A5 Haze S1

[The Zientist]

Hi @LostTribe,
I appreciate your input. I've been resizing the pictures and exporting them at 70% of their quality, so it makes it easier on the servers. Although it seems it's still being problematic on the user end.

Those were grown under LED, Mars Hydro TS1000. All of them went through different stages of environmental stress, and they have displayed a different stress response and capacity of withstanding the stressors. EC (both high and low), light intensity and temperature have been the top three. Hydric stress when they were in small 2L pots and low water temperature also took a toll on them.

I also generally offer lower pH ranges, specially for more narrow leaf types, 5.8-6.3.
These have been kept the same way.
I haven't ran a runoff test in soil since a long time, but out of curiosity next time I'll water them till runoff and see how that's going.

From my preliminary experience with them under subpar conditions, I can tell they have no problem flowering under LED, it's just a question of having the cardinal parameters in check.
Personally, I'm still adapting from transitioning from HID to LED. I'm getting a better grasp of the variables that I need to pay attention to, definitely still on the learning curve with them. Having such height limitations in this setup (90cm of total headspace) leaves little room for much leverage.

These were the first that had such a bad response to higher PPFD. It was a crucial mistake early on to run the panel at full power and not doing an apical cut as soon as they started entering the "danger zone" in regards to light intensity. Many of them outgrew the led panel too.

Thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts and helping a closet hack.
tZ

 

[browntrout]

A5 S1 x Guerilla Gold #2 F1

Picked from about 30 seeded females. This one is more A5 than the mother with a shorter flowering time and early trigger. Reveg for next outdoor season at 45N.

Very floral/decaying leaf petals, musty basement, old pine wood and incense. Much stinkier haze than sisters and mothers. Also much wider leaves then her sisters, GG#2 has quite thin leaves.

Needed a big boost of mag under LED.

 

[browntrout]

A5 S1 x Guerilla Gold #2 F1

Picked from about 30 seeded females. This one is more A5 than the mother with a shorter flowering time and early trigger. Reveg for next outdoor season at 45N.

Very floral/decaying leaf petals, musty basement, old pine wood and incense. Much stinkier haze than sisters and mothers. Also much wider leaves then her sisters, GG#2 has quite thin leaves.

Needed a big boost of mag under LED.

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Here is a sister (A5 S1 x Guerilla Gold #2) form seed, outdoors @45N, photo taken October 1st 2021. Not bad for 1/4 haze!

 

[mr.brunch]

That looks beautiful- I bet it would perform indoor just as well.
Top stuff

 

[browntrout]

That looks beautiful- I bet it would perform indoor just as well.
Top stuff

Hey thanks man!

I can imagine grown at 40N or in a Greenhouse she would shine and much better yield and a bit more time to finish. From clone should knock 1-2 weeks and be perfect for me.

Does anyone wanna find out?? I have lots of F1’s and wide genepool F2’s.

Also a very small amount of seed from my selected female (she’s mostly sterile) - go figure)

Also have Neville’s haze/GG2 x A5/GG2.

 

[mr.brunch]

I’d give them a go indoors in a heartbeat - outdoor I’m too close to prying eyes from all sides

 

[The Zientist]

Hey everyone,

It's D101 of flowering.
Here are a couple of my most Haze leaning that are currently reaching peek point maturity. They've had a troubled path, though more recently they've been stable and maturing as they should.
#1

#5

As for the ones that have already been harvested:
-#2, the sickle leaf self topping mutant, has been harvest at D82. It was already gone through a couple rounds of sampling and I can say I fucking love it. Dissociative and daring, I wasn't expecting that from its poor looks. It seems like it gives you pretty vivid dreams. Long-lasting effect (2-3h) and you find yourself doing the craziest shit around not noticing you're high af. Floral smells, hints of chlorine too, weird.

-#4, the most variegated of the bunch also got cut at D91. I might have taken it a bit past her ripeness. Sampling it as I write this. It's still reaching proper RH% to allow for a good sampling. The feeling is similar, although this seems more like that sweaty palms and looking over your ears kind. Smells like decay a bit, strange and dangerous smell. Not something I'd eat for sure.

I'll catch you up later on as they get harvested and time allows for a cure.
tZ

 

[Facelesdoll]

Any uhhhh piff terps uhh? (Scratches at neck like a fiend) frankincense/mildew/mold/sandalwood/cedar?

 

[Hammerhead]

A5HS1 #8

 

[The Zientist]

Any uhhhh piff terps uhh? (Scratches at neck like a fiend) frankincense/mildew/mold/sandalwood/cedar?

#1 has definite sandalwood going. Also some quasi-sweet dark cherry woody thing too. #5 leans more musky damp.

No frankincense on this run unfortunately.

