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3 weeks in with Aptus shits blowing up around here..

abellguy

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I'm not sure why everyone here thinks Aptus is supposed to revolutionize their gardens.. It's a great line especially the fasiltor, but there's so much more to Jacks rooms than the Aptus. I think the tea has a greater affect than the Aptus, when brewed properly. I've vegged with fasiltor plus Caps tea (along with my usual formula), and am definitely noticing much tighter nodes and thicker stalks and i've not even gotten to the bloom additives yet. Maybe you guys just don't know how to properly control variables, or maybe you're just missing a dialed room. I can say with 100% certainty that fasiltor and Caps DO make a huge difference if one does a true controlled side by side. I won't speak for the rest of the Aptus line, but there's something powerful to be had from this combo.

Once again I have already shown how different phenos start showing much earlier then others until you pop thousands of seeds im talking thousands to find phenos that we have. Keep on hating I have never once said Aptus is the key to my sucess its a piece of the puzzle. I never said if you use Aptus you will have a room like this.. So keep your false comments to your self.

The reason why people are having a problem would be because of one the title of the thread being "3 weeks in with Aptus shits blowing up around here" instead of "check out this one of a kind pheno I have found" and two because when you read the thread it basically comes across as Aptus and Capulator beneficials is what is make shit "blow up" with a slight mention of his one in thousands of beans pheno he has. Now he is more standing on the later.

The thread should be about this one of a kind pheno that has been found and is able to resemble most peoples best and fastest growing phenos at three weeks at one half that time. Then the thread would be on point and not seem like a sales pitch for Aptus and Capulators. There is no hating Jack when as a hoticulturalist you are making extreme claims of speed of growth at time stated without much substantiation and people wanting to see proof. As has been stated before its out of complete respect for the plant to want to see documentation of that because that is something the world has yet to see.

Your rooms are awesome and there is no need to say that as you are already aware of that I know. You run a tight ship and there is no denying that at all the only thing in contention is what is stated above and I wouldn't call that hating :rasta:
 

TripleDraw27

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The reason why people are having a problem would be because of one the title of the thread being "3 weeks in with Aptus shits blowing up around here" instead of "check out this one of a kind pheno I have found" and two because when you read the thread it basically comes across as Aptus and Capulator beneficials is what is make shit "blow up" with a slight mention of his one in thousands of beans pheno he has. Now he is more standing on the later.

The thread should be about this one of a kind pheno that has been found and is able to resemble most peoples best and fastest growing phenos at three weeks at one half that time. Then the thread would be on point and not seem like a sales pitch for Aptus and Capulators. There is no hating Jack when as a hoticulturalist you are making extreme claims of speed of growth at time stated without much substantiation and people wanting to see proof. As has been stated before its out of complete respect for the plant to want to see documentation of that because that is something the world has yet to see.

Your rooms are awesome and there is no need to say that as you are already aware of that I know. You run a tight ship and there is no denying that at all the only thing in contention is what is stated above and I wouldn't call that hating :rasta:
So much nit picking, so little time.
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The reason why people are having a problem would be because of one the title of the thread being "3 weeks in with Aptus shits blowing up around here" instead of "check out this one of a kind pheno I have found" and two because when you read the thread it basically comes across as Aptus and Capulator beneficials is what is make shit "blow up" with a slight mention of his one in thousands of beans pheno he has. Now he is more standing on the later.

The thread should be about this one of a kind pheno that has been found and is able to resemble most peoples best and fastest growing phenos at three weeks at one half that time. Then the thread would be on point and not seem like a sales pitch for Aptus and Capulators. There is no hating Jack when as a hoticulturalist you are making extreme claims of speed of growth at time stated without much substantiation and people wanting to see proof. As has been stated before its out of complete respect for the plant to want to see documentation of that because that is something the world has yet to see.

Your rooms are awesome and there is no need to say that as you are already aware of that I know. You run a tight ship and there is no denying that at all the only thing in contention is what is stated above and I wouldn't call that hating :rasta:

Abell, the thread is about Aptus as compared to other nutrient lines he has used in the past. None of us are getting our hands on his phenos so what's the point in making a thread about it? Would be pointless..
 
However, Jack, he does have a point about substantiation. In order to back up your story you really need to show daily pics for the first three weeks. There's really no room for discussion afterwards.

Are you up to the challenge?
 

VagPuncher

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So, I've been using Aptus and have found 2 things to be very impressive.

1) The branching on plants is insane. I've run this strain a few times and it has never had this many branches and they have never been this strong.

2) I had bud sites form almost overnight. I was on day 8 when buds started appearing. Always have to wait till at least day 14ish to see anything if anything.

I am on day 12 so far and just loving the brand; If things continue to impress me I will be rock H&G with Aptus for every grow for a very long time.
 

jackmayoffer

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So, I've been using Aptus and have found 2 things to be very impressive.

1) The branching on plants is insane. I've run this strain a few times and it has never had this many branches and they have never been this strong.

2) I had bud sites form almost overnight. I was on day 8 when buds started appearing. Always have to wait till at least day 14ish to see anything if anything.

