3 weeks in with Aptus shits blowing up around here..

[headees]

Unknown if you are just using Fasilitor with all that stuff that is fine, its when you run their boosters you are only supposed to use their line+base exclusively, nothing else. At least this is what they told me.
Yea the fasilitor definitely slowed the stretch, and tightened up node spacing as well as bushing them out, but I think they have ended up at about the same height they would have without it.
So far Im not totally blown away by this stuff, I mean things are extremely healthy besides the PH issues Ive had, but nothing crazy. Things arent dialed yet, so Im sure that makes all the difference in the world. Only going in to week 4, hopefully they will finish up impressively. Its also a lot of extra work to change the rez every 2 or 3 days.

 

[Dorky]

XXX Bloom Base with full aptus lineup. Got some burn. Peaked at 2.3EC (1130ppm) during week 6. Next round not going over 2.0

Day 45
Blackberry


ADUB


Bubba

 

[mack 10]

2.3 ec! man thats high.hope you have some hungry girls. mack.

 

[wildgrow]

Gone through the thread. It took a few sittings so I might have missed it, The yellow 'cards' hanging all over the place - sticky traps?

Adding my kiss to your ass - I really like the cleanliness of your rooms. Nice tight cleaning regiment. Nothing like wet, moulding leaves on the floor to invite the nasties. cheers

 

[UnknownProphet]

I went to the Maximum Yield industry day with some friends and was able to talk to both Aptus and Heavy 16 reps; all were very nice and knowledgeable people. Heavy 16 rep even told me he'd set me up with their entire line up so soon enough I'll be very close to the same regiment as you Jack. Cap bennies included.

Also on the heavy 16's site it has an advance feed formula and that formula calls for 2 scoops of great white per gal up to 5 weeks?!? I pointed out that flaw and told him they should look into adding cap bennies instead.

AND FWIW The Aptus folks know about Jack's direct causation to their products recent interest, and no he's not sponsored as they get that often. IMHO they should be giving this guy their products for free as I know it's directly helping their sales.

 

[Dorky]

Caps Nute Pack was tested by Plant Success. It had only 2 species of Endo not 4 and 50 spores of each not 100.

So I would stick with the Great White.

 

[KeepItPushin]

Dorky, can you post a link to the report by Plant Success?

And.. before you go recommending people to use Great White (which IS a waste of money btw) do you own research and educate yourself, or you may accidntally come off as an irreverent dickhole. Caps are not simply added to the mix (like great white), rather they are brewed in a tea for 24+ hours that exponentially amplifies their bacterial life. First understand how Caps are used before you spew your verbal diarrhea all over Jacks clean linens and send us back to the kindergarten..

Cheers.

 

[headees]

Has anyone run Aptus in their rez with success? I thought I read Jack saying not to do that and I realize why now. This stuff is not very PH stable, and will coat your rez and pumps with bio film within 2 days. Im having good results with it, but I will not be putting it in my rez again, just hand watering it in.

Caps bennies rock, no complaints there. I wouldnt waste the money on Great White.

 

[NorCal]

Dorky, can you post a link to the report by Plant Success?

And.. before you go recommending people to use Great White (which IS a waste of money btw) do you own research and educate yourself, or you may accidntally come off as an irreverent dickhole. Caps are not simply added to the mix (like great white), rather they are brewed in a tea for 24+ hours that exponentially amplifies their bacterial life. First understand how Caps are used before you spew your verbal diarrhea all over Jacks clean linens and send us back to the kindergarten..

Cheers.

LOL no need to get your panties in a bunch on some internet forum. great whites brewed in teas as well. And either works perfectly fine. I've watered caps in and had good results but yes, brewing a tea will def get you more bang for your buck.

I like caps over GW because I get more for my money. As for the plant success tests I can easily see how that could be biased as they have their own line of beneficials as well. Now if it was a university study or something along those lines then I might be interested In Actually seeing it.

 

[Storm Shadow]

That guy CAP is Cappin all of you in the ass with his prices...

