest.
OMFG
I can't say that a gun can discharge without the trigger being pulled without you hearing that it wasn't a person's fault.
You fellas are super charged and polarized for bear.
Argue over BS if you need to, but it's BS.
I think it's probably gone unnoticed that I said that Baldwin is likely lying.
Frothing and champing the bit but no substantial conversation.
Would you let me point a cap and ball at your foot and bet me I can't shoot your foot without pulling the trigger?
I can't say that a gun can discharge without the trigger being pulled without you hearing that it wasn't a person's fault.
You fellas are super charged and polarized for bear.
Argue over BS if you need to, but it's BS.
I think it's probably gone unnoticed that I said that Baldwin is likely lying.
Frothing and champing the bit but no substantial conversation.
Would you let me point a cap and ball at your foot and bet me I can't shoot your foot without pulling the trigger?
Oh I see that... dogzter can't get it either.
It's willful ignorance and quite popular these days.