I am on day 12 so far and just loving the brand; If things continue to impress me I will be rock H&G with Aptus for every grow for a very long time.
This cant be true you must be getting paid to say this. You must take pics every 3 hrs in order to please the sheep.Im going to give House and Garden a run this round coming up. Im a little busy running a couple hundred lights sorry i do not have time to please all the doubters but I will continue to kill it and you will continue to sit in front of a computer watching me do so..Hope I was abel to help some growers out for those who actually like to learn. The rest can just post in some one else grow log.:thank you:
 

jackmayoffer

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Lets not let this thread get ruined and keep to those who have had good or bad results with Aptus. So far it has done everything as promised except stop stretch but Fasilitor does cause crazy branching and super bushy plants. I will deffiently look into what Paco suggested thanks BRO
 
First off, I'm not a damn sheep, I've been backing you up this whole thread. My only suggestion (and one simply out of my curiously for biology, not doubts) was to better photo-document the first few weeks to help illustrate and animate your garden. That's not hating or doubting, so please don't get it mixed up. I'm here simply to mediate between the ****s and the ongoing show, not to dispute anything about your results.
 

jackmayoffer

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Jack-I’ve been growing for sometime now, and had the privilege to see a great deal of large light shows, but your yields and complete uniformity is unparallel. Attention to detail is paramount in our industry and you are right at the apex. The closest we can get to your yields and flower development is via sea of green technique at 25 plants per 1k. The weaving of laterals between the trellis must be arduous work. Hats off to you and your team.
Thanks Bro lots of hard work we have found our yields go down in beds with 15 to 20 plants per light with veg time ovet 10 to 14 days if the plants are flipped rite at 14 days the nugs are super dense with no larf.
Until you live the dream and realise the hours he puts in.. Harvest must suck with those coco beds.
Harvest is not bad we hang the whole plant for 7 days
:good: Killer rooms filled with killer plants dripping with resin :good:
Super Inspiring every time I roll through this awesome thread :D
:smoke out:
Thanks Bro
Nice you still rocking that McFLy cut eh? Bet shes yieldin out the ass for ya! Did ya keep teh Candy Kush around? I lost that one and was hella bummed. Don't think she cloned consistently tho.
Ya McFly is a beast easly hits 2.5 a light with little work I loat the candy kush had the mom just die one day. I do have sone otheres i want to have u run plus its nice to know if we ever lose one we can get her back.
Jack,

I don't remember it being discussed earlier in the thread (yes, I read the whole thing at one point), but what light timers are you using? I've been using the gray boxes with the yellow dials (3x lights per timer) for 51x lights, but have had issues with the damn things many times..

If there are any spikes or power surges, one timer can offset by several hours causing serious harm to the girls. I have 17 of these timers and the weak link is that if any ONE of these fails, the whole room fails. It's happened several times (fortunately never total catastrophe) but I'm curious to hear from a guy like you what is the best solution for timers to be used with 50+ light rooms. I want something consolidated and digital so that there's only one place something could go wrong, and yes I'm familiar with most of my options, but I just want to get your advice. What do you use, and how do you avoid mess ups?

I would guess that you're going to tell me to just check them every day, but since we often go in only every other day (to water during flower unless there's other work to be done) there is one 24hr period where things can go wrong. Any thoughts or input? Thanks!
we have started ro use Solitek Matrix they have builr in timers we love them.

Jack have you ever checked out your teas under the scope to get a bacteria count and/or had a colony diversity report? It would be nice to have as a comparison for other growers. I work in a lab and bring samples to work all the time, it's definately beneficial to be able to track a tea's life.

Yes we have a scope and we check our tea weekly.
 

jackmayoffer

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Keep killing it jack. you look at the yellow bottles from OZ ever? FWIW New millennium Decision stops stretch dead. good for super sallys.

Never heard of them? Are these the yellow bottles from Australia? Any links are info thanks Bro.
 

jackmayoffer

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Jack, do you only use Massboost once per week?
i follow the Aptus feed chart week 3 -5-7 if i remember correctly Never have any deficiency and we run alot of finicky strains. The Tea really gives the plants an extra boost when we first transplant they will stall for a couple days when we foliar and feed tea they just explode Start Boost is awesome for root developmeant the beds are a solid root mass like a brick .
 

jackmayoffer

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First off, I'm not a damn sheep, I've been backing you up this whole thread. My only suggestion (and one simply out of my curiously for biology, not doubts) was to better photo-document the first few weeks to help illustrate and animate your garden. That's not hating or doubting, so please don't get it mixed up. I'm here simply to mediate between the ****s and the ongoing show, not to dispute anything about your results.
Wasnt trying to come off like a dick just seems kind of pointless to even post some times when half the post are negative.( Not saying you where) Lets get back on track and back to posting pics of:dance013: some fire...
 

headees

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I do but I mix and use rite after At most its in there 4 hrs.


Yea this is what I was saying. The PH rises out of control within hours, plus in two days you've got what looks like a pot of jambalaya.
Im just hand watering it in a couple times a week like you now, seems like the only way to fly.
I definitely see a difference with this stuff, although dont know if its the aptus or caps tea that is making the most difference. The fasilitor does make your nodes tighter and the plants bush out, also makes the stems fat. It slows the stretch, not sure if it actually halts any of it though.
Im running everything but the start boost, Im going to grab a bottle for the next run though, the aptus guys say it will shave a week off of veg time....
 

catalyte

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this thread, if it's not an advertisement for Aptus (no offence, it's in your thread title. ??) is the most impressive grow show on here at the moment. :yes:
 

draph

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clarification.

clarification.

Caps Nute Pack was tested by Plant Success. It had only 2 species of Endo not 4 and 50 spores of each not 100.

So I would stick with the Great White.

yo its cap.

I would like to see this test..

The nute pack has (and always had) 4 species of endos, each at the concentration of 100 spores per gram. The original packs were at 50, but since then the concentrations have been upped so folks could use less and achieve the same results, for the same price.

Glomus intraradices
Glomus mosseae
Glomus aggregatum
Glomus clarum

plus various NPK fixers and bacillus megaterium.

Also more clarification: I never sent jack any free shit or asked him to rep my packs. In fact I never even know he bought them until he mentioned them in his thread at another site.

What up Jack. You are killing it as usual I see.
 
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