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Diesel is coming from Chem and something else no one knows exactly what, as you should have read it is speculation not a claim like you are doing without knowing all the facts because no one know for sure.
I been growing/breeding with the real deal Chemdog and Diesel strains for over 15 years and anyone who has worked with strains that long knows the Chemdog and Diesel family very well
 

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I been growing/breeding with the real deal Chemdog and Diesel strains for over 15 years and anyone who has worked with strains that long knows the Chemdog and Diesel family very well
And yet you don't know what is the real genetic make-up of those plants because no one knows exactly what they are so stop pretend you know more than others.
 
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And yet you don't know what is the real genetic make-up of those plants because no one knows exactly what they are so stop pretend you know more than others.
The more you type about Chemdog/Diesel , the more 🤡 you sound
 

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Have you EVER ever grown a legit Chemdog or Diesel clone only , or even smoke any 😆 , dont try educate people on what you know nothing about.

A guessing game about Genetics is 😆, like i said earlier, strains are very similar in other strains as all strains these days stem from a smaller gene pool from 70-80-90's

Thai /Afghan/Skunk etc etc but 10,000 plus strains all stem from a small handful of Original landrace type Genetics , multiple combinations etc so pheno will pop up in other strains with similar traits , that is common knowledge , so trying to guess what makes up a certain strain is a joke , especially if you don't even know any of the strains your alking about
 

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I let other members being the judges of this pathetic interaction with you, I doubt your rep will improve with this attitude.

The more you write the more I see how dumb you are, speculating on the possible genetic make-up of Diesel has nothing to do with trying to educate others.Like I said I don't claim I just speculate, do you know your own language because it looks like you don't understand half the words I typed.
 
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People like you come in talking absolute garbage , and people like me need to come in and say it's absolutely nonsense, I don't care if that helps my rep or not.

Let's here from others who know the Chemdog or Diesel Line well ? , and if they think it's related to Jack herer 😆 🤣 , I never in my life seen a Jack Herer in Amsterdam remotely even close to any Diesel or Chemdog
 

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I really can't say I like either of those varieties more than the other. Lived on the east coast for years and grown/smoked tons of different chems/diesels, including the originals. And have spent much time in Amsterdam, smoked lots of jack, including jack flash, which may be my favorite of them. Actually almost got nailed by a tram the last time I was in Amsterdam, after I had just smoked a fatty of jack flash at the dampkring, took a couple puffs of amnesia as well.
 

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I really can't say I like either of those varieties more than the other. Lived on the east coast for years and grown/smoked tons of different chems/diesels, including the originals. And have spent much time in Amsterdam, smoked lots of jack, including jack flash, which may be my favorite of them. Actually almost got nailed by a tram the last time I was in Amsterdam, after I had just smoked a fatty of jack flash at the dampkring, took a couple puffs of amnesia as well.
I do not feel like the jack and relatives I have smoked or grown seem closely related to any of the chems I've smoked. Obviously that is just my taste buds and personal experience.

Had a friend stop me from walking out in front of a garbage truck in Chicago before a furthur show. High on L and Mdma. Truck was moving quickly and I surely would have not survived.
 

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I never in my life seen a Jack Herer in Amsterdam remotely even close to any Diesel or Chemdog
i never meant to start a fight, but i'm probably the reason we are even on this topic right now;

the only reason i suggested anything in the realm was i was talking about the high caryophyllene content in the chems... most strains, from what i've seen, DO NOT have high caryophyllene AND low to medium myrcene content.

even the OG kushes (rumored to be closely related to chems, and i can see why) often (ime) have myrcene as the highest terp, and probably my guess would be that MOST STRAINS IN GENERAL have myrcene as the highest terp.

chem is kinda rare in that regard, it seems to me... caryophyllene as the highest terp by far, and lower(ish) myrcene.

afaik, jack herer (yes, i know... the timeline) also tends to have high caryophyllene and doesn't have myrcene super high.

that, coupled with the kinda skunky scent of some or most chems (to me, anyway), as well as the speculation that they're descended from northern lights (don't remember the last time i had any, but they are apparently not super high odor nor super skunky)... is there skunk? someone else brought that up, but it seems to me to hold water. i'm no expert, btw... so go easy on me if i'm dead wrong lol.

idk, i just think it wouldn't be too far off to say that it was a haze/ NL/ skunk combo of sorts... the look of some chems often reminds me of american sativas, maybe i'm way off... just going by my (less than perfect) eyes.
 

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i never meant to start a fight, but i'm probably the reason we are even on this topic right now;

the only reason i suggested anything in the realm was i was talking about the high caryophyllene content in the chems... most strains, from what i've seen, DO NOT have high caryophyllene AND low to medium myrcene content.

even the OG kushes (rumored to be closely related to chems, and i can see why) often (ime) have myrcene as the highest terp, and probably my guess would be that MOST STRAINS IN GENERAL have myrcene as the highest terp.

chem is kinda rare in that regard, it seems to me... caryophyllene as the highest terp by far, and lower(ish) myrcene.

afaik, jack herer (yes, i know... the timeline) also tends to have high caryophyllene and doesn't have myrcene super high.

that, coupled with the kinda skunky scent of some or most chems (to me, anyway), as well as the speculation that they're descended from northern lights (don't remember the last time i had any, but they are apparently not super high odor nor super skunky)... is there skunk? someone else brought that up, but it seems to me to hold water. i'm no expert, btw... so go easy on me if i'm dead wrong lol.

