Advancing Eco Agriculture, Product Science

[jidoka]

So the process is a cold enzymatic digestion of fish, crab and shrimp pieces. You gotta let it go long enough to maximize what comes from that process. But then you gotta shut it off with either sulfuric or phosphoric acid. You do not want it to continue on in the bottle

That is what Aea brought to the party. And they have changed acids

My opinion...don't believe shit Aea says. But pacificgro runs multiple chemical analysis and is honest

I had chem analysis run on holo mac/mic. Fuck Aea... never again will I believe shit they say

 

[HappyTreeFarm]

So the process is a cold enzymatic digestion of fish, crab and shrimp pieces. You gotta let it go long enough to maximize what comes from that process. But then you gotta shut it off with either sulfuric or phosphoric acid. You do not want it to continue on in the bottle

That is what Aea brought to the party. And they have changed acids

My opinion...don't believe shit Aea says. But pacificgro runs multiple chemical analysis and is honest

I had chem analysis run on holo mac/mic. Fuck Aea... never again will I believe shit they say

for sure an issue, i asked them for the MSDS sheets for Accelerate and they wanted to send it to my certifier directly, they still have not sent it to me. how can we know what to apply if we don't know what we are applying? no reason to not be transparent with their products......

 

[HappyTreeFarm]

what was the response from your chem analysis for holo mac/mic?

the MSDS sheets are vague from them, hard to know if all is listed

 

[HappyTreeFarm]

edit... just went to website they have posted the msds sheet for accelerate in the last week or so

 

[jidoka]

Yea... my name ain't on this one but let me check with whose is and see if we can do enough redacting

But basically they claim this shit is balanced and k is almost 3 x ca. Makes me think they got no clue what balanced means. Fuck it looks like a coot mix

 

[plantingplants]

Do you still like their Accelerate? That was one I thought I'd try.

Speaking of enzymes, there are a lot of products out there for biological remediation, getting rid of organic smells, etc. I havent used it but I would guess pepzyme makes use of them. What do you make of adding enzymes in soil? There seems to be dfferent types but I don't know much about them. Is it basically helping break down microbe food, thereby catalyzing microbe growth?

 

[HappyTreeFarm]

damn thats scary, no coots in this bitch. the label analysis looks pretty balanced. i guess if we are gonna use these mac/mic high levels of gypsum will be needed to counter balance all that K. looks like we could benefit from our own fuckin line of liquids

 

[HappyTreeFarm]

most enzymes are specific proteins that catalyze specific processes. they speed up the breakdown or increase reaction rates. have been proven to be very beneficial in ag production. anything that end in "ase" is a group of enzymes, cellulase, glucanase, chitinase, etc.
Kempf talks about them as like an "end-wrench" one size for a specific process, being able to complete that process over and over and over again. Their effectiveness is decreased outside of optimal temperature and Ph, don't know much about this or what the parameters are?

also anyone plz chime in and add to this, much much more on this subject

 

[Avenger]

this was a direct ICP OES analysis of the liquid as it pours out of the bottle.

 

[jidoka]

Is that my analysis avenger?

 

[Avenger]

ya

 

[reppin2c]

Thanks for posting that up. Talk about bringing in the K, I wouldnt have guessed that one

HTF-not all of us are pour the gypsum on fans

 

[jidoka]

Right...far as I am concerned AEA can go fuck theyselves. I ain't gonna lie, I love PacificGro but I will never use another single thing from them

 

[caterpillar710]

Did u try any acetates yet? They're working trick for me.

 

[acespicoli]

It's says page 260 ? I can't get it....... click sends me right back to page 259

 

[jidoka]

Cat....which ones are you using. I mean is there a micro package, I know the brand. I def wanna try the K for spray if I run lower K in the soil

Are you playing with Morgan tests? I am putting a lot more emphasis on saturated paste.

 

[caterpillar710]

Cat....which ones are you using. I mean is there a micro package, I know the brand. I def wanna try the K for spray if I run lower K in the soil

Are you playing with Morgan tests? I am putting a lot more emphasis on saturated paste.

That's what berry bob did for me and honestly I felt like it was the best test I've ever gotten After he explained why the Morgan test was better than melich3 or aa8.2

They don't have a multi mineral but I got every single one they make ; mg mn mo zn cu ca


Pretty sure we known John doesn't say shit honestly since they had the Catawater exploding rejuvenate batch.

 

[jidoka]

What I heard is that it was a housekeeping issue. Failure to clean the mixers/lines out. So they got live bacteria in a formulation designed to increase bacteria. It would then bubble away (aerobically or anaerobically) and build pressure and then blow up on Hazy. The catawater no doubt contributed but was not the root cause.

 

[caterpillar710]

That's why the photomag grew a scoby too just saying pretty sure the catawater combine with that funk is why they was popping

 

[reppin2c]

I didn't get it as bad as others did but the swollen containers where kinda comical. Pretty sure the sea weed bath made my buddies chick's hair better lol. Good times