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a ppk for a 6 plant limit
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Snook
Still Learning
Out dated would suggest that they aren't as good as new ones.. nothing could be further from the truth.. IF you take time to read about it and understand it, no matter what version or thread you wish to read, its all the same.. I taught a fellow the PPK method.. all he wanted was for me to run it for him... 3 months later he still couldn't calibrate a PPM meter... he just wanted the weed.. not to learn how to do it.. read.. understand.. its worth learning about..
EDIT: GRY is right.. Passive Plant Killer thread has some really valuable info in it... wish the pics were still up though..
EDIT: GRY is right.. Passive Plant Killer thread has some really valuable info in it... wish the pics were still up though..
Relax fellas, I've read the very first ppk thread. Took two weeks but i did it. I've also read 3 other threads since then. I guess "outdated" was a bad term. Geesh. Folks a really touchy with semantics. Snook, I've read a lot of ppk thread before joining or even commenting. It has some tweaks here and there. After reading at least 6 -7 years of threads. The basic premise of the system is the same. Just folks adding things here and there. I have a complete understanding of how and why it works. Was just trying to get a representation of the current tek. I'll quit posting as it seems a misuse of term can rub folks wrongly.
C.O.B.
C.O.B.
av8or
Member
I think what COB meant to say was, "My bad. Didn't mean outdated. Just wondering what the current tips and tricks are to an otherwise proven concept. I agree with you guys about research. Done all the ppk reading already. Just trying to stay current. Any advice from you guys that rock amazing plants daily in this system would be appreciated."
No worries, dude. I know how you intended to respond so I'll help you out. Read this thread. All of it. Plants in ppk thread, too. Remarks complete. Quit your bitchin'.
No worries, dude. I know how you intended to respond so I'll help you out. Read this thread. All of it. Plants in ppk thread, too. Remarks complete. Quit your bitchin'.
well. its was that word outdated..... you explained yourself very well in this post. I think we can all be on the same page.... but don't quit posting over something like this.
i have to admit when i read the word you chose, i said to myself - oh-oh.... someone might get offended.
i understood what you meant, and you didn't mean harm. it IS hard as a newcomer to find all the info and read it and having to imagine the missing photos in old threads
some of the threads ARE outdated, heck some have less current 'action' and are old threads - they are missing photos in some cases.... OF COURSE they look outdated.
i read them all backwards. newest to oldest. THAT helped me a LOT - newer posts had photos, so by the time i got to the old days, i didn't need the photos
that should be a suggestion in that list of PPK threads thats around here somewhere. (that list should be a sticky)
PS: there are more than just two active PPK threads..... a lot more. i only say this because you might not know
Globule
Member
There was some crazy dude that liked to sniff his mango haze whilst dangling precariously from the ceiling who had a fairly comprehensive PPK Link-O-Rama somewhere around these here parts...
your list. it should be a sticky
thanks for reminding me who notified me of it in the first place, it was you!
Well said,couldn't have said it myself AND didn't apprently.
Thanks for the understanding Av8.
C.O.B.
Agreed, and Thank you. I read D9's thread witch led me to your mini,IF's and his links. And read a few links in zeke's. I'm gooood!
av8or
Member
COB, as far as I've seen, the newest innovations are all related to applying the ppk to different resources, meaning we all come from different parts of the world with different pots, hoses, fittings, etc. available to us. We have been experimenting with feed duration and rate, also. And media combinations. Most of us use less feed more often with great results as opposed to the full flood we started with. Some use perlite (myself included) so flooding the tub isn't an option.
I think the big lesson I've learned lately is that the more water you can have in the system, the better. I recommend a wider, flatter bucket for the plant (about 5-6" media depth).
Honestly, if you read the thread for my first ever grow you will see that I just copied D9, Flower Farmer, HL45, Permaculture, Snook and a few others that were already kicking ass at it. Then I applied it to my grow space.
My advice: grab a few plastic buckets and get started. Ppk is a blast. You'll come up with your own way of putting it together soon enough. McKush uses very nice fittings all technically put together and professional. I kinda just jam rubber hoses into plastic buckets with no fittings. It's all how you like doing it. Be well boss.
I think the big lesson I've learned lately is that the more water you can have in the system, the better. I recommend a wider, flatter bucket for the plant (about 5-6" media depth).
Honestly, if you read the thread for my first ever grow you will see that I just copied D9, Flower Farmer, HL45, Permaculture, Snook and a few others that were already kicking ass at it. Then I applied it to my grow space.
