eastcoastjoe
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I think these databases are flawed because none of you can determine that what you are using as a base is the real thing.
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Albany Sour Diesel Clone
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I think these databases are flawed because none of you can determine that what you are using as a base is the real thing.
BDownSeedTeam
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The slight lemon tang u describe was evident in all sour I got post 2014-.. as to why that is ? I got no clue it’s like it got more lemon pledge floor cleaner and less gas , I knew the gas skunk terp I loved so much was getting over taken , whenever I got another batch of it . Always like green bright green stemy, sometimes stemy er We just called her sour nicknamed her sour in Boston but I knew she had changed. I have reason to believe that I was smoking aj sour d cut for a while even had one of my boys admit he had a aj cut 2012-2014
Nope.
I ran PGRs for quite some time and nope. You can tell the difference in each cut.
Sour is just a notoriously finicky family of cuts. I've never had two consecutive runs where it turned out the same.
BDownSeedTeam
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That’s what I discussed with Todd, I’ve never ran pgr haha . And very nice information my brother okay , I grew the ecsd she definitely cannablizes herself , noticeable ate more cal mag then my other cuts at the time , and she was the fastest to re grow her branching after takeoff a clone and leaving a node or two and Fan leaf, 5 days the branch was back couldn’t tell where I cut it , I got that cut from stoney917
BDownSeedTeam
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He told me it’s was chacos cut of ecsd and they call it chaco because he grew it the best, so when I see guys arguing if ecsd is chaco , chaco is ecsd haha and big shouts out to skunktek . He’s been passing around the chaco for a while
The two main ones I have experience with is the ECSD and the AJ. Moreso the AJ.
I feed N into flower.... like far into flower with sours.
Once I flip, I cut my N by half, and taper it off until week 4-5 depending on the run. Sours seem to like that extra nitrogen into flower. That's just my experience.
It's called the chaco because he was the first one really documenting the the cut. His thread is right here on IC.
Chaco is a stand up dude. His ecsd was the one I ran.
Noted. I was getting yellowing early bloom with straight flip to bloom nutes. Wish you well my friend! LT
It'll change whole way you approach sours. Really made them express properly.
BDownSeedTeam
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They’re heavy feeders for sure Word is bond. One love. Long love sour diesel rip stoney917. Love to see all the passion in all the growers words in the threads. Let’s do this !!
R.I.P. Stoney917 gone to a higher place and not forgotten!
Lost mine almost two years ago now, to The Borg. Homie who passed me the cut carrying those fuckers, thanks again bro. I lost so many special things to that scourge, they were the most insidious mites I have ever encountered. Just un-killable. Even resorted to abermectin, nada. Fuckers.I just got a gifted the cut!A few days ago View attachment 18876794 View attachment 18876795 View attachment 18876796
You guys have a special cut there, hold onto her!
Just yesterday I was chatting with a friend from the old days (in between nursing, my newly fractured humerus) someone whom was with me in the mid-2000s who knows the Albany (or whatever) I said what happened to it ? he said it’s lost its gas …. From what I’m reading that our growers here can indeed get her to reek … the sour enigma
It's a real tempermental plant. If you don't get it just right it won't be very special. The Original Diesel is a lot easier to get consistent quality from. But I don't like the high, it just destroys your day. The Albany i could still function on, without a massive crash. But she's fussy for sure.
I'm an organic guy, in a soil/soilless hybrid mix. But with the Albany (and some others), I honestly got the best flower when I added a little synthetic feeding into the schedule.
I posted on wrong thread
I've had to take the absolute nuclear option of saving some really old gems on the past and went full on eagle20. As long as they aren't flowered out for almost a year or so and new cuts are repeatedly taken.
I'll try to remember that next time Up the Nitrogen a wee bit. Whats the easiest way to do that with Jacks I wonder, will have to look into it. I have a bunch of 321 a and b and cal nit. Guessing just need to adjust the ab ratio.
Look into the initiation protocol for tc. You can do it without a hood. All incoming cuts get a bleach water soak for 10 min followed by rinse in sterilized water 3x then stuck in pre soaked and microwaved rooters ala microcloner or bill graham's deal. Then individual ziploc for 14 days. I dont even open them just leave them. (dr pk video, one word of warning also got screamed at for using 70 iso 10 seconds prior to bleach- can create dangerous offgasing of chloroform) I only use diluted bleach solution now)
You tube dr pk tc walkthrough 1 through 3 and oh micro cloner. Some here screamed at me bleach! But its been a SOP for tc with rare plants for decades. It eliminated anything/everything non systemic with ease. But you have to re introduce into a clean environment so bug bombing and cleaning are a necessity, complete tear down/sterilze all work materials with high bleach solution with PPE may be necessary. I don't run big only personal so keeping mom's away in a special area may be the only way for larger op.
BDownSeedTeam
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Same way I lost the ecsd cut damn broad mites man… I was gonna use nuclear options but I tried sulfur instead , but dude idk man haha.. I guess we’ll give it another go real soon, I was taking in 3 clones a month with no quarentine space or sulfur dunk just ipm and wham I got hit hard for my collection for sure
Yeah, that's generally how I handle things as well. But I trusted this guy, he assured me he had zero pests. Sure buddy... never again. At that time, I had around 35-40 elites in the stable. Ever since then, I've just been running seeds. I'm a little sad still, about some of the things I lost; (the Diesels, Death Star, Kush Mints, Forum Cut, some Hazes, LA Affie, Chem 91, Chem D, Pine Tar (special local strain), and many other nice things).
But I'm also enjoying running seed lines again, and getting into a lot of the things I have made over the years with those elites. So it's not a total loss, but man there were some gems that I'm unlikely to get back again...
