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A Taste of Africa from Malawi

Alrighty, been a min but(n I hope this the thread) I am the moron w unlabeled spray bottles of ph down in the same vicinity as my unmarked pwm spray bottle.....well just wanted to give an update on the victims....all survived and r growing!!!! And the big Malawi, although the leaves ain't pretty, she has some dense nugs upon her too at day 70( the one w the half empty screen
 

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Old Toker

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Congrats on saving them!:tiphat: Does this success mean you are no longer motivated to label your bottles and not put Ph down in a spray bottle?:biggrin:
 

Dave Coulier

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Flowers smell like lemmon,she start to smell in veg the buds are very sticky i touch one and it was like glue in my fingers.I am near 7 weeks from switch and i am go now to 11/13,she is starting yellowing in fan leaves,am i have an early finishing feno?

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The yellowing of leaves is related to a lack of N typically, or another problem manifesting as an N deficiency. It has nothing to do with an early finisher. Its nutrition related. Still looking mighty nice though!
 
I got so pissed/sad that the bottle n ph down no longer reside any near my premise. Got bottles labeled and have just a water/fert station n all other stuff for bugs, mold etc... r in my lawn care cabinet. Also growing beneficial plants to enhance my preventative defense against intruders(basil, garlic n mint)
 

kerberos

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The yellowing of leaves is related to a lack of N typically, or another problem manifesting as an N deficiency. It has nothing to do with an early finisher. Its nutrition related. Still looking mighty nice though!

I think i am underfeeding her,i will up the bloom nutes i hope to fix the problem...Do you recoment to use some grow nuts also?i am 7 weeks from switch.
 

Dave Coulier

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I think i am underfeeding her,i will up the bloom nutes i hope to fix the problem...Do you recoment to use some grow nuts also?i am 7 weeks from switch.


Ditch the two part formulas that require a Grow, and Bloom component. I went that route for years with GH 3 part series, and switched over to Dyna Grow 7-9-5, and I couldn't be happier. I use it throughout veg and flower. Just one bottle, and get amazing results. I also use osmocote(4grams-6grams/gallon of media)to provide a small amount of constant nutrition to cover my ass when I forget to feed or feeling lazy.

Also, using more bloom nutes wouldn't fix the yellowing, it would likely make it worse. Not enough N inside most "bloom" ferts, if any, plus they typically are high in K, which competes with N for ion uptake, only exacerbating the problem.

Use more "grow" formula(higher Nitrogen content) during flowering to keep your fan leaves healthy and green for at least 80% of the flowering cycle, and your buds will fill in nicely. Be careful not to over do it though on the N.

Even if you can't keep them healthy and green that long, yellow leaves can still photosynthesize so dont give up on them just yet!

I dont know the flowering length of your lady, but whatever the breeders packaging says put two more weeks on it. Whatever that new value is, try to keep those fan leaves healthy and green for 75-80% of that time frame, and you're gtg.
 

kerberos

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It is a 10-13 weeks strain acording to ace,and i see from here that it depends from the pheno,i don;t think i am having an early feno so 13 weeks maybe 14 is the harvest frame so i am in mid flower i def need more Nitrogen to keep her going.Thanks for tips i will check Dyna Grow but my goal is not to use nute bottles at all, next run of malawi i will go for supersoil as i have notes what she needs now.
 

Siever

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pure sativa's always have yellowing leaves in flower. Don't feed extra N, ' cos they don't need it. Just a low dose as in most bloom nutrients is enough.
 

kerberos

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pure sativa's always have yellowing leaves in flower. Don't feed extra N, ' cos they don't need it. Just a low dose as in most bloom nutrients is enough.

I have 6-7 more weeks to go and she already yellowing all over so she asking for a good dose of N,don;t want to loose leaves at this stage if i was near finish i def let her go but i am far from finish.I was thinking the same with bloom nutes but aparently don;t have enough N for her.
 

Siever

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can you send a picture? I've been growing pure sativa's for a long time and they start shedding their leaves quiet early.
 

kerberos

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I want to add that i didn;t top her just lst under scrog.Do you think if i was topping her i will have better results?I am asking for the next run...
 

Lammy

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Well this information isn't specific to Malawi. But I would think ideally you would top it at least a couple times so that you had four main grow points and that would help you scrog it better but I'm not sure it's necessary. I would prune off anything below the net and anything that's not going to be getting good light
 

seeded

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I want to add that i didn;t top her just lst under scrog.Do you think if i was topping her i will have better results?I am asking for the next run...
Sometimes plants won't stop stretching or are too crowded or whatever and need to be cut back but LST achieves the same results without losing the original growth tip making it clearly the better option for increasing your yield.

Nice bud btw :biggrin:
 

Dave Coulier

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pure sativa's always have yellowing leaves in flower. Don't feed extra N, ' cos they don't need it. Just a low dose as in most bloom nutrients is enough.


can you send a picture? I've been growing pure sativa's for a long time and they start shedding their leaves quiet early.

Most of what you said in the first post is incorrect, which explains why you've had such problems described in your second post.

Your ladies should not be losing fan leaves quick and early, let alone should you allow yellowing quickly into flowering. It is possible to take Thai and any other long flowering Sativa to 110+ Days flowering with large healthy fan leaves that are still GREEN! You have not been able to accomplish this because you are under-feeding them and dont understand the Nutrition demands of your ladies as well as you believe you do.