My advice: grab a few plastic buckets and get started. Ppk is a blast. You'll come up with your own way of putting it together soon enough. McKush uses very nice fittings all technically put together and professional. I kinda just jam rubber hoses into plastic buckets with no fittings. It's all how you like doing it. Be well boss.
++ Av8or. Its not in the do-hickeys and bells 'n whistles i use for shits and giggles and to occupy my head space for a while. I work on my room for both fun and therapy and because its what I like to do right now until i get finished... lol like that will ever happen.
Seriously. focus on what the system is doing and how you can apply it to your space and material choices are not that important to the way the system works
I only have a single 4 site garden room for my own mmj needs so i don't have to worry about scaling, etc... spending the dough on do-hickeys ain't taking porridge from me baby ya know
Seriously. focus on what the system is doing and how you can apply it to your space and material choices are not that important to the way the system works
I only have a single 4 site garden room for my own mmj needs so i don't have to worry about scaling, etc... spending the dough on do-hickeys ain't taking porridge from me baby ya know
Gosh, it sucks when you type out a response a couple of paragraphs long and it goes to shit because your fingers are to large for such a sensitive screen! When I was coming up, there was no such thing as a computer nor an internet! Still learning site navigation. So please forgive me, I've already noticed I posted in a thread i which I thought I was responding to the a question,but was in absolutely the wrong thread.
Av8,D9,McKush, thank you.
I am running a perpetual flower tent, 54"x54"x82". 4 in/out every two weeks. 8 week flowering strain. 2.5 coco/perlite hempys, 1-2 gal coco/perlite smartpots on saucers, ugh!
I'm thinking 1 or 2 experimental 3.5 on 3.5 gal buckets. Saw someone doing it, either Mckush or Mpl. My veg tent houses a 3x3 flood tray dtw. I'm also hand watering both tents.
Eventually, i'd like to bring my plant count/labor down and just deal with the trimming issues you all seem to dread,lol being bored and all just watching them grow and having some of my life back is toooo intriguing to just not do.
I have all the parts available to me to any rendition of the system. As I am in a big agricultural city. Only reason why I was so eager to see any new tek. Like you guys/gals (mistress) say, find a system you can copy and just do it! Now, who knows that person doing the 3.5's on 3.5's? Thanks in advance since I can't rep yet.
Peace. C.O.B.
Av8,D9,McKush, thank you.
I am running a perpetual flower tent, 54"x54"x82". 4 in/out every two weeks. 8 week flowering strain. 2.5 coco/perlite hempys, 1-2 gal coco/perlite smartpots on saucers, ugh!
I'm thinking 1 or 2 experimental 3.5 on 3.5 gal buckets. Saw someone doing it, either Mckush or Mpl. My veg tent houses a 3x3 flood tray dtw. I'm also hand watering both tents.
Eventually, i'd like to bring my plant count/labor down and just deal with the trimming issues you all seem to dread,lol being bored and all just watching them grow and having some of my life back is toooo intriguing to just not do.
I have all the parts available to me to any rendition of the system. As I am in a big agricultural city. Only reason why I was so eager to see any new tek. Like you guys/gals (mistress) say, find a system you can copy and just do it! Now, who knows that person doing the 3.5's on 3.5's? Thanks in advance since I can't rep yet.
Peace. C.O.B.
I am doing/starting 3.5gals on top of 3.5gals.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=325682
I am at a slow process due to life and three flower rooms downstairs.
Ahhh thanks Mr Blah, you and Av8 I have now seen. Will be over to follow.
Peace. C.O.B.
Snook
Still Learning
^^^This is post #105.. if nothing else, having the pics here cant hurt.. but your saying that '3.5 of turface and the 3" GAP = 6.5" of media' I been missing the 3" gap=media part... I realize your talking those feed pans but: does this hold true for any PPK pot regardless of size/diameter?..
i think its this:
it should hold true for all size/diameter PPK pot - remember the medium in the tailpiece is contiguous with the medium in the pot, and that medium in the tailpiece is EXACTLY in the air gap.
therefore, as far as capillary action is concerned , the depth of the medium = the sum of the water gap (because of the medium filled tailpiece) plus the depth of media in the pot -
and this is why the perched water table ends up below the bottom of the pot, in the tailpiece (somewhere in the section of tailpiece that is in the water gap)... i think of it like this. from we human's point of the tailpiece is PART of the po. HOWEVER, from the point of view of the medium and perched water table , the tailpiece and pot combined actually ARE the 'pot'.
for any PPK pot...
i think that explains it
