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2024 US Presidential Election

Who will become next President in U.S. what do you think?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 27 43.5%

  • Total voters
    62

greyfader

Well-known member
Did any of these mega-corps lower their rates for you, in light of their undoubted windfalls? No? So much for that Reaganomics trickle-down bullshit, I guess.
the supermarket price gouging orgy that began during the covid epidemic and is continuing today is being conducted by 3-4 major corporations.

i bet the ceo's of these corporations are golfing buddies!
 

moose eater

Well-known member
the supermarket price gouging orgy that began during the covid epidemic and is continuing today is being conducted by 3-4 major corporations.

i bet the ceo's of these corporations are golfing buddies!
Fear not!! Social Security recipients are now informed that they'll receive a 2.5% COLA for 2025. Takes a load off of MY financial concerns!!

Bwahahaha!!

Look forward to a LOT more geezers engaged in some form of black market activities in order to make ends meet, or sleeping in cardboard boxes in nearby alleys (now illegal in many places) to stay dry, or upping the frequency of Alpo in their diets, or having to choose which Rx meds they can 'live' without...
 
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moose eater

Well-known member
trickle down feels like someone pissing down my neck!
It's a part of the myth that when we properly raise taxes on these fucks, we'll simply pay more toward their bottom line, when, in fact, each market or item has its own built-in limitations on range in THAT market.

It's just an inverse example, that pleads, well, if taxes go up, then so do prices, therefore, when taxes go down, so do prices.

But somehow the reality falls flat.

We've battled that nonsense with our sold-out reps in Alaska for YEARS where or fair market value for our (jointly owned resources, among our residents, GASP!! SOCIALISM!!) oil is concerned.
 

greyfader

Well-known member
Fear not!! Social Security recipients are now informed that they'll receive a 2.5% COLA for 2025. Takes a load off of MY financial concerns!!

Bwahahaha!!

Look forward to a LOT more geezers engaged in some form of black market activities in order to make ends meet, or sleeping in cardboard boxes in nearby alleys (now illegal in many places) to stay dry, or upping the frequency of Alpo in their diets, or having to choose which Rx meds they can 'live' without...
hey, maybe i could offset my expenses by growing a little weed? it would be easier than stealing catalytic converters!
 

moose eater

Well-known member
hey, maybe i could offset my expenses by growing a little weed? it would be easier than stealing catalytic converters!
I allowed my weed market to dry up several years ago, and with increases in utility bills, and previously being a name in drug policy reform and grower circles, I don't miss that stress at all. Maybe the stacks of Benjamins, but not that stress, and having my shop door seem like it was coated in Kryptonite after a harvest was all gone and paid for.

But mushrooms are low-energy consumption, relatively low physical energy input, and the lights are far less bright and fewer. And I built a nearly-automated double-tank system years ago that's dying for a run around the proverbial block.

As a bonus, the prices here for such items are often relatively high (giving me yet another market to under-cut as I've traditionally done), and recent long-term study assessment places them as being superior in benefit to a/the leading new-kid-on-the-block SSRI, which means treating both depression AND PTSD. A banner win for me and others.

And there's very little 'olfactory evidence' with 'shrooms, too.

If I live through another year, I may recreate myself as 'Mr. Fungus'. Stay tuned. :)
 

Hiddenjems

Well-known member
i was thinking about the reasons someone would vote for trump. there are some obvious conclusions.

one is that they are weak-minded people who want an authoritarian father figure to just run everything for them. basically so they don't have to think. similar to the "uncle vova" phenomena in russia. i'm sure other authoritarian regimes around the world have their own version of it.

second, they are batshit crazy conspiracy theorists. this group can be divided into the ones who are participating as hobbyist, who just find it all entertaining. and the group who is so fucking stupid that they actually believe it all. it's amazing to me that, out of all the far-out theories that have been thrown out there, none have been proven. there's a reason they're called theories. non-proven ideas.

and lastly, and to me the most despicable group of trump supporters, are the ones who want him to win for financial gain.
How about oil and gas workers?

Here in fracking country laborers were bringing home 6 figures during trumps presidency.

There are legitimate reasons for people to vote differently from you. How about diversity of opinion?
 

greyfader

Well-known member
How about oil and gas workers?

