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Like get my one guy some its it which are hard to find around here but hus favorite , my other guy likes skateboarding so I got a custom glass pendent related to skating ...gotta be thoughtful
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It's not that I don't know how to treat workers. It's the fact I live on my farm, with my family. I don't trust anybody.
Been working non stop on netting, thinning out plants, foliars, fertilizing and harvesting. I will try to get some more pics up. Some plants are really starting to stack, and the AOG just keep getting taller. They must be 15' by now. In my large greenhouse, some of the plants are getting above the cross members which are 14' tall. Some beasts for sure. The killer queen has the most plant mass I have ever seen!
Been working non stop on netting, thinning out plants, foliars, fertilizing and harvesting. I will try to get some more pics up. Some plants are really starting to stack, and the AOG just keep getting taller. They must be 15' by now. In my large greenhouse, some of the plants are getting above the cross members which are 14' tall. Some beasts for sure. The killer queen has the most plant mass I have ever seen!
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Hopefully it was a mass of bud sites! I have some killer queen seed still..did you grow the seed out originally or do you have a selected cutting?
Sorry you don't trust any body. That sounds like a lonely and paranoid life. Surround yourself with people who have the same values and goals and you can all rise together
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Hopefully it was a mass of bud sites! I have some killer queen seed still..did you grow the seed out originally or do you have a selected cutting?
Sorry you don't trust any body. That sounds like a lonely and paranoid life. Surround yourself with people who have the same values and goals and you can all rise together
I grew out two packs years ago in my indoor set up. Liked the herb, my keeper pheno what nutty in flavor and smell. At the time, I had just moved in to a new spot and I was growing in a tent.....so no real experience.
Seen it grown by a buddy, but that was a cut from before the Rez and DG match up. Great quality,medium/large pineappley buds, and 54 day flower pheno.
This year I had one pack left over, and I only selected two females. Can't remember why, either lots of males or runty females. I grew almost every vigorous female I found this year. One is in my deps, and the other I cloned and threw in the deps, and is cloned off the full season pheno. Really impressive so far, but hard to reach in my deps. When I harvest the deps, I will have a much better idea.
As for finding similar values, don't preach that here brother. I actually act on it, unlike so many others. I moved from my home of 30+ years into a more like minded community. Was fed up being surrounded by useful idiots. Too many people these days are emotional weaklings, and will stab you in the back because: you have a different political influence, color of skin, you make more money, you have nicer things, you are in better shape, you get more girls, your grass is greener type stuff. Found a few true down to earth people here in the hills, but they can't waste their time trimming. They got their own farms to worry about.
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I grew out two packs years ago in my indoor set up. Liked the herb, my keeper pheno what nutty in flavor and smell. At the time, I had just moved in to a new spot and I was growing in a tent.....so no real experience.
Seen it grown by a buddy, but that was a cut from before the Rez and DG match up. Great quality,medium/large pineappley buds, and 54 day flower pheno.
This year I had one pack left over, and I only selected two females. Can't remember why, either lots of males or runty females. I grew almost every vigorous female I found this year. One is in my deps, and the other I cloned and threw in the deps, and is cloned off the full season pheno. Really impressive so far, but hard to reach in my deps. When I harvest the deps, I will have a much better idea.
As for finding similar values, don't preach that here brother. I actually act on it, unlike so many others. I moved from my home of 30+ years into a more like minded community. Was fed up being surrounded by useful idiots. Too many people these days are emotional weaklings, and will stab you in the back because: you have a different political influence, color of skin, you make more money, you have nicer things, you are in better shape, you get more girls, your grass is greener type stuff. Found a few true down to earth people here in the hills, but they can't waste their time trimming. They got their own farms to worry about.
I meant to get chores done on your farm! Trimming...man what a bitch. But I completely feel your sentiment about today's society
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Sorry about the repost on my tests. I was working with slownickel and it was easier for me to repost than refer him back 20 pages.
