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Tangwena

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I posted these after I had just quick dried and vaped a very small amount of one of the smallest buds. The taste is for real. I haven't tasted the real deal for 30 years since I left Africa.
This early at ten weeks and the bud was exceptional I had to toke on some skunk to calm me down. The heads are going to be super potent in 3 to 4 weeks . I will take some at 12, 13 and 14 weeks so I can get the best high. Then revedge and keep clones this is realy cool I never thought I would taste the real good malawi again.
Based on how good and authentic this Malawi is I am cracking a Zamaldelica as we speak. If Ace can make this that good the Z has got to be a winner too.
My depest respect to the guys at Ace you are true experts in this feld.
Tangwena
 

Tangwena

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start of week 12

start of week 12

Well this is start of week 12 since flowers first appeared, she has a very pronounced lemon smell followed by hash oil type smell.
I quick dried a bud and tried it. Definately what I am after, I haven't had a high that good for 30 years. I have a couple of clones and I plan to revege after harvest. all in all, exactly what i was after. she starts the flush today and I plan to harvest weekly over the next 3 weeks.
That way I will get exactly what I want after the revege.
5 stars to Ace foe getting a true quality Malawi.
Tangwena
 

yujin

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Well we have been having 40c heat wave down under but next week temps are cooler thank god. I have reduced the ec of the feeds to 2.0 from a peak of 2.6 three weeks ago.
She seems to be handling the high temps (30c) in the grow room ok but I wouldn't want it to go on much longer.
I am super happy with the size and weight of the buds as I am only using two 375watt CMH bulbs. I will definately keep using them in future grows.View Image View Image View Image View Image

Wow, just came across this post and had to read it twice. When you're dealing with a landrace sativa like that you shouldn't feed it at that high a rate. I was looking at all the pictures of the curled leaves and I was wondering how much you were feeding them. Then I saw where you said you lowered it from 2.6. In my opinion, 2.0 would be on the extremely high side. 2.6 would simply not even be an option in my book. Everyone has their own methods, so you just need to do what works for you. But all I know is I've seen a lot of overfeeding, and this is a classic example of it. One of those examples where you don't even have to expand the thumbnail. It's pretty obvious, I'm actually surprised nobody has said anything about it. If I'm just running a typical consumer variety. What I would consider max EC, would be about 1.7. Average I would say is around 1.5. For any landrace sativas it would probably be better to run those at 1.4 or lower. Whats nice is you get better results plus you save some cash by not dumping it down the drain. Even better, you could just ditch the synthetic nutrients and figure out how to keep a healthy, living soil. If you do that your plant will get all the food it wants, and nothing more. I'm not really into force feeding plants. But in particular landrace sativas don't typically respond well to heavy feedings.
 

Tangwena

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Hi Yujin thanks for the input, I agree. I will be starting low on the revege she definatly responded well after the flush. The 2.6 was after taking into account the natural ec of 8 that the water had in the beginning. I have tried organic outside in the sun for 30 years and never got the power I was after. I lived in Malawi and have never been able to reproduce the power of the heads grown by the africans in Malawi. I dont smoke the herb I chew it, so I can taste the flavor of the cured bud. My lungs are too stuffed from years of smoking in Africa. I find as I dont smoke it the so called chemical residue from hydro is not an issue for me and when well flushed out tastes great.
Tangwena
 

Olifant

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I've never heard of anyone with a preference of chewing unprocessed flowers. You know bioavailability is quite low and absorption very slow going this route?
 

Tangwena

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HI Olifant, I only chew well cured bud, and as I cant vape or smoke it anymore its all i have got to get off, and I do get off ,so I am happy and thats all that matters in my world.
Life is great Tangwena
 
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spliphy

you should really get to know edibles

you should really get to know edibles

HI Olifant, I only chew well cured bud, and as I cant vape or smoke it anymore its all i have got to get off, and I do get off ,so I am happy and thats all that matters in my world.
Life is great Tangwena

Hey Tangwena,

Great grow! Those buds got really big for Malawis. I don't have experience with Ace's version but do have with Afropips and African Seeds. I combined my versions in a crossing and they don't get as fat as yours so maybe I will have to look into Ace.

Good stories about the chapter 5. Please continue to describe the tastes and smells involved with your plants as a reference.

Instead of chewing cured bud, in my opinion, you will get more mileage out of your product if you encapsulate the resin in butter or another cooking oil. I use a pot, water, and oil and let it simmer for about .5 hour. The water prevents the heat from degrading the product, but you could just as well simmer the buds in oil over low heat. I remove the water in my method by letting the mixture cool and straining the buds out and discarding them. The oil and water mixture is then refrigerated until I can separate the hardened oil from the water. The oil can then be incorporated in baked goods or other dishes (I make yeast biscuits). After a batch of edibles are made, doseage will have to be determined so as to not overindulge as incapacitation is a real possibility. Start out with a little on an empty stomach and allow 1-2 hours for full onset of effects before the correct dosage is determined.

