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Albany Sour Diesel Clone

eastcoastjoe

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Collin Palmer from Brooklyn. Head of Formulations at PAX. Wing Wang is a sibling to ECSD aka the real Sour Diesel.

The 1996 (Albany) cut, the "original sour diesel", and the AJ cut aren't related to the Chem/ Sour family. Period.

I think these databases are flawed because none of you can determine that what you are using as a base is the real thing.
 

BDownSeedTeam

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Yeah I hear you, that's why i said we all interpret smell/taste quite different sometimes, but honestly I never had Lemon in any Sour Diesel clone myself, Chaco, Meltingpot, Captain Krip , Hazyfontazy/Bachus125 but I admit I've seen people I know mention they get a slight lemon twang even growing some of the cuts so I agree maybe the smallest touch in that insane loud Skuny Funky Gas
The slight lemon tang u describe was evident in all sour I got post 2014-.. as to why that is ? I got no clue it’s like it got more lemon pledge floor cleaner and less gas , I knew the gas skunk terp I loved so much was getting over taken , whenever I got another batch of it . Always like green bright green stemy, sometimes stemy er We just called her sour nicknamed her sour in Boston but I knew she had changed. I have reason to believe that I was smoking aj sour d cut for a while even had one of my boys admit he had a aj cut 2012-2014
 

JetLife175

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I spoke with Todd mccormick in length about clones being renamed and phylos being the one and done to figure out if this cut has gone out under a different name. This would particularly Explain all the og kush being the same .. most of them.. believing avalible pgr nutrients could’ve played a role in changing the terpiene profile of the cut , similar to steroids and a weight lifter . Pgr to ghost og. I wonder how this may tie into the sour debate aswell. Ofcourse nothing is proven until we have scientific results right . Repsect
Nope.

I ran PGRs for quite some time and nope. You can tell the difference in each cut.

Sour is just a notoriously finicky family of cuts. I've never had two consecutive runs where it turned out the same.
 

BDownSeedTeam

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Nope.

I ran PGRs for quite some time and nope. You can tell the difference in each cut.

Sour is just a notoriously finicky family of cuts. I've never had two consecutive runs where it turned out the same.
That’s what I discussed with Todd, I’ve never ran pgr haha . And very nice information my brother okay , I grew the ecsd she definitely cannablizes herself , noticeable ate more cal mag then my other cuts at the time , and she was the fastest to re grow her branching after takeoff a clone and leaving a node or two and Fan leaf, 5 days the branch was back couldn’t tell where I cut it , I got that cut from stoney917
 

BDownSeedTeam

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He told me it’s was chacos cut of ecsd and they call it chaco because he grew it the best, so when I see guys arguing if ecsd is chaco , chaco is ecsd haha and big shouts out to skunktek . He’s been passing around the chaco for a while
 

JetLife175

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That’s what I discussed with Todd, I’ve never ran pgr haha . And very nice information my brother okay , I grew the ecsd she definitely cannablizes herself , noticeable ate more cal mag then my other cuts at the time , and she was the fastest to re grow her branching after takeoff a clone and leaving a node or two and Fan leaf, 5 days the branch was back couldn’t tell where I cut it , I got that cut from stoney917
The two main ones I have experience with is the ECSD and the AJ. Moreso the AJ.

I feed N into flower.... like far into flower with sours.

Once I flip, I cut my N by half, and taper it off until week 4-5 depending on the run. Sours seem to like that extra nitrogen into flower. That's just my experience.
 

JetLife175

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He told me it’s was chacos cut of ecsd and they call it chaco because he grew it the best, so when I see guys arguing if ecsd is chaco , chaco is ecsd haha and big shouts out to skunktek . He’s been passing around the chaco for a while
It's called the chaco because he was the first one really documenting the the cut. His thread is right here on IC.

Chaco is a stand up dude. His ecsd was the one I ran.
 
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