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A Guide to Fishsticks

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grow strategy advice/opinions sought ??

grow strategy advice/opinions sought ??

I'm trying to lighten the load ... what about 12/12'ing my juveniles in "small containers" until they start to indicate sex? ... cull the males & then veg & flower out & take cuts from the females...is this a good idea, or a bad idea ? anyone actually done this? my goal is to get them sexed as efficiently as possible while not having to do an up potting till i know if they are females , or not...peace & good vibes to all:ying:
 

Goats

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Bin #23 is gone . Hehe, my wife is going to kill me. If she finds out. Lol. I have been drooling over the frosted cherry cookies forever.

frosted cherry cookies and tropicana cookies have both been making me drool on IG for a while now. best of luck with those :tiphat:
 

unclefishstick

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I have to run my daughter back tonight so I cant get back into the grow. Going to drive me crazy leaving it undone.
they let women drive now you know!


And tomorrow I have a room coming down so that will suck some more time also.
hopefully it will snow and there will be an emergency roof repair too!


I'm trying to lighten the load ... what about 12/12'ing my juveniles in "small containers" until they start to indicate sex? ... cull the males & then veg & flower out & take cuts from the females...is this a good idea, or a bad idea ? anyone actually done this? my goal is to get them sexed as efficiently as possible while not having to do an up potting till i know if they are females , or not...peace & good vibes to all:ying:


nope,switching to 12/12 and then back will only add another month to the whole process while they revert to veg,patience is pretty much the only answer,its gonna take 6-8 weeks for them to show...theoretically it would save some time if you rooted cuts under 12/12 but in practice the plants would be almost ready to indicate on their own by the time they were big enough to take cuts...
 

Ichabod Crane

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they let women drive now you know!



hopefully it will snow and there will be an emergency roof repair too!

Yeah but the burka gets in the way.

I do have a house to frame here soon. Just waiting on the trusses to get done and the concrete floor to be poured.

I am driving her back in about 45 minutes. Went down and put clones into cups and up potted about 10 plants earlier. About ready to leave.
 

Treetroit City

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Bin #23 is gone . Hehe, my wife is going to kill me. If she finds out. Lol. I have been drooling over the frosted cherry cookies forever.
Well I just snagged #24.

Frosted Cherry Cookie and White Lemons from relentless. I’m mostly interested in the lemons. Reversed White hit to lemon skunk.

Afternoon all
 

packerfan79

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Well I just snagged #24.

Frosted Cherry Cookie and White Lemons from relentless. I’m mostly interested in the lemons. Reversed White hit to lemon skunk.

Afternoon all

The white lemons sound amazing to. I just couldn't swing the 140.00.

Does anyone know anything about this Loud n proud?
 

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I'm trying to lighten the load ... what about 12/12'ing my juveniles in "small containers" until they start to indicate sex? ... cull the males & then veg & flower out & take cuts from the females...is this a good idea, or a bad idea ? anyone actually done this? my goal is to get them sexed as efficiently as possible while not having to do an up potting till i know if they are females , or not...peace & good vibes to all:ying:

Im probably not the go to source for what all works best but here's my thinking on it:

I see the flip/revert/flip approach as a risk for light stresses that could lead to intersex/herm tendencies. It might save you a few weeks but I don't know how long you plan to veg these plants. Is it worth the risk if you're saving a couple of weeks.

I grow the seedlings until they are big enough to take a cut. Roots the cuts, transplant to solo cups while continuing the veg on the other seedlings. The time to root the cuts would be 10-14 d, the time to root up a bit in cups, another week, time from flip to show 2-3 weeks?

You end up with confirmed female plants that have vegged up 6 weeks and are ready to flip whenever you are with no prior light cycle stress that could contribute to herm tendencies. Plus, you already have rooted backups for all your females

Downside is that you get what you wanted to avoid: lots of plants and more work, but 42 of the plants will never get above solo cup size unless you want to keep bigger back ups. There's more expense too i guess as you're going to go through more medium, pots, fertilizer, etc. growing up lot of plants that you're eventually going to toss. Probably works best in small scale settings like mine

Is this for indoor or outdoor?
 

unclefishstick

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:bongsmi:just about done with my little bike project for the day...maybe a quick wash on the timberjack later...not supposed to get titanium mountain bikes dirty:)


everything is working on the bike,and aside from fucking up and trashing a 100 dollar rim it went fairly smoothly...good thing i have spare wheels...


just waiting for the chain to dry off so i can lube it...new chains come covered in some sort of magical dust and grit attracting grease so that needs to be cleaned off so lube will stick...




might be time for a pup nap since i have monkey butt over...
 

unclefishstick

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think the straggler is finally done and everything adjusted...time for a nap...been a tough day of screwing around with bike stuff and playing fetch with little miss i'm bored...
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star crash

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i'm indoors now & maybe can squeeze 6 months inside if temps permit...my thinking today is that the point of the seed plant starts is to find females & further work with them ...i need to conserve all resources & identify and get rid of males ...there will be no reverting , once they indicate i'll cull the males, take cuts from the females (for the cloner), up pot the original seed females and continue to flower those out & evaluate ...then i can follow & go bigger with the know clones later on ... is this a reasonable plan?
 

unclefishstick

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i'm indoors now & maybe can squeeze 6 months inside if temps permit...my thinking today is that the point of the seed plant starts is to find females & further work with them ...i need to conserve all resources & identify and get rid of males ...there will be no reverting , once they indicate i'll cull the males, take cuts from the females, up pot them and continue to flower those out & evaluate ...then i can follow & go bigger with the know clones ... is this a reasonable plan?


so out of 42 plants odds are you will end up with around 20 females...


me personally i don't think you can truly judge a seed plant until you run a clone of it...while the seed plant will give you a good idea of what its like in reality seed plants rarely get the best treatment in life as they tend to get rootbound waiting for them to show sex because no one wants to waste an up-pot on an unknown.add to that not getting the nute regime dialed on that first run,plus not knowing how long it's going to flower so having to guess a bit on when to flush...


so i like to have 2 cuttings of each seed plant so i can top one and run the other au natural...in the second run you should have a better idea of the nute regime and flowering duration...and in the first run you may be able to whittle them down a bit if there's any obvious under-performers although more than once the first clone run has proved me wrong on a plant i didn't like as a seed plant...




and even so,after all that time and work,out of 20 plants you will be lucky to find 4 really nice phenos...
 

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OvergrowDaWorld

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I'm trying to lighten the load ... what about 12/12'ing my juveniles in "small containers" until they start to indicate sex? ... cull the males & then veg & flower out & take cuts from the females...is this a good idea, or a bad idea ? anyone actually done this? my goal is to get them sexed as efficiently as possible while not having to do an up potting till i know if they are females , or not...peace & good vibes to all:ying:

I believe that keeping plants in 1 gallon pots until they show sex is the best practice....IMHO anyways.
Most seed plants will show sex around week 7 of veg. I wait to up-pot them till they show. Ive left seed plants in 4" x 4" square pots until they show. This is what Im doing with Hammers HK x TK testers. They are almost ready to show.... week 5.
Plus letting them get a tiny bit rootbound in the 1 gallon pots will thicken up the main trunks. They usually show sex before they get too rootbound.
 

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