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a ppk for a 6 plant limit
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Hey D9 just wanted to let yea know i changed things up... instead of using them barrels i opted to down size so plans are to build 10 of these for my PPK build 2.5 gallon top buckets and 4.5 gallon below i think this should be ok ???? any thoughts i got buckets for free so what the hell lol so thinking 50 gallon res should do the trick its going to be a bit before the grow on pheno hunting and hoping for females but it will be the ultimate show down
hahaha 10 of these 10 - 8 gallon under current 10- 13 gallon under current same strains winner take all
hahaha 10 of these 10 - 8 gallon under current 10- 13 gallon under current same strains winner take all
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auto tire valves. i use the 5/8" hole size valves from auto parts or tire stores. in plastic you drill an undersize hole, maybe 1/2" or 7/16" depending on the plastic, and pop them in. never leaks.
they look workable but the 2.5 gal buckets will limit roots. i used 3.5 gal buckets on top of 3.5 gal buckets and grew some nice plants.
if you are bent on making it some kind of competition you should build the 7 gal tuff tub version i have shown here.
you are using a top of the line cch2o system so to be fair you should use the d9 "Monster Maker" model.
it will blow away the undercurrents!
please put them in the same room!
seriously though, good luck and i hope you grow a bunch of good weed!
I recycled probably 100 3.5 gallon buckets earlier this year, I was tired of looking at em and having them take up space, I still have a few here and there. They are almost like hydroton, you can never really get rid of all of em, no matter how hard you try.
The real throwback is the top bucket that looks like its been blasted by a shotgun. That was a root aphid orgy breeding chamber for me....I only used that method once, and the only reason I had any harvest was because I was in ppk.....nearly lost my ass with that first round.
I cant remember how many tire valves I drilled out before I realized that the tire valve tool also could remove the stems.....shinola!
Dr fever, look up heisenberg tea, your gonna want to add it to your uc to prevent the dreaded root rot/slime that they are unfortunately known for getting. Would hate to see ya fail on your first try with a uc. Some people add bleach, but the heisenberg bene bacterial tea is a much better option IME.
Like D9 said it if you really want a fair comparison you should have comparable containers. The roots arent supposed to grow into the bottom bucket if you set up your air gap and feed properly. So your comparing 2.5 gallons to 8 or 13 gallons. You can find a round tote and cut the bottom off of it, thats what I did for a while cuz I caught the cheap bastard disease from d9.
Good luck with your grow.
Dr fever, look up heisenberg tea, your gonna want to add it to your uc to prevent the dreaded root rot/slime that they are unfortunately known for getting. Would hate to see ya fail on your first try with a uc. Some people add bleach, but the heisenberg bene bacterial tea is a much better option IME.
Like D9 said it if you really want a fair comparison you should have comparable containers. The roots arent supposed to grow into the bottom bucket if you set up your air gap and feed properly. So your comparing 2.5 gallons to 8 or 13 gallons. You can find a round tote and cut the bottom off of it, thats what I did for a while cuz I caught the cheap bastard disease from d9.
Good luck with your grow.
At first i was going with 21 gallon for tops and 23 gallon for res on bottom i am not trying to make it a competition i am looking for speed of growth and size of growth in that time frame for instance here soil grown 30 days from a 3" clone i am hoping to see double that in a ppk or under current least i hope so
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D9,
Do you have any suggestions or experiencing running PPKs w/ horizontal lighting? DH touched on this earlier, but it got buried quick with all the action around here.
I've got a project with a buddy. 8k in the basement. Ceilings are around 8' I guess.. I wanted to keep him horizontal w/ trellis for ease of operation. He's not capable of crawling around a tree room as I am. Already bought some more adjust a wings so we'll be doing DTW coco on 4x4 tables (9 2 gal Per) as our initial attempt.
After witnessing the stability of the PPK I'm pretty sure I could practically automate this and grow successfully without any real input of the caretaker/friend. Fill a bulk rez once a week and tell my buddy to just watch make sure the place just doesn't burn down.
How short can a PPK module be? I guess I could do something like alien dawg and just do a 4x4 table with tailpieces down into another shallow container. Maybe run Napa beds, but that sounds like a lot of media.
Say 4 PPK modules per horizontal 1K... would these just blow up and be too unruly with the wild growth that the PPK offers?
Do you have any suggestions or experiencing running PPKs w/ horizontal lighting? DH touched on this earlier, but it got buried quick with all the action around here.
