205w LED vs 400w HID Let the battle begin!

[komrade komura]

The cost of them is just soooo high. I would love to get outta cooltube hell in my cab.

Yeah I know the 'in the long run' argument. But in the short run it is a lotta money I am parting with.

Oh well...lets hope it works like most technology and becomes affordable to average folks like me one day.

Sorry....prolly not relevant...but I been reading this thread for ages now....checking the vendor site...always leave it depressed and go check my fans.

 

[Strapped]

komrade - Well hopefully enough of us will pick them up that the price will be able to come down. I personally think it's worth it for what you're getting considering the amount of money you could save diying the rest of a set-up.

It sounds like they have great customer service at HGL... if an LED is something you really want I'm sure you could call/ PM them and they might be able to work something out for you. It's at least worth a try

 

[oahi]

thanks for the side by side BLAZE i just picked up a 365w led with a 12' light mover i hope to get close to the same results as your grow

 

[Relentless]

The cost of them is just soooo high. I would love to get outta cooltube hell in my cab.

Yeah I know the 'in the long run' argument. But in the short run it is a lotta money I am parting with.

Oh well...lets hope it works like most technology and becomes affordable to average folks like me one day.

Sorry....prolly not relevant...but I been reading this thread for ages now....checking the vendor site...always leave it depressed and go check my fans.

+1

 

[sackoweed]

blazewun
Howzit brother..?? wowzerZ it does look like LED has caught back up.. this has been a fun thread to stop by and read thru thanx for sharing with us all.. I will stick with the light i can afford though but, one day like all other technology the price will come down.. great work as usual brother.. peace n pufs..

sackO

 

[asstastic]

There are lots of reasons to get LEDs, and whether it seems like much to you or not, they are more efficient per watt than HID. You could halve the wattage you're using and yield close to the same, or you could keep your same wattage and pack even more light in there, increasing your yield potential greatly while not changing your power consumption.

There are lots of comparison grows and LED discussion threads, check them out... how can you have an opinion on something that you're not really educated about?

Frozenguy's 126w LED vs 250w HID
LED - 1.17gpw
HID - 0.52gpw
(Actual wattage - 118w for LED and 300w~ for 250w HID)

frozen guy fudged his figures the plant he says is 74 grams only has 30 buds on the whole plant and those 30 buds are nowhere near a gram a piece go and check it out if you dont belive me
74 grams is 10 g shy of 3oz

 

[GrnMtnGrwr]

asstastic, I hope you're putting your visual weighing skills to good use, because that's a rare gift.

His test has been the most thoroughly documented, most fairly run that I've seen. Unless you have something to contribute, or some type of evidence supporting your accusations, you're wasting your time, and everyone else's.

 

[kava]

Ok. Well here goes. I have read through a lot of these trials (put on by stand up people) and found out a lot of info. I have gotten past all of the people who pop in to dramatize the whole ordeal. I have read between the lines of what the person who is putting on the show and grow. I have come to a large realization that they are actually suprised that this light has lived past there expectations (that they had at the start of there show and tell) That tells me that there is something to the light itself and the ability for it to produce a capable amount of product. There is also a training and dial in that is needed to the way this light operated (just like any other operation). Once the grower has the new operation dialed in (rethinking of needing heat instead of relieving heat ha ha) I think that there will be an improvment of their product and yield.
I would like to take my hat off to all the members that helped to show and tell about this lighting method. They didnt sugar coat anything and thats a good thing.
Wow I am sorry for taking over your thread Blaze. I thank you
Have a nice day and be carefull kava

 

[FreezerBoy]

sorry for taking over your thread Blaze.

I'll take the heat off you and hijack us a little more. For those who, after reading this thread, still think LEDs are not ready for primetime, look to grows by Sleepy, Hazy and Verdant Green These guys have all documented their grows and shown honest results. To say LEDs can't grow quality weed is simply a flat out lie as blaze and his compatriots have shown.

Yes there are still bogus units out there. Caveat Emptor and all that jazz. But, make no mistake, a quality unit can produce quality bud.

