400w/Closet - Jock Horror - First grow.

[Random99]

oh yeah - definitely a girl. i saw it about the day after the last post, I have no idea how you guys were able to spot that lol...i guess it's just experience.

the sex hairs are getting long already! and she's stretching! I just tied her down for her second curve, she seems to be reacting well to the LST.

how much longer until I see the beginning of bud formation?

ill post pics tomorrow, i've been being lazy.

 

[Random99]

As I said things are going well with the LST, I really like the idea of it....plus it's promoting growth it seems like. Here's a picture update of her:

Top view:

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Side view:

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Sex:

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she's hairy!

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[Anima]

Heya R99!
Your girl looks to be doing well!
Ever think about taking a clone? see that branch sticking out just under where the main stem got bent? that one is about the right size. It's still early enough that you should have a good chance.
I recommend that you at least give it a shot so that you gain some XP. And plus if it works out, you will have another mom to flower soon, and you won't be wasting you time growing out any males. The jiffy pots (some call them rapid rooters) are just some peat moss inside a little fabric bag, you get them wet and they expand...all you have to do is take a sharp blade and cut off that little stem at a 45 degree angle, and poke it down about half way into the plug, and then wait about 2 weeks (making sure they dont get too dry) till you have roots, then you are good to go.

 

[Random99]

Nah no need for a clone now, I can't grow immediately after this. I'll definitely do it when I'm low on Jock seeds though, which will probably be the next time I grow it

Her lower leaves just fell off finally.

Gave her a tiny bit of Tiger Bloom with the water today



I got bored and took some pictures:

Of courseeee my female ended up being in the 3gal pot instead of the 5gal heh So I looked on the bottom of the bucket today and the roots are barely sticking out, so I knew I had to do something.

Easy solution!



I just put the 3gal inside of the 5gal, and filled the 5gal up with the exact amount of soil so it would be sitting at the same level. That way the water will drain out of the first one into the second, and then out into the pan...and she has a whole second pot to grow in!

Sound like it'll work okay?
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[Random99]

any guesses on how long she'll take to finish? she vegged for 31 days, and has been flowering for 25 days now.
i figure about another 35-40 daysish, what do you guys think?

any guesses on how much she'll yield? i have no idea what to expect.

 

[J-Roc]

Hi Random
i like you grow lots its randomly chillin.

as for ur girl ther.. no guess from me.. ide have to know the strain well..

anaways.. i gotta hangup now
talk to ya later
ok..
alright
bye bye now

 

[Anima]

Heya R99! yup 75 days or so for flowering on that baby.
I'd hope for an OZ...you might get more, or less...hard to tell really until you grow it out..(another benifit of cloning) It doesn't seem like it's doing bad at all for a sativa.
Your 3 gal into 5 gal bucket doesn't sound too bad of an idea as long as there are plenty of holes that are big enough for the roots to get through, but remember, any shuffling of the buckets could cause some root shearing..(don't want that)
Also, I'd lighten up on the N ferts...That "claw" effect of the leaves means excess Nitrogen I believe.
Also if it was me I'd just flush that whole 3 gal with water prior to putting it in the 5 gal just so I knew that I wasn't leaching a bunch of salts into the new bucket...
peace bro..stay safe

 

[Random99]

Ahhh I need help!

Okay, you're right, there's definitely some claw going on.

Now that the lower yellow leaves fell off, the ones that were directly above those are now turning yellow and looking the same.

I've been giving it only water, and I've given it Tiger Bloom twice (but only small amounts) mixed with water.

What do I need to do? What do I need to buy? I don't want to lose any more leaves.

here's some pics to help you evaluate

the new sick leaves:



and here's some pics of the healthy part so you can compare:



the very top leaves look the best imo. They are pointing staight up, no claw, very nice looking.

the middle all have the claw

and the bottom are yellowing as you can see.


if you don't know for sure, just let me know that and i'll post in the infirmary forum for a second opinion. i just want to get this taken care of before i lose any more leaves!