Here's the direct contact to all the shit he sells

 

[KeepItPushin]

Hey, it's a small price to pay compared to great white (which has nowhere near the biodiversity as CAPS). Yes, the ingredients in CAPS can be found cheaper somewhere. Obviously. That goes for anything out there, assuming you can make a deal with the raw supplier. However, for big projects that demand consistency, CAPS is a much cheaper alternative to Great White. At lest that was the point of my post, bus I digress..

NorCal, I appreciate your sense of humor.. maybe you just missed mine

 

[KeepItPushin]

Jack, where the hell are you?

 

[avant gardener]

3 weeks in with Aptus shits blowing up around here..

goddamn! i just priced this stuff out. for what it costs, shit better be more than just blowing up. it better be trimming itself and giving head too. pffffft!!!

that having been said, if the aptus people are reading this, i just want to let you know something. if you ever need anyone else to say all kinds of flowery things about how awesome your product works and you're willing to foot the bill for the nutes, i am here to help. message me and i'll forward my shipping address.

 

[abellguy]

goddamn! i just priced this stuff out. for what it costs, shit better be more than just blowing up. it better be trimming itself and giving head too. pffffft!!!

that having been said, if the aptus people are reading this, i just want to let you know something. if you ever need anyone else to say all kinds of flowery things about how awesome your product works and you're willing to foot the bill for the nutes, i am here to help. message me and i'll forward my shipping address.

Don't forget that you also have to be willing to state that your obviously much older plants are only days from flip with zero substantiation other than all I do is share my tricks and by the way look at my big room. He probably got a 5 liter set for free for running the thread or at a greatly reduced price

 

[cyat]

goddamn! i just priced this stuff out. for what it costs, shit better be more than just blowing up. it better be trimming itself and giving head too. pffffft!!!

that having been said, if the aptus people are reading this, i just want to let you know something. if you ever need anyone else to say all kinds of flowery things about how awesome your product works and you're willing to foot the bill for the nutes, i am here to help. message me and i'll forward my shipping address.

forget it, doesnt work in hydro..

i talked to the rep, he couldnt answer any of my questions, and really
couldnt say much beyond the brochures... so he gave my 2 sample packs..

tried em , didnt notice anything special

when u ask about the base boost they get even more confused and even say its just ok

 

[KeepItPushin]

I'm not sure why everyone here thinks Aptus is supposed to revolutionize their gardens.. It's a great line especially the fasiltor, but there's so much more to Jacks rooms than the Aptus. I think the tea has a greater affect than the Aptus, when brewed properly. I've vegged with fasiltor plus Caps tea (along with my usual formula), and am definitely noticing much tighter nodes and thicker stalks and i've not even gotten to the bloom additives yet. Maybe you guys just don't know how to properly control variables, or maybe you're just missing a dialed room. I can say with 100% certainty that fasiltor and Caps DO make a huge difference if one does a true controlled side by side. I won't speak for the rest of the Aptus line, but there's something powerful to be had from this combo.

 

[KeepItPushin]

Abellguy,

What exactly are you trying to get at here? Sounds like you are saying Jack is misreporting his timelines.. or am I misunderstanding you?

 

[jackmayoffer]

I read on the last page I think headees? said to only use base with Aptus and that's just wrong. I've been using an array of products along side my Aptus+H&G base....Amino Treatment, Roots Excell, B vitamins, Hygrozyme, Liquid Karma, Bloombastic, drip clean, +PHup&down...without any problems thus far (day 33) The Top shooter will start to be incorporated at the start of the next week....I'm around 1300+ PPM in a really hot batch, and I'm running a strain (GSC) that's sensitive and not a heavy feeder and I'm seeing no problems.

This is the smallest of 48 GSC at around day 25, also I have to say the aptus DID NOT control stretch and yes I doubled the dosage for 6 straight days feeding daily, probably wasted $100 just being the guinea pig on that one. To be honest I don't know how much is placebo and how much is my dialed room...I'm leaning towards the room.
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Also Nomaad you wouldn't technically have a run without silica when using aptus and base solely...there's Silicic Acid in the Fasilitor (Si) which is a nutrient transporter. But the more important micros are Boron and Molybdenum.

Are you running the full Aptus line or just Fasilitor?