idk, i just think it wouldn't be too far off to say that it was a haze/ NL/ skunk combo of sorts... the look of some chems often reminds me of american sativas, maybe i'm way off... just going by my (less than perfect) eyes.
To me and again like mentioned nobody knows but my opinion is either the NL, Super Skunk or even the 91 on to herself, any of those 3 can be the pollen that hit the 91 to make Diesel, but definitely not any Haze , zero detected ever and it's been over 20 years so someone would of found Haze like phenos in all the S1's people made and or released
 

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i never meant to start a fight, but i'm probably the reason we are even on this topic right now;

the only reason i suggested anything in the realm was i was talking about the high caryophyllene content in the chems... most strains, from what i've seen, DO NOT have high caryophyllene AND low to medium myrcene content.

even the OG kushes (rumored to be closely related to chems, and i can see why) often (ime) have myrcene as the highest terp, and probably my guess would be that MOST STRAINS IN GENERAL have myrcene as the highest terp.

chem is kinda rare in that regard, it seems to me... caryophyllene as the highest terp by far, and lower(ish) myrcene.

afaik, jack herer (yes, i know... the timeline) also tends to have high caryophyllene and doesn't have myrcene super high.

that, coupled with the kinda skunky scent of some or most chems (to me, anyway), as well as the speculation that they're descended from northern lights (don't remember the last time i had any, but they are apparently not super high odor nor super skunky)... is there skunk? someone else brought that up, but it seems to me to hold water. i'm no expert, btw... so go easy on me if i'm dead wrong lol.

idk, i just think it wouldn't be too far off to say that it was a haze/ NL/ skunk combo of sorts... the look of some chems often reminds me of american sativas, maybe i'm way off... just going by my (less than perfect) eyes.
I don't know how accurate the information on Leafly is but according to them it seems all of the modern strains are caryophyllene-dominant, interesting.

And from the classics: Sensi Skunk, Super Skunk..

 

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i never meant to start a fight, but i'm probably the reason we are even on this topic right now;

the only reason i suggested anything in the realm was i was talking about the high caryophyllene content in the chems... most strains, from what i've seen, DO NOT have high caryophyllene AND low to medium myrcene content.

even the OG kushes (rumored to be closely related to chems, and i can see why) often (ime) have myrcene as the highest terp, and probably my guess would be that MOST STRAINS IN GENERAL have myrcene as the highest terp.

chem is kinda rare in that regard, it seems to me... caryophyllene as the highest terp by far, and lower(ish) myrcene.

afaik, jack herer (yes, i know... the timeline) also tends to have high caryophyllene and doesn't have myrcene super high.

that, coupled with the kinda skunky scent of some or most chems (to me, anyway), as well as the speculation that they're descended from northern lights (don't remember the last time i had any, but they are apparently not super high odor nor super skunky)... is there skunk? someone else brought that up, but it seems to me to hold water. i'm no expert, btw... so go easy on me if i'm dead wrong lol.

idk, i just think it wouldn't be too far off to say that it was a haze/ NL/ skunk combo of sorts... the look of some chems often reminds me of american sativas, maybe i'm way off... just going by my (less than perfect) eyes.
Man you're not responsible for what happened with OJD, he acted like a stupid bully just because we had a discussion about the possible genetic make-up of a famous strain, that's on him not you.
 

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Man you're not responsible for what happened with OJD, he acted like a stupid bully just because we had a discussion about the possible genetic make-up of a famous strain, that's on him not you.
Get over the fact some people have more experience with strains than others , I been working and researching Diesel for 15 years so definitely know more than most unless they run it that long also.

You not even run a legit Diesel clone before so not very experienced to guess what lineages could ?
If you had run Diesel for many years I'd listen more but like I said you never even run a legitimate Diesel clone so you only pure guessing from Internet talk.

it's just a guessing game with no real input apart from a guess ?
 

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Get over the fact some people have more experience with strains than others , I been working and researching Diesel for 15 years so definitely know more than most unless they run it that long also.

You not even run a legit Diesel clone before so not very experienced to guess what lineages could ?
If you had run Diesel for many years I'd listen more but like I said you never even run a legitimate Diesel clone so you only pure guessing from Internet talk.

it's just a guessing game with no real input apart from a guess ?
You're acting like a jerk because someone has a discussion about a strain you've grown, that's pathetic. I have years of experience growing seeds of the Diesel gene pool , no need of a clone to explore those genetics since a vey long time.
In my first post in the subject I stated it was just a speculation and was not enough to claim the lines are related but it seems you can't read proper English. So we are not allowed to share our opinions because salty ojd don't agree, this is a forum where we are supposed to be able to share our experiences and opinions but bullies like you make this place insufferable
 
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The seed and clone are very different unless S1's of a legitimate clone and breeder.
Also yes you can have a different opinion but I can also air my opinion, and as stated working with the many Different legitimate Diesel clones for 15 years , plus making 1000's of seeds with these clones you learn alot about the strain.

Jack herer or Haze 100% is not in Diesel, ask any person who has run any Real Deal Diesel clone only , not any seed line .
 

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The problem is not your opinion but your attitude, you realize how dumb it makes you look to try to belittle other members? Laughing at posts for mocking them is pathetic for an adult.
 

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The problem is not your opinion but your attitude, you realize how dumb it makes you look to try to belittle other members? Laughing at posts for mocking them is pathetic for an adult.
Your pathetic for trying to drag this out
 

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Dinafem Dinachem. Supposedly the daughter of Chem 91, crossed to Guava Chem (Stardawg?) but who knows. Used to smell really fruity but less so now, has taken on a darker fragrance.
 
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