 

[Sardonic]

how did that fox farm Grow Big treat you? I think i'll buy some tomorrow ^_^

 

[Anima]

You aren't watering too much again are you? Let it dry up pretty well between waterings and check your pH! going in and coming out! and water thouroughly! it looks like you have too much of some stuff (N), and the plant isn't getting some others (Mg I'd guess)
but I wouldn't go adding epsom salts just yet, because it's probably lockout to begin with..
Just let it dry up pretty well and then water with water. Thats what I'd do..
what is temps like at canopy level?
and I'll make you a deal-You start taking pics using that T5 for lighting instead of that dreadful HPS, and I'll get you some closeups of my split stem AKxSD...
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[le4chnation]

lookin good, cant wait to see the final product

 

[Random99]

lookin good, cant wait to see the final product

hey man thanks! nice to know other people are watching
feel free to give any suggestions that you would do! i could always use extra advice


Also, anyone that can:

PLEASE HELP ME FIGURE OUT WHAT'S WRONG WITH MY PLANTS!
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[namo420]

random 99- you look like your experiencing a nitrogen deficency,wich shouldent be a problem because your flowering,and the claw effect on the upper leaves is a nutrient block(the soil mix most likely needs more aeration).

also...do you find your 400 produces much heat,or is it easily taken care of?

 

[Random99]

random 99- you look like your experiencing a nitrogen deficency,wich shouldent be a problem because your flowering,and the claw effect on the upper leaves is a nutrient block(the soil mix most likely needs more aeration).

also...do you find your 400 produces much heat,or is it easily taken care of?

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Awesome thank you for a reply I really appreciate the help.
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Okay, nitrogen deficency? That means too little nitrogen?
"Space Ghost" in the other thread in the infirmary said it was too MUCH nitrogen. so which one?

and how do I fix it either way, once I figure out which one it is for sure?
Is there something I buy to mix with the water? What is it called/etc? I really have no idea how to start to fix it, sorry, I'm pretty new at all this.
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As for nutrient block, would that be caused by my LST? if not, what is it caused by?
what steps do I need to take to unblock it? and what is aeration?
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Yes. The 400w does produce heat, and if I leave the closet closed with no fan on for the entire day it gets 90-100 degress.
But I never let that happen.

Every night I run my AC with the closet door open to 'reset' the temperature in the room.

Then in the morning, I close the door for the first few hours of the day, and then I open the door and have a fan blow INTO the room, forcing all the hot air out. Sometimes I will have the fan blowing hot air out of the room, but that makes my house more stinky so i try not to do that as much.

The heat DIRECTLY under the light is controlled enough by me. I have made sure to raise it the correct length, so that even if the fan is not on, it will not burn the tops when the are stretching.

If I had to guess, the average temp of the room 24/7 is 75 degrees.
The max I let it get is 85 and I always cool it down if it does.
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If you have any more questions feel free to ask
I mainly just need to know what to do to keep the bottom leaves staying alive
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thanks!

 

[Irie Islander]

Nice light , got mine from the same place. Should have got a thermometer/hydrometer, only $15ish (should have came w/ur switchable ballast, unless u got the timer)

Nutrient block would not be caused by lst, it is either too much of one nutrient in the soil, or your pH is very off (should be around 6.5ish, above 7 and below 6 can be bad. You take care of it by pouring 2x the amount of water your pot can hold (2gal pots get watered w/4 gallons of water), this removes all ferts from the soil (if it is a pH problem then you water w/ pH adjusted water and can put a dressing of calcium, or lime on top of your soil.

Nutrient buildup is when you feed everytime you water. The plant does not use everything and it sticks to the soil. You need to use straight water in between feedings to remove it, or else more and more will buildup.
Compacted soil can also cause lockout.

Aeration is putting oxygen in the water (or soil). Perlite helps break up the soil, makes it stay light and loose, so water can drain through and many pockets of air are within the soil, allowing roots to breath. If the soil is saturated, the roots suffocate (they breathe all the oxygen out of the water first). That is why roots can stay submerged in water, it is being aerated w/ air stones. You can also bubble (w/airstones and an airpump) your water, plants benefit greatly from being watered w/ oxygenated water. It also removes chlorine (poisonous) from tapwater.

 

[Sardonic]

how did that fox farm Grow Big treat you? I think i'll buy some tomorrow ^_^

you didn't reply to my question; but I'm guessing by your current predicament (nitrogen deficiency/excess) the fox farm isn't treating you so well. sad to hear it bro. good luck with your plants

 

[hazy]

R99
i'm having the same claw problem.
i think that it's described in mynamestitches thread on sick plants.
i'm not positive i get it though.
i flushed my plants and then they got a cal or mag def.
fed em a crushed cal mag zinc pill and they're better now. some plants seem to have flatter leaves now but some just keep coming out curled.

 

[bitchhitsbongs]

sorry i can't help with the curling, besides that looks like things are going good