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Absolute Amber from Banana Silver Ladyboys
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desert fox
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Bravo indeed...now I got to read all 46 pages tonight
. I remember reading the first few pages. I am going to go do 5 hash rip in a row to honor this thread going this far. you are truly a master.
. I remember reading the first few pages. I am going to go do 5 hash rip in a row to honor this thread going this far. you are truly a master.desert fox
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SpaceshipNelson
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That coin is beautiful.. . . I like the way they're pointing at the concentrate with admiration.. Bravo to you brother Jump!!
paperchaser825
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So ya....I tried reading through it all....the pictures though....it's like....pr0n.....
Anyways, I wanted to know if I will for sure be able to boil my ethanol away @ 29.9" Hg. Is this correct? I thought I read that on SkunkPharm or something. So tired.....Sorry.
Anyways, I wanted to know if I will for sure be able to boil my ethanol away @ 29.9" Hg. Is this correct? I thought I read that on SkunkPharm or something. So tired.....Sorry.
Dropping the absolute pressure using vacuum, lowers the boiling point to the point that they boil at ambient temperatures.
29.5" Hg would be better, in that it wouldn't also boil away THC.
Here are the charts showing boiling points under vacuum, compliments of Skyhyler.
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paperchaser825
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how long am I looking to freeze a 300ml can of tane? till I see frost? time length?
Also, thanks for those graphs. Crucial stuff.
Also, thanks for those graphs. Crucial stuff.
paperchaser825
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Froze cans for ~ 3-4 hours. Worked well in a Mr. Coffee thermos style coffee pot. Butane stayed liquid for a good hour. The ethanol is in the freezer now and IIRC they will stay in there for 24-48 hours. I plan on filtering the solution, then bringing to a boil in my vacuum chamber. I will try to report back with the final product. Someone stop me if I'm doing something stupid. 
I always am.....
I always am.....
Until they reach -18C/0F. I usually do it over night, but have pushed it to four hours or so.
paperchaser825
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Just from this one run of doing an open soak (not a tube extraction) I have found the material I used to be much more stripped of it's trichomes. As far as yield goes, this is my first time, and I haven't finished yet. As far as filtering goes, very little is lost in this process and you are able, if willing, to recover the THC lost in the filter by using the processes described in this thread (resoaking filter in ethanol to recover losses).
paperchaser825
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Tried vacuuming the ethanol. My vacuum proved itself a turd. I was able to boil for just a little bit, but alas came up short.
I then went and purchased some oil and did a double boiler bath or w/e it's called. Was interesting to see how stable the temp of the ethanol was until it was all evaporated. It seemed as soon as the ethanol evaporated, the ethanol temp went from 173F to 250 quickly. I waited for the bubbles to stop. I stirred the oil a bit and was greeted with a few more bubbles, but I felt I may have over cooked it when I saw a bit of smoke and measured the temp of the solution @ 250F. The oil is in the freezer cooling. I will try to report back with my usual shit pics n stuff.
I then went and purchased some oil and did a double boiler bath or w/e it's called. Was interesting to see how stable the temp of the ethanol was until it was all evaporated. It seemed as soon as the ethanol evaporated, the ethanol temp went from 173F to 250 quickly. I waited for the bubbles to stop. I stirred the oil a bit and was greeted with a few more bubbles, but I felt I may have over cooked it when I saw a bit of smoke and measured the temp of the solution @ 250F. The oil is in the freezer cooling. I will try to report back with my usual shit pics n stuff.
paperchaser825
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It seems I was right about cooking it too long...it is the consistency of a resin. Quite close to that of my regular extractions, difference being all of the flavors of my bud that transferred to my regular extractions seem to have been removed by the process of winterizing. I believe I remember someone referring to the product yielded by the process described in this thread as "fresh". I would say my experience so far would move me to describe it as clean.
TL;DR: I think I burnt the shit, and while my normal tube extractions yielded a product similar to the bud I grew, this process not only yielded more as a result of soaking, but also yielded a "cleaner" product even while being what I would consider burnt to shit.
On the burnt to shit note....I think if I was just a bit more vigilant of the whole process and let it cool down before completely evaporating I would have possibly yielded shatter. I would love to see others chime in as to why I yielded a resin vs a shatter. I may have missed that somewhere in the thread. I think I remember someone saying something about initial product being a factor. I dunno.
TL;DR: I think I burnt the shit, and while my normal tube extractions yielded a product similar to the bud I grew, this process not only yielded more as a result of soaking, but also yielded a "cleaner" product even while being what I would consider burnt to shit.
On the burnt to shit note....I think if I was just a bit more vigilant of the whole process and let it cool down before completely evaporating I would have possibly yielded shatter. I would love to see others chime in as to why I yielded a resin vs a shatter. I may have missed that somewhere in the thread. I think I remember someone saying something about initial product being a factor. I dunno.
We are averaging about 8% loss from our indoor plants, but have seen as much as 20% on outdoor plants brought in by others for processing.
The first boil was outgassing and the rest comes off more as a vapor that bubbles, so your pump may have been working fine. It just isn't very fast.
A 250F final purge removes the monoterpenes and loses that "fresh" smell and taste, but still produces good resin. It won't produce shatter, because 250F partially decarboxylates it.
We get shatter reliably at 115F and -29.5"F, which tastes and smells exactly like what it was extracted from.
paperchaser825
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Understood. I use a vacuum pump that is currently connected to a piece of equipment that I can't afford to have go down. Is there any chance of damaging a vacuum pump by performing this operation? Specifically, I am wondering if the ethanol vapors could in any way harm my pump when being evacuated. I hope I am using correct terms here. Thanks in advance.