Here in fracking country laborers were bringing home 6 figures during trumps presidency.

There are legitimate reasons for people to vote differently from you. How about diversity of opinion?
how about greed and total disregard for the environment?

and if you think trump is genuinely concerned about anyone other than himself you are deluded.

his support of policy issues is so transparently phony. he doesn't give a fuck about anyone else on this planet.

he is simply using the policy hot buttons to scare people into voting him back into power.
I allowed my weed market to dry up several years ago, and with increases in utility bills, and previously being a name in drug policy reform and grower circles, I don't miss that stress at all. Maybe the stacks of Benjamins, but not that stress, and having my shop door seem like it was coated in Kryptonite after a harvest was all gone and paid for.

But mushrooms are low-energy consumption, relatively low physical energy input, and the lights are far less bright and fewer. And I built a nearly-automated double-tank system years ago that's dying for a run around the proverbial block.

As a bonus, the prices here for such items are often relatively high (giving me yet another market to under-cut as I've traditionally done), and recent long-term study assessment places them as being superior in benefit to a/the leading new-kid-on-the-block SSRI, which means treating both depression AND PTSD. A banner win for me and others.

And there's very little 'olfactory evidence' with 'shrooms, too.

If I live through another year, I may recreate myself as 'Mr. Fungus'. Stay tuned. :)
i've always been interested in shrooms. it would be an interesting new "hobby" for me.

papaver somniferum for personal comsumption only is an attractive alternative to the pharmaceutical offerings and probably much less dangerous.

in the good old days in frisco we would occasionally get a little opiated hash from afghanistan. late 60's. it was probable about 30% opium. the blue haze and the sweet dreams! i will never forget that aroma!
 

Hiddenjems

Well-known member
how about greed and total disregard for the environment?

and if you think trump is genuinely concerned about anyone other than himself you are deluded.

his support of policy issues is so transparently phony. he doesn't give a fuck about anyone else on this planet.

he is simply using the policy hot buttons to scare people into voting him back into power.

i've always been interested in shrooms. it would be an interesting new "hobby" for me.

papaver somniferum for personal comsumption only is an attractive alternative to the pharmaceutical offerings and probably much less dangerous.

in the good old days in frisco we would occasionally get a little opiated hash from afghanistan. late 60's. it was probable about 30% opium. the blue haze and the sweet dreams! i will never forget that aroma!
So anyone with a different political preference than you is a bad person? That’s a fascist position.
 

greyfader

Well-known member
So anyone with a different political preference than you is a bad person? That’s a fascist position.
that's not what i said.

when your obvious motivation is greed even if it hurts others you are a "bad" person!

i have nothing against free enterprise. it's making money at any cost to society that i disagree with.

you seem to think that the needs of a few outweigh the needs of the majority.
 

moose eater

Well-known member
i've always been interested in shrooms. it would be an interesting new "hobby" for me.

papaver somniferum for personal comsumption only is an attractive alternative to the pharmaceutical offerings and probably much less dangerous.

in the good old days in frisco we would occasionally get a little opiated hash from afghanistan. late 60's. it was probable about 30% opium. the blue haze and the sweet dreams! i will never forget that aroma!
I grew opium poppies outdoors, down on the Tanana River in the early-mid 1980s.

Neighbors had a domestic violence call go in over a squabble that more or less involved the married couple destroying each other's windows in their automobiles, so the Troopers stood by (DV laws were different back then) and refereed to make sure nothing other than physical objects owned by the couple were harmed.

But the Troopers had pulled into the wrong drive initially on that dirt road (MINE!!), and rather than waste time pulling back out and going to the proper driveway in their cars, they parked at my place (unwelcome visitors, I gotta' say) and walked through my yard... through my rather stunted poppies.

But there's no real concentrated (no pun intended) market for raw opium, and the number of poppies that one would need to grow to go commercial would be somewhat visibly obvious... Like a commercial peony farm size project.

I was fortunate in that it seemed that the Troopers neither suspected poppies were present, thus weren't seeking them, probably had no clue what they looked like, were on another mission altogether, and mine were stunted to the degree they were literally 'low profile.'

Fun to grow, but not much augmentation to dwindling coffers.

'Shrooms, on the other hand....

