Advanced nutrients question

[Lester Beans]

Not adjusting the pH correctly is the issue with at least half of the problem plants we see on forums.

 

[couchlockd]

Check out heavy metal and pesticide contamination in organic vs lab grade salt nutes.

That argument doesn't hold weight, gescy metal testing is just something States put in Play to Make commercial producers have to conform to ti make IT that much More difficult for them. The states like making it difficult and hard on Growers for some ungodly reason, literally The states sit back and collect 50% of their profit Like an equal partner. Yet they still throw every speed bumb they can at them.

As they're no Big deal unless absurdly high. Correct organic soils built suth s little thought and effort pass just fine

 

[Hiddenjems]

As they're no Big deal unless absurdly high.

Are you familiar with the build up of these metals in living organisms over the course of their life? You don’t excrete mercury and lead, or hydroflourides.


Cannabis concentrated metals in the soil in the tissue of the plant as well.


The average iq in America was lowered 10-15 points because of leaded gas in cars.

 

[xtsho]

Are you familiar with the build up of these metals in living organisms over the course of their life? You don’t excrete mercury and lead, or hydroflourides.


Cannabis concentrated metals in the soil in the tissue of the plant as well.


The average iq in America was lowered 10-15 points because of leaded gas in cars.

You left some out.

Lead pipes
Lead paint

 

[Hiddenjems]

You left some out.

Lead pipes
Lead paint

I read a paper with the data normalized for other sources of contamination. It was scary how little lead it takes to have negative effects.

Long story short we were choosing between leaded race fuels and methanol racing fuels. Everything I read about lead was horrible.

 

[xtsho]

I read a paper with the data normalized for other sources of contamination. It was scary how little lead it takes to have negative effects.

Long story short we were choosing between leaded race fuels and methanol racing fuels. Everything I read about lead was horrible.

I don't think it's as dire as that. But it all adds up.

 

[Lester Beans]

Racing fuel smells divine...

 

[Hiddenjems]

Racing fuel smells divine...

Yeah it does. But that smell is tetraethyllead.

 

[Hiddenjems]

I don't think it's as dire as that. But it all adds up.

I went back and looked at newer studies that claim 3-5 points off. But their tests were done in the late 1900’s early 2000’s.

 

[couchlockd]

Are you familiar with the build up of these metals in living organisms over the course of their life? You don’t excrete mercury and lead, or hydroflourides.


Cannabis concentrated metals in the soil in the tissue of the plant as well.


The average iq in America was lowered 10-15 points because of leaded gas in cars.

Smoking organically grown cannabis isn't going to cause any issues to us as far as Mercury poisoning, lead poisoning or The like.

What you're doing is the definition of fear mongering. Yes, there's a possibility of heavy metals content in cannabis, both organic and salt based synthetic grown.

They both can have higher then acceptable levels in regards to passing some arbitrary test. Synthetic can have higher than organic, and organic can have higher than Synthetic as well

If the organic gardener is diligent when picking inputs, the finished product will pass testing just fine. Same Way with synthetic, if the grower is mindful of what nutes to use and how to use em, they'll Also pass testing

Ive been growing since 2000. Ive done it all. From the years 2003-2014 i successfully ran a garden house with 2 5000 watt flower rooms and a 4k Veg clones mother area.

I have done classics ebb n' Flow with 5x5 table's under huge reservoirs, did nft, did hybrid Dutch buckets top feed drip with bubbled individual bucket's (where the standing few inches of water in the Dutch bucket had individual Air stones acting as dwc as well)

I ran;
Gh 3 part per label ratios
Gh Lucas
Advanced nutrients gmb in Lucas ratio
Dynagrow
Technaflora BC line
Botanicare pure blend pro
Advanced nutrients conny
Advanced Sensi (my favorite of AN's line)
Flairform
Van de zyme house and garden
Gh Maxi powered line
Dutch master
Bcuzz

Best results came From gh Lucas and dynagrow and sensi 2 part with The trio of Bloom booster's, bud blood, Big Bud/kushie kush and overdrive.

In fact i liked those 3 booster's with any of the base lines.

BUT once i started dabbling in organics, I like that style much better, nothing to worry about, way leas time spent dialing in the systems, hardly any meters needed, And after my first year with organics i started matching yields just fine for the most part.

Once i really had a few year's of organics under my belt, I'd put it up against anything grown "hydro" and likely win over Everytime.

I prefer the organic smoke over dro , i prefer organic growing over dro, i prefer the free time organic growing afforded me.

While i still love hydro systems, I have a little 2x4 in the basement im using with a 18" x 36" ebb and flow to teach the kiddos how to grow stuff, I like the sciencey feel to it, like mixing the nutes... On a small scale. I wouldn't dream of making my head stash room to be grown synthetic, even in pot's with coco or peat, as i prefer organic herb.

The argument of you couldn't tell the difference between properly geueb hydro vs organic has never rang True with me, i could Def tell the differences. Same argument is analoged in the audiophile community about class D amplification vs class AB or pure class A.
Those with less developed ears can't tell the difference. With the right amount of processing via a DSP, it would be hard for most to tell the difference, and ive even Been tricked a few times by guy's that really know how to exploit a DSP for all it's worth. But the vast majority of user's and Even guy's who get paid 600-1400$ to tune a DSP aren't good enough to take a full class d amped system and make it as sonically accurate and natural and good sounding as a class AB setup with Just basic DSP tuning

BUT ill sum it up in case of TLDR; I've done years of both hydroponic fertilizers and organic soil.
I prefer soil organics over hydro for many reasons, and the marginal amount of heavy metals that can be present in both salts and organic grown isn't anything to worry about

We aren't all going to start getting cancer or lead or Mercury poisoning from pot now that we Have easy means to test it

Its easy, as im sure Bud loaded Way beyond acceptable where it fails testing by a huge amount of metals, would likely look, smoke, taste and smell the part as well. I wouldn't touch it, as most wouldn't either because it smoke's like ass, taste like ass and looks like ass.