What are you doing to measure soil fertility during the flowering cycle? Are you at all? I have over a thousand soil fertility measurements from my 4 GN Thai Stick ladies alone, 4 flowering cycles(5-6months each cycle) with the very same ladies over and over and over. I understand their nutrition and other long-flowering sativas very well.

Because of those measurements and knowledge gained, I can now take my Thai to nearly 4 months before the large fan leaves begin to shed and fall off. The buds also get much bigger too as a result! You could to if you didn't just assume the yellowing was natural. You're leaving alot on the table, and I bet your ladies would produce even better.

I wanted to look at photos of your ladies in your albums so I could better understand your situation, but only saw 5 pics. I have 550 pics in my Thai album. Check them out. Some of them may even blow your fucking mind.

This lady was fed nutrients with that accursed Nitrogen in it every other day, and could only have produced these massive Thai buds by maintaining soil fertility levels throughout flowering or at least attempting to.
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This bud is over 2 foot long!!!!!!

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If you made it this far without blowing a fuse, know that none of what I wrote above was meant to inflame you, nor embarrass you. Im a rather blunt person or so people tend to tell me, and sometimes I may come across as hostile...?

Id like for your ladies to do better, and for you to reap the rewards at the end of the day.
 
I got 5 girls goin, 2 scrogged, 1 mainlined, 1 I was weaving together and 1 topped a few times
 

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Siever

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If I feed my ladies more then they look like they had way too much. That's why I don't feed them a lot. those Thai buds you showed: mine are as big with CBG Destroyer.
B.T.W. Dubi states that pure haze doesn't need a lot of nutrients. Of course this doesn't apply to most pure sativa's.
It's true I 've never did a soil test. I don't even know where I could do this.
 

Buddler

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Most of what you said in the first post is incorrect, which explains why you've had such problems described in your second post.

Your ladies should not be losing fan leaves quick and early, let alone should you allow yellowing quickly into flowering. It is possible to take Thai and any other long flowering Sativa to 110+ Days flowering with large healthy fan leaves that are still GREEN! You have not been able to accomplish this because you are under-feeding them and dont understand the Nutrition demands of your ladies as well as you believe you do.

What are you doing to measure soil fertility during the flowering cycle? Are you at all? I have over a thousand soil fertility measurements from my 4 GN Thai Stick ladies alone, 4 flowering cycles(5-6months each cycle) with the very same ladies over and over and over. I understand their nutrition and other long-flowering sativas very well.

Because of those measurements and knowledge gained, I can now take my Thai to nearly 4 months before the large fan leaves begin to shed and fall off. The buds also get much bigger too as a result! You could to if you didn't just assume the yellowing was natural. You're leaving alot on the table, and I bet your ladies would produce even better.

I wanted to look at photos of your ladies in your albums so I could better understand your situation, but only saw 5 pics. I have 550 pics in my Thai album. Check them out. Some of them may even blow your fucking mind.

This lady was fed nutrients with that accursed Nitrogen in it every other day, and could only have produced these massive Thai buds by maintaining soil fertility levels throughout flowering or at least attempting to.
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This bud is over 2 foot long!!!!!!

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If you made it this far without blowing a fuse, know that none of what I wrote above was meant to inflame you, nor embarrass you. Im a rather blunt person or so people tend to tell me, and sometimes I may come across as hostile...?

Id like for your ladies to do better, and for you to reap the rewards at the end of the day.
Dave that's a beauty there what I'm wondering is when are you going to grow some ace GT or Malawi or Panama:) B
 

spugg

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Most of what you said in the first post is incorrect, which explains why you've had such problems described in your second post.

Your ladies should not be losing fan leaves quick and early, let alone should you allow yellowing quickly into flowering. It is possible to take Thai and any other long flowering Sativa to 110+ Days flowering with large healthy fan leaves that are still GREEN! You have not been able to accomplish this because you are under-feeding them and dont understand the Nutrition demands of your ladies as well as you believe you do.

What are you doing to measure soil fertility during the flowering cycle? Are you at all? I have over a thousand soil fertility measurements from my 4 GN Thai Stick ladies alone, 4 flowering cycles(5-6months each cycle) with the very same ladies over and over and over. I understand their nutrition and other long-flowering sativas very well.

Because of those measurements and knowledge gained, I can now take my Thai to nearly 4 months before the large fan leaves begin to shed and fall off. The buds also get much bigger too as a result! You could to if you didn't just assume the yellowing was natural. You're leaving alot on the table, and I bet your ladies would produce even better.

I wanted to look at photos of your ladies in your albums so I could better understand your situation, but only saw 5 pics. I have 550 pics in my Thai album. Check them out. Some of them may even blow your fucking mind.

This lady was fed nutrients with that accursed Nitrogen in it every other day, and could only have produced these massive Thai buds by maintaining soil fertility levels throughout flowering or at least attempting to.
View Image

This bud is over 2 foot long!!!!!!

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If you made it this far without blowing a fuse, know that none of what I wrote above was meant to inflame you, nor embarrass you. Im a rather blunt person or so people tend to tell me, and sometimes I may come across as hostile...?

Id like for your ladies to do better, and for you to reap the rewards at the end of the day.

That is very impressive! Wow, you obviously know what you are doing. Here is my Malawi clone at 10 weeks, one week before harvest.

I took her down 2 days ago.
 

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