 

[asstastic]

asstastic, I hope you're putting your visual weighing skills to good use, because that's a rare gift.

His test has been the most thoroughly documented, most fairly run that I've seen. Unless you have something to contribute, or some type of evidence supporting your accusations, you're wasting your time, and everyone else's.

im just pointing out what i and alot of others noticed and those pics of frozenguys are are not true weight if you grew or consumed alot of weed you would know a ounce when you saw it
so i call bullshit
its not that i dont think leds can yield what he did its just frozenguy didnt yield what he said he did
i dont see a point in lying about yield especialy on a test grow

 

[AOD2012]

if you grew or consumed alot of weed you would know a ounce when you saw it

pretty amazing as i have been doing both for half of my life and i still am not able to weigh things with my eyes. ive also seen things that i thought were a lot more than an oz and wound up not being, and vice versa. thumbs up to you for having a magical scale for an eye.

 

[FreezerBoy]

frozenguy didnt yield what he said he did

Don't you just love definitive statements from those with no proof?

Did you hold them, weigh them? All you have is an uneducated opinion based on a complete lack of evidence. I've been doing this for more than 40 years and AOD is right, eyes are not an acceptable tool for measuring weight.

 

[green.is.good]

Awsome job Blaze!!!

 

[Weedsmoke4life]

i have a seen a few people growing with UFO's with relative success. HGLeds seem to be the best performing units, however the cost is kinda out there. For LEDgirl to say that 3x205 watt units will outperform a 400w HID at 30sq feet is kinda silly. That would cost you well over a thousand dollars in lights vs maybe $200. The commercial products available right now in the LED market are not cost efficient. I have seen some 600w LED units on ebay for around 800-1000 dollars and that almost seems worth it, and they quality of products is starting to look better as well. If you modify the search results to contain only products made in 2010 there are 7band LED's that even hit UV spectrum. I am guessing by the begining of next year the price will drop another 25%~

 

[ibjamming]

I saw a 90W UFO somewhere for $189...almost bought one for veg.

 

[MeanBean]

I saw a 90W UFO somewhere for $189...almost bought one for veg.

Knockoffs. You get what you pay for, or less.

 

[GrnMtnGrwr]

Knockoffs. You get what you pay for, or less.

People just don't understand this. They refuse to. All they can see is the initial cost. They don't consider anything else.

 

[Frozenguy]

Blaze, I'm sorry, this is all that will be said by me about this issue in this thread.

frozen guy fudged his figures the plant he says is 74 grams only has 30 buds on the whole plant and those 30 buds are nowhere near a gram a piece go and check it out if you dont belive me
74 grams is 10 g shy of 3oz

asstastic
Are you kidding me?
First off, if you're going to try and call me out, do it in my thread. Not in someone elses. You ask for a picture, I show you, and then you go off making up ignorant lies in other peoples thread? How about you voice your issue with me, if not in private then in my thread. And you're right, they aren't all 1g. You asked for a picture of a 1 gram bud. I did my best. Did you see post 144 on my thread? That nug was/is way bigger then the one I posted. That was a small "popcorn" nug you newb.

im just pointing out what i and alot of others noticed and those pics of frozenguys are are not true weight if you grew or consumed alot of weed you would know a ounce when you saw it
so i call bullshit
its not that i dont think leds can yield what he did its just frozenguy didnt yield what he said he did
i dont see a point in lying about yield especialy on a test grow

I dont see anyone else making any kind of comment in line with yours. So where are the "a lot of others"?
You think you know an ounce by seeing it over the internet? Wow. You must be loved in those "how much is my plant going to yield?" threads.
Point is you have nothing to go off of except that you have never seen/grown such a dense nug. That is why I was impressed with LED, because it essentially kept up with the HID in terms of density. Go smoke your airy bud bro, dont hate on the dense life.

An absurd comment, and not even to my face.


Again, sorry this got brought into your thread Blaze. Awesome thread and great grow

 

[gwenwon]

I really love this thread! All discussions go on and on, and on and on,between HID and LED. Maybe some facts could be the judger.

 

[mjg132]

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...anyone done a CMH comparison?