Best regards,
spliphy
 

Tangwena

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Hi Spliphy I have made iso oil and bho but never tried your oil and water method I will def give it a go. I have made butter and cookies with it but it always knocks the shit out of me.
Then I have to write off the day. The bud chewing is addictive in a good way, plus I find I can get the dose spot on it comes on in 15 mins and lasts all day, plus I can top up anytime.
I have grown seeds of Africa malawi and got 6 oz from a plant but the high was lame.
Even this Aces malawi fem has a way to go to get good. It smells heavy dark resin and hash oil smell with a slight lemony smell.
I have never seen anywhere malawi as strong as the best from nkota nkota in the north of malawi. I have had strong knock out smoke but not the mind numbing shock treatment you get from the real deal
I checked the trichs today 70% cloudy 30% clear, at least 2 maybe 3 weeks or more to go.
I have some Mulangi Gold from Holy Smoke seeds germing now they are regular so I want to pollinate the Aces female when I revege her after harvest to see if I can get the pine malawi I used to get when I was lucky back in Malawi.
I used to score 2 or 3 cobs every couple of weeks and in the 8 or so years I lived there they where rarely the same type of plant. There are dozens of different strains some very rare phenos that you cant find in just a few months holliday.
Well thanks for the good info on the oil extraction.Life is great.
Tangwena
 
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spliphy

Hi Tangwena

Hi Tangwena

I used to score 2 or 3 cobs every couple of weeks and in the 8 or so years I lived there they where rarely the same type of plant. There are dozens of different strains some very rare phenos that you cant find in just a few months holliday.

Yes, I think you outlined the difficulty of finding something reproducible from the region. Today it may be even more challenging.

The edible dosing step is vital or, as you say, a day is easily written off. The very first time I made edibles I used way too much product and then when trying it didn't wait long enough for onset so I ate more. It was more debilitating than lsd as my legs were rubber and knocked out for 13 hours. A fairly accurate way to estimate dosage is to figure the smoking dosage of the amount used in the recipe and divide into the final product. I like to eat about twice what I would smoke in a good session (the onset is slower and spread out longer it seems when eating).

Best wishes on your quest to replicate your former experiences. Have you tried Nevil's Haze from Mr. Nice? I'm sure you have heard of your fellow Aussies who developed the hazes. While maybe not as electric, several phenos have probably the strength you are after.
 
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NorCalDreaming

Malawi is such great stuff. Haven't had the chance to sample any Ace Malawi yet. Last Malawi I had was from someone who got beans from someone from a farmer in southern Malawi. One of my favorite smokes ever.
 

jammie

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hey there tangwena- those gals look crazy good. i've got some ace purple haze x killer malawi in the 4th week of veg. can't wait til they get to your stage. definately got to see the end of this one
 

Tangwena

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Hi guys, Jammie from a sample bud I took last week, and one I took this week, I think the real power seems to develop late in the flowering, last weeks dried to a lemon smell, no high, this weeks is still drying but the deep oily smell is 100% up on the previous week, and no lemon smell, I think its now heading in the right direction. Maybe in 2 or 3 weeks it will be ok. I intend leaving it as late as I can.
I think I may have to go back to Malawi and stay awhile to try and find what I want.
August to September is when the newly cured harvest becomes available. Its really frustrating not finding it, I do have some Nevilles Haze seeds to try, but the Aussie buds I have previously had from friends were very strong knocking me speechles and unable to function properly but not the same as the off the planet high from a good malawi, its totaly different like a different drug altogether. Its something everyone should try at least once in their life. I do not hold much hope of this current plant getting anywhere near what I want. But saying that I will give it my best love and attention in the hope that it does.
When I first left Malawi I brought seed stock to Aussie, they grew huge like trees, very resin coated but lacked the power I expected, probably due to my lack of skill, but it has been the same every time I grow a Malawi seed.
The guys I bought from were family friends of friends. They used to grow in the stockades they kept the cattle in at night, they were made of a wooden fence with huge thorn bushes even lions wouldn't go near them. After about a year the cow shit was a foot deep. They would make a new one and use the old stockade to grow vegetables and of course chamba half a dozen huge well groomed plants that produced pounds per plant.
Coupled with the wet hot summer and a warm dry winter to finish them off. I am trying to reproduce this climate in my grow room to get the best shot. But I am not sure about success. Time will tell. Tangwena
 

Tangwena

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week 12

week 12

These pics show better how far still to go the others were with lights on and look more mature than they really are. Tangwena
 

Tangwena

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start of week 13

start of week 13

Hi guys this is the start of week 13. She is 90% opaque and 10% clear trichs New growth has almost stopped. She has been on basic rations for 5 days now ( flushing). From the looks and a vape test I have just done she has at least another 7 days maybe more. I hope to take half in 7 days time and the rest 7 days after that but subject to vape testing of course.
I am hoping the high gets a lot stronger in the next 2 weeks as though this is the real deal, its not up to the best available in Malawi by a long way yet. I live in hope.
Tangwena
 

Tangwena

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week 13 lights out shots

week 13 lights out shots

She always looks better in the flash so much sexier I think.
Tangwena
 

billyblog

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Wow Tangwena!

That's some serious head bangers you're nurturing out there, man! How rewarding is that going to be?! Phew!!! It sorta gets me dizzy thinking about doing my own 4 packs of these.:whee:


billy
 

jammie

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damn tangwena i'm gettin a weed woody over that girl of yours. is that one plant(the one with the foot in it)? i'm LST'ing the shit out of my 3 purple haze malawi's and their form resembles yours. i hope i get the yield. feel free to stop over at my place-https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=276181 - hope to get some new pics up this week.
 
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