And opium is scheduled a bit more harshly in the 1970 CSA, too, if I'm correct, though I'm not certain of that.
 
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moose eater

Well-known member
I rgew opium poppies outdoors, down on the Tanana River in the early-mid 1980s.

Neighbors had a domestic violence call go in over a squabble that more or less involved the marred couple destroying each other's windows in their automobiles, so the Troopers stood by (DV laws were different back then) and refereed to make sure nothing other than physical objects owned by the couple were harmed.

But the Troopers had pulled into the wrong drive initially on that dirt road (MINE!!), and rather than waste time pulling back out and going to the proper driveway in their cars, they parked at my place (unwelcome visitors, I gotta' say) and walked through my yard... through my rather stunted poppies.

But there's no real concentrated (no pun intended) market for raw opium, and the number of poppies that one would need to grow to go commercial would be somewhat visibly obvious... Like a commercial peony farm size project.

I was fortunate in that it seemed that the Troopers neither suspected poppies were present, thus weren't seeking them, probably had no clue what they looked like, were on another mission altogether, and mine were stunted to the degree they were literally 'low profile.'

Fun to grow, but not much augmentation to dwindling coffers.

'Shrooms, on the other hand....

And opium is scheduled a bit more harshly in the 1970 CSA, too, if I'm correct, though I'm not certain of that.
Actually, I'm incorrect re. the scheduling in the 1970 CSA. Opium is a meager Schedule II drug, and psilocybin is/was a Schedule I drug.

Who'd a thunk it? Maybe why even in many state statutes/schedules, mushrooms remained felonies for many years.

I guess Nixon was even more twisted than I'd previously understood him to be. He REALLY wanted to mess with Abbie Hoffman and the Yippie/Peace Crew, even more than I already knew.

 
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Cannavore

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Veteran
The definition of fascism by its inventor Mussolini is the merger of state and corporate power. I just said that demonizing the opposition is a fascist position.

“Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.” — Benito Mussolini

It is generally attributed to an article written by Mussolini in the 1932 Enciclopedia Italiana with the assistance of Giovanni Gentile, the editor.

The quote, however, does not appear in the Enciclopedia Italiana in the original Italian.

It does not appear in the official English translation of that article: Benito Mussolini, 1935, “The Doctrine of Fascism,” Firenze: Vallecchi Editore.

And it does not appear in the longer treatment of the subject by Mussolini in: Benito Mussolini, 1935, “Fascism: Doctrine and Institutions,” Rome: ‘Ardita’ Publishers.

Where the quote comes from remains a mystery, and while it is possible Mussolini said it someplace at some time, a number of researchers have been unable to find it after months of research.

It is unlikely that Mussolini ever made this statement because it contradicts most of the other writing he did on the subject of corporatism and corporations. When Mussolini wrote about corporatism, he was not writing about modern commercial corporations. He was writing about a form of vertical syndicalist corporatism based on early guilds. The article on Wikipedia on Corporatism explains this rather well.
 

igrowone

Well-known member
Veteran

“Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.” — Benito Mussolini

It is generally attributed to an article written by Mussolini in the 1932 Enciclopedia Italiana with the assistance of Giovanni Gentile, the editor.

The quote, however, does not appear in the Enciclopedia Italiana in the original Italian.

It does not appear in the official English translation of that article: Benito Mussolini, 1935, “The Doctrine of Fascism,” Firenze: Vallecchi Editore.

And it does not appear in the longer treatment of the subject by Mussolini in: Benito Mussolini, 1935, “Fascism: Doctrine and Institutions,” Rome: ‘Ardita’ Publishers.

Where the quote comes from remains a mystery, and while it is possible Mussolini said it someplace at some time, a number of researchers have been unable to find it after months of research.

It is unlikely that Mussolini ever made this statement because it contradicts most of the other writing he did on the subject of corporatism and corporations. When Mussolini wrote about corporatism, he was not writing about modern commercial corporations. He was writing about a form of vertical syndicalist corporatism based on early guilds. The article on Wikipedia on Corporatism explains this rather well.
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dramamine

Well-known member
From Cannavore's link, attributed to Mussolini:

"State intervention in economic production arises only when private initiative is lacking or insufficient, or when the political interests of the State are involved. This intervention may take the form of control, assistance or direct management."
 

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