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2024 US Presidential Election

Who will become next President in U.S. what do you think?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 35 57.4%
  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 26 42.6%

  • Total voters
    61

Zeez

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I’m not a fan of Kennedy’s positions on a lot of issues, but the work he did taking on huge corporate polluters was good work.
His new allegiance may cause a flip on that position.

Five of his siblings issued a joint statement.
"We believe in Harris and Walz. Our brother Bobby's decision to endorse Trump today is a betrayal of the values that our father and our family hold most dear. It is a sad ending to a sad story."
 

moose eater

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His beard looks so.....jewish :unsure:🧐
He was a 'settler' in a video I posted elsewhere a while back, taking a Palestinian grandma's house, and his (literal) remark when she complained was that if he didn't take her home, someone else would.

He's prospective compost for the garden, post chipper, in my 'hood.
 

RobFromTX

Well-known member
He was a 'settler' in a video I posted elsewhere a while back, taking a Palestinian grandma's house, and his (literal) remark when she complained was that if he didn't take her home, someone else would.

He's prospective compost for the garden, post chipper, in my 'hood.
Just like that? Moved right in to her house?
 

moose eater

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Just like that? Moved right in to her house?
Not exactly, but yes.

The settlers are often armed with USA-provided M4's, and accompanied by IDF escort, who further facilitate the land thieving/physical abuse/murders/rapes and generic violence and destruction.

The typical message in many cases is, we'll be back in 24-hours, and if you're still here (in your own home) we'll kill you.

So, yeah, more or less, just like that.
 

RobFromTX

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Not exactly, but yes.

The settlers are often armed with USA-provided M4's, and accompanied by IDF escort, who further facilitate the land thieving/physical abuse/murders/rapes and generic violence and destruction.

The typical message in many cases is, we'll be back in 24-hours, and if you're still here (in your own home) we'll kill you.

So, yeah, more or less, just like that.
Yeah i read all the time about the way the settlers act in the west bank. pretty sad state of affairs
 

moose eater

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Yeah i read all the time about the way the settlers act in the west bank. pretty sad state of affairs
Seems Castle Doctrine is the law in damned near every corner of the world, BUT Gaza. And if a Palestinian so much as takes a swing over this, they're open game for being put down permanently. Though in reality, they've been getting killed indiscriminately for decades with few to no repercussions or consequences.

And these are the people we're (the US of A; 'land of the Brie, home of the Slave') shipping (most recently) something like $18-Billion in tank shells, bombs, and other munitions to. Full-well knowing the ICJ has finally ruled that ALL of that shit is defined as war crimes, violations of international law, and violations of existing human rights treaties to which the USA is party, not to mention violating US laws by doing so.
 

xtsho

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I’m not a fan of Kennedy’s positions on a lot of issues, but the work he did taking on huge corporate polluters was good work.

Just shows what a fraud he is. He only took on anything because he was getting paid. Now he'll support trump because there might be something in it for him. Screw the fact that trump wants to roll back and eliminate environmental protections across the country. 100% sellout grifter. Him and trump belong together.
 

xtsho

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True nothing. Every day I wake up and am glad that I live in America. If those that live in America and don't like it there is an entire world out there. Take a out a map, find someplace better, and go there. Find out if the grass is greener.
 

buzzmobile

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touche'! what a great response!
Just doin' my part. This thing is not even warmed up yet.

I wonder about an October surprise and a post Labor Day ad blitz blasting from a nearby state besides my own home state.

We may need some Professional Joy.

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G.O. Joe

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I wonder about an October surprise

Something from the usual suspects is to be expected - Hillary style - my guess is they have absolute proof Walz is a Chinese agent, no spy has ever been caught more red-handed, details after FBI investigates.
 

Zeez

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They have already tipped their hand on screwing with the 24 vote counting.
I wonder what precautions are being taken for the foreseeable weaseling with the system.
 

Microbeman

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True nothing. Every day I wake up and am glad that I live in America. If those that live in America and don't like it there is an entire world out there. Take a out a map, find someplace better, and go there. Find out if the grass is greener.
To be clear, to me being a patriot is one who goes rah rah over their country; e.g. chanting USA!; says it is the best country in the world; says it is the only country in the world where I could become a success - on and on. This is not only moronic but is the very attitude which creates hate of other countries/cultures and wars; it is like saying one religion is better than others - just look at Israel and their patriotism.