 

[Facelesdoll]

Nice to hear it's got some woody scents though. I'm wondering who has a5 beans out there? Breeders/vendors or what?

 

[Hammerhead]

@65 days.. I think she will be done in around 80-90 days.

 

[The Zientist]

Nice one @Hammerhead, it reminds me of dubi's Panama a bit.

How's it on the nose?
I'll be posting smoke reports on mine soon, as I have a few more sessions with each.

Found some cool plants, despite poorly grown this time.
The Purple Zamal x A5 are coming out nicely and already triggering my interest much more than the sole A5S1 did at any giving point during the cycle.
D36 11/13

 

[PlasmaTube]

A5Hz S1. She's pretty ugly but she's mine. First run from seed. Looks bushy, a bit wild, and def not as NLD as one may think of see compared to other grows here like @Hammerhead or @The Zientist


Took cuts before throwing her in flower. She was a finicky grower in veg, but she's about to hit week 1 of 11/13.

 

[The Zientist]

A5Hz S1. She's pretty ugly but she's mine. First run from seed. Looks bushy, a bit wild, and def not as NLD as one may think of see compared to other grows here like @Hammerhead or @The Zientist


Took cuts before throwing her in flower. She was a finicky grower in veg, but she's about to hit week 1 of 11/13.

Thanks for sharing, definitely wild looking.

Her leaf serration reminds me of my #6. It's currently my favorite in terms of effect.
It was also one of the longer flowering siblings.


Soon I'll share my full report, and a few more insights into their weirdness.

See y'all soon.
tZ

 

[The Zientist]

Decided to throw a few of the A5S1 ladies in the PCK open pollination.

Didn't bother even to put together a different soil for them, they went using the same water only LOS recipe I've been tweaking around for hybrid/NA modern varieties.
A5S1#4

A5S1#6

A5S1#7

Funny to watch them grow again under different conditions, they are exquisitely weird, and it's generalized. Lots of weird visual and agronomic traits.
Here they are at D75 of 12/12. Of course the male PCK crew flowered too early and only few viable seeds, just for the sake of experiment.

What I can say is that I've been enjoying the past harvest plenty. They are unique effect wise and worthy of a rank of their own, specially in contrast with more modern stuff. The most long lasting stuff, the stack is amazing.
With a bit more time available, I'll leave you with the full smoke report. I'll be keeping a few mothers (if not all) for an S2 attempt.

Catch you soon.
tZ

 

[Piff_cat]

check this out believe its coastal burma ibl found add on strainly. its leaf and structure nearly identical to one of your a5. this area is what i like to call haze homeland. north east thailand, northern laos, north vietnam/south china, burma/laos border. all places ive found unique haze type plants with insane vigor and profiles to match. haze A is very unique really dont see much like it. right in between indian and se asian ganja, very high humidity(possibly most important sativa enviorment trait as low humidity often = cbd)

pak beng golden laos from zomia sourced from hill tribe khmu village medecine type not commercial

 

[browntrout]

A5 S1 x Guerilla Gold #2 clone, selected from 1 of 25-30 females, the odd one out, while most were A5 dominate in bud/smell, this one has no detectable GG#2 traits except early trigger, with beautiful lasting floral/decaying flower, hashy, herbal and incense notes. Unfortunately likes to herm on certain branches indoors. The semi auto trait has survived and her potted sisters are quite flippy and heavily preflowered. She should be much faster flowering from clone.

 

[browntrout]

A5 Haze S1 (A5 pheno) x GG2, she’s been stagnant for 3 weeks or more, finally showing signs of budding that she’s been working towards. 45N.

She was the latest of the F1’s but from clone is a good 2 weeks earlier from clone based on last years photos. The F2 seedlings are at the same pace in terms of flowering. There is a very narrow leaf very sativa pheno in the F2’s that has a much more narrow leaf than GG2 or A5 mother, not seen in F1’s. Will be keeping an eye on that one .

Hopefully the rain stops and the weather stays warm.

 

[browntrout]

A5 Haze S1 (A5 pheno) x GG2, she’s been stagnant for 3 weeks or more, finally showing signs of budding that she’s been working towards. 45N
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A5 Haze S1 (A5 pheno) x GG2, she’s been stagnant for 3 weeks or more, finally showing signs of budding that she’s been working towards. 45N.

She was the latest of the F1’s but from clone is a good 2 weeks earlier from clone based on last years photos. The F2 seedlings are at the same pace in terms of flowering. There is a very narrow leaf very sativa pheno in the F2’s that has a much more narrow leaf than GG2 or A5 mother, not seen in F1’s. Will be keeping an eye on that one .

Hopefully the rain stops and the weather stays warm.
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Also has anyone noticed droopy leaves in the A5 genepool? The mother and clones consistently have droppy looking leaves.