2.3 ec! man thats high.hope you have some hungry girls. mack.

I would cut your base in half.

Gone through the thread. It took a few sittings so I might have missed it, The yellow 'cards' hanging all over the place - sticky traps?

Adding my kiss to your ass - I really like the cleanliness of your rooms. Nice tight cleaning regiment. Nothing like wet, moulding leaves on the floor to invite the nasties. cheers

Those are sticky traps so we know if we get any flying inscets.

I went to the Maximum Yield industry day with some friends and was able to talk to both Aptus and Heavy 16 reps; all were very nice and knowledgeable people. Heavy 16 rep even told me he'd set me up with their entire line up so soon enough I'll be very close to the same regiment as you Jack. Cap bennies included.

Also on the heavy 16's site it has an advance feed formula and that formula calls for 2 scoops of great white per gal up to 5 weeks?!? I pointed out that flaw and told him they should look into adding cap bennies instead.

AND FWIW The Aptus folks know about Jack's direct causation to their products recent interest, and no he's not sponsored as they get that often. IMHO they should be giving this guy their products for free as I know it's directly helping their sales.

I Agree.. Aptus should not tell people it stops stretch when it dosent maybe just Fasilitor but not with all the bloom boosters ..

Caps Nute Pack was tested by Plant Success. It had only 2 species of Endo not 4 and 50 spores of each not 100.

So I would stick with the Great White.

What about the Root and Foliar I have used Great White and Caps Bennies do not compare in my opinion.

Has anyone run Aptus in their rez with success? I thought I read Jack saying not to do that and I realize why now. This stuff is not very PH stable, and will coat your rez and pumps with bio film within 2 days. Im having good results with it, but I will not be putting it in my rez again, just hand watering it in.

Caps bennies rock, no complaints there. I wouldnt waste the money on Great White.

I do but I mix and use rite after At most its in there 4 hrs.

goddamn! i just priced this stuff out. for what it costs, shit better be more than just blowing up. it better be trimming itself and giving head too. pffffft!!!

that having been said, if the aptus people are reading this, i just want to let you know something. if you ever need anyone else to say all kinds of flowery things about how awesome your product works and you're willing to foot the bill for the nutes, i am here to help. message me and i'll forward my shipping address.

Don't forget that you also have to be willing to state that your obviously much older plants are only days from flip with zero substantiation other than all I do is share my tricks and by the way look at my big room. He probably got a 5 liter set for free for running the thread or at a greatly reduced price

Once again I have already shown how different phenos start showing much earlier then others until you pop thousands of seeds im talking thousands to find phenos that we have. Keep on hating I have never once said Aptus is the key to my sucess its a piece of the puzzle. I never said if you use Aptus you will have a room like this.. So keep your false comments to your self.

I'm not sure why everyone here thinks Aptus is supposed to revolutionize their gardens.. It's a great line especially the fasiltor, but there's so much more to Jacks rooms than the Aptus. I think the tea has a greater affect than the Aptus, when brewed properly. I've vegged with fasiltor plus Caps tea (along with my usual formula), and am definitely noticing much tighter nodes and thicker stalks and i've not even gotten to the bloom additives yet. Maybe you guys just don't know how to properly control variables, or maybe you're just missing a dialed room. I can say with 100% certainty that fasiltor and Caps DO make a huge difference if one does a true controlled side by side. I won't speak for the rest of the Aptus line, but there's something powerful to be had from this combo.

could not of said it better..!!!

Abellguy,

What exactly are you trying to get at here? Sounds like you are saying Jack is misreporting his timelines.. or am I misunderstanding you?

I dont even get what I would get out of this it makes no since to me but there will always be haters.

 

[Dorky]

They are supposed to be testing the Root and Foliar pack by a third party university within the next couple of weeks. I am supposed to get a copy emailed to me when its done. So we will see.


Personally I like the Fasilitator, Startboost and Bloomboost. The Peak, Mass and Finale I think can be replaced with some Calcium Nitrate and MKP.

 

[Paco]

Keep killing it jack. you look at the yellow bottles from OZ ever? FWIW New millennium Decision stops stretch dead. good for super sallys.