There are things about the US and parts of the country I love - same with Canada, same with Mexico. Someone could drop me in the wilderness in Washington or BC, Alberta or Montana, Michigan or Ontario, Quebec or New York, Texas or Chihuahua and I would not be able to tell the difference. I can love the land equally. There are things I love and dislike about the US, Canadian and Mexican governments and their people, in general.

It is when puny minded people create allegiances which supposedly give them title above others that vanity and patriotism steps in and creates conflict, prejudice, pride in meaningless crap.

As far as the whole bullshit goes about only being able to become a success by working your way up in the USA, it is actually way more attainable in Canada. Personally as an American, I was able to do business with Americans better, easier, with less red tape and lower taxes from Canada. It is not quite as easy from Mexico but it is improving. I'm not certain about Europe but seemingly there are many financial successes - The European Dream?
 

moose eater

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To be clear, to me being a patriot is one who goes rah rah over their country; e.g. chanting USA!; says it is the best country in the world; says it is the only country in the world where I could become a success - on and on. This is not only moronic but is the very attitude which creates hate of other countries/cultures and wars; it is like saying one religion is better than others - just look at Israel and their patriotism.

There are things about the US and parts of the country I love - same with Canada, same with Mexico. Someone could drop me in the wilderness in Washington or BC, Alberta or Montana, Michigan or Ontario, Quebec or New York, Texas or Chihuahua and I would not be able to tell the difference. I can love the land equally. There are things I love and dislike about the US, Canadian and Mexican governments and their people, in general.

It is when puny minded people create allegiances which supposedly give them title above others that vanity and patriotism steps in and creates conflict, prejudice, pride in meaningless crap.

As far as the whole bullshit goes about only being able to become a success by working your way up in the USA, it is actually way more attainable in Canada. Personally as an American, I was able to do business with Americans better, easier, with less red tape and lower taxes from Canada. It is not quite as easy from Mexico but it is improving. I'm not certain about Europe but seemingly there are many financial successes - The European Dream?
As I've said before, I think some confuse toxic nationalism with real heart-felt patriotism... And real patriotism includes criticizing those things (and changing them) that need fixed, just as raising a child properly involves straightening their course when they're off the rails. Otherwise, no one wants to have anything to do with them later on, and they essentially become a menace, or a nuisance for others.
 
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Microbeman

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As I've said before, I think some confuse toxic nationalism with real heart-felt patriotism... And real patriotism includes criticizing those things (and changing them) that need fixed, just as raising a child properly involves straightening their course when they're off the rails. Otherwise, no one wants to have anything to do with them later on, and they essentially become a menace, or a nuisance for others.
So which ones are the USA chanters and 'ours is the best country in the world' and the other things I stated?
 

moose eater

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So which ones are the USA chanters and 'ours is the best country in the world' and the other things I stated?
In my opinion that's pretty clear. If you lack the humility to know that you couldn't possibly claim being the best at anything, or at simply 'being', without having sampled all there is to sample or know, never mind the subjective nature of such statements of personal bias, then there's a serious amount of narcissism in that, and nationalists represent a form of narcissistic disorder, albeit a group membership type of narcissism. Borders on group psychosis or group delusion. And the US has been steeped in this shit for years now. Utter fucking poison.

Same asshats that kill or bruise people over rugby or other sports scores, because their mind is Cro-Magnon, and geared toward Klan or Clan (take your pick) reality. Too little self-awareness or deeper knowledge to the extent that lacking a real HONEST sense of themselves, they cling to an external identity. Nauseating to watch most of the time.

Bottom line is that many/most in such cliques had nothing to actually do with creating any country, community or sports team, and are often taking credit for shit they never did (by simply living some place, usually), wherein their citizenship was mostly decided by which country their mother was standing in when her water broke and whose passport she carried.

Successful life achievements to boast or fight about? Hardly.

In that regard, I'm pretty sure you were addressing nationalists. TOXIC nationalists.

Edit: After numerous projects and knowing some highly skilled tradespeople (who you'll never hear bragging about themselves), it became clear long ago that if a tradesperson or anyone else had to brag about their abilities, they probably didn't possess the abilities they claimed to the extent they claimed. Such inflated grandiose assholes have cost me $20,000 on at least one job..

Thus, I almost never hire someone with 'Best' or 'Premier' or similar in their business title. If they're that good, their work will show it, and those who've benefitted from them will tell others about it. No bragging or bullshit necessary.
 
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