I've got a project with a buddy. 8k in the basement. Ceilings are around 8' I guess.. I wanted to keep him horizontal w/ trellis for ease of operation. He's not capable of crawling around a tree room as I am. Already bought some more adjust a wings so we'll be doing DTW coco on 4x4 tables (9 2 gal Per) as our initial attempt.
After witnessing the stability of the PPK I'm pretty sure I could practically automate this and grow successfully without any real input of the caretaker/friend. Fill a bulk rez once a week and tell my buddy to just watch make sure the place just doesn't burn down.
How short can a PPK module be? I guess I could do something like alien dawg and just do a 4x4 table with tailpieces down into another shallow container. Maybe run Napa beds, but that sounds like a lot of media.
Say 4 PPK modules per horizontal 1K... would these just blow up and be too unruly with the wild growth that the PPK offers?
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D9,
Do you have any suggestions or experiencing running PPKs w/ horizontal lighting? DH touched on this earlier, but it got buried quick with all the action around here.
I've got a project with a buddy. 8k in the basement. Ceilings are around 8' I guess.. I wanted to keep him horizontal w/ trellis for ease of operation. He's not capable of crawling around a tree room as I am.
***you sayin hes 'heavy'??
After witnessing the stability of the PPK I'm pretty sure I could practically automate this and grow successfully without any real input of the caretaker/friend.
Fill a bulk rez once a week and tell my buddy to just watch make sure the place just doesn't burn down.
Possibly but 'Famous last words.'
How short can a PPK module be? I guess I could do something like alien dawg and just do a 4x4 table with tailpieces down into another shallow container. Maybe run Napa beds, but that sounds like a lot of media.
This wasn't real short but I 'once' put a drilled out 3.5 gallon bucket, with a very short (maybe 4") tailpiece, in a 5 gallon bucket, PPK set up. I had to pulse feed because there wasnt enough nutrient juice in the pump rez to flood feed (and with all those holes, I need a really big pump to flood it! duh.lol). other than that it didn't do bad, roots in the water but no problems.
I've been working on this but do not have the balls to run it.. 3 gallon Rubbermaid totes (HomeDepot) with 2x, 1"(dia) tailpieces, 13" tall but there is still a flooding issue and the placement of the float valve, even for a pulse feed might not work. it looks cool though..
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not really, i haven't used a horizontal fixture in about 7 years or so.
but one of the projects i'm involved with now will use gavitas over ppk scrogs.
i think it will be 8 lights over 12 sites. should be interesting!
the 7 gal tuff tubs in the 70 quart muck tubs are only 14" high.
The wider media container limits the depth of the media. This allows for better penitration of fresh oxygen to the roots. Thereby keeping the root zone in the perfect zone for better growth.
this is a cheap humidifier. 27 gal tote, float valve, nylon line, microfiber towels, trashcan to feed the float.
here i used 24 towels on the lines about an inch apart with their ends hanging in the water. water level set about 3-4".
you can just see the float valve in the middle.
off camera there is a fan blowing across the towels. you can control humidity somewhat by fan speed.
this room is approx 11x11x8 and tightly sealed.
this brought rh up from around 40% to around 70%. good for cloning.
here i used 24 towels on the lines about an inch apart with their ends hanging in the water. water level set about 3-4".
you can just see the float valve in the middle.
off camera there is a fan blowing across the towels. you can control humidity somewhat by fan speed.
this room is approx 11x11x8 and tightly sealed.
this brought rh up from around 40% to around 70%. good for cloning.
correct! 506g dried, no 1gpw, but i was impressed with gavita penetration, i have since bought more those adjusta-wings setups.
How much did that cheap humidifier drop the temp?
Awesome humidifier. Thanks man. I'm going to give this a try.
Would it stand to do anything against low RH w/ 6-8 lights or only for smaller wattage cloner/veg areas?
Thanks for the post. Going to rig up something as soon as I can in preparation for next run.
Would it stand to do anything against low RH w/ 6-8 lights or only for smaller wattage cloner/veg areas?
Thanks for the post. Going to rig up something as soon as I can in preparation for next run.
Flower farmer, you can always make more than one. My bro has two or three of those humid9ifiers in a much larger room than yours.
you know, i really don't know!
i wasn't paying attention and when i check this room daily if the temp isn't within the band i want i just twist the knobs on the cheap ac or the baseboard heater.
it's possible it dropped it some but i wouldn't know!
still don't know for sure but it's looking like about 30 sec every 3-4 hours.
we are getting the room to operating temp and rh and will be able to set it more precisely then.