Orechron - Thanks for the advice. The only thing I would disagree on is the Micropak with my high boron levels. So instead I have been spraying with AEA's Rebound products: Mn, Copper, Zn, and Moly. Only problem is at what levels? The AEA thread recommends anywhere from 1-2ml per gallon for foliar, all the way up to 30-60ml per gallon. I really would hate it if I killed my crop because I sprayed too heavy on my micros. So I have been doing more often, low amount foliar feeds mixed with soil feeds as well.
Orechron - Thanks for the advice. The only thing I would disagree on is the Micropak with my high boron levels. So instead I have been spraying with AEA's Rebound products: Mn, Copper, Zn, and Moly. Only problem is at what levels? The AEA thread recommends anywhere from 1-2ml per gallon for foliar, all the way up to 30-60ml per gallon. I really would hate it if I killed my crop because I sprayed too heavy on my micros. So I have been doing more often, low amount foliar feeds mixed with soil feeds as well.
Mizer. You can kill crops at 4 ppm of boron. 2ppm application rates? Yikes. On the soil? On what soil? Where did that come from?
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11g borax = 1ppm of boron in soil tests per yard of material
I was shooting for 2ppm on my boron, the added boron in the PHT calcium wasn't accounted for and resulted in excess. That and my Micropak.
I was shooting for 2ppm on my boron, the added boron in the PHT calcium wasn't accounted for and resulted in excess. That and my Micropak.
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Well I'll check my books before I add figures it's 4 lb/acre target and 2lb application right? I may have made that mistake before. My last soil test said 5.34 ppm. They are far from dead though.
My apologies I'd hate for someone to use my crappy numbers. I
So I guess Logan takes tissue from you FF. They just shot down a friend so I didn't send a sample, she might have said the wrong thing.
My apologies I'd hate for someone to use my crappy numbers. I
So I guess Logan takes tissue from you FF. They just shot down a friend so I didn't send a sample, she might have said the wrong thing.
We have seen boron numbers from soil analysis at Logan that were not real when retested at Logan or at a real lab... haha.
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Avenger,
It was you who had the bi-line with all those great articles about medium. Tried to find those articles the other day and was pulling my hair out looking for them. Thanks for dropping in!
Those articles are very valuable and at the same time, very dangerous. When the University types talk about mediums, those are pure mediums. They are not Coots mix or some other foofoo blend.
In pretty much all these mixes, folks are throwing everything at the mix including the kitchen sink. At the point were compost or worm castings are added, we have a much different environment and cannot follow some of the Univ guys rec's.
What is your take on this? Are you pushing high conductivity like these are talking about?
It was you who had the bi-line with all those great articles about medium. Tried to find those articles the other day and was pulling my hair out looking for them. Thanks for dropping in!
Those articles are very valuable and at the same time, very dangerous. When the University types talk about mediums, those are pure mediums. They are not Coots mix or some other foofoo blend.
In pretty much all these mixes, folks are throwing everything at the mix including the kitchen sink. At the point were compost or worm castings are added, we have a much different environment and cannot follow some of the Univ guys rec's.
What is your take on this? Are you pushing high conductivity like these are talking about?
i think the comparison between peatlite mixes(university type pure mediums) and what most cannabis growers media mixes are, is alot closer than mineral soil, even calcareous mineral soils.
my real point to posting the links to those articles was to bring attention to the low CEC of peat based media per unit volume compared to mineral soils.
using the CECsum method from M3 extract analysis of these mixes to estimate exchangeable cations can not be very accurate, and i doubt changing to ammonium acetate@ 8,2pH would be much better.
Besides if all anyone ever considers is the base cation saturation relative percentages then a simple water extract has been proven to correlate very well with plant uptake when checked with actual plant tissue analysis.
yes, i would probably be considered to be pushing high EC.
my real point to posting the links to those articles was to bring attention to the low CEC of peat based media per unit volume compared to mineral soils.
using the CECsum method from M3 extract analysis of these mixes to estimate exchangeable cations can not be very accurate, and i doubt changing to ammonium acetate@ 8,2pH would be much better.
Besides if all anyone ever considers is the base cation saturation relative percentages then a simple water extract has been proven to correlate very well with plant uptake when checked with actual plant tissue analysis.
yes, i would probably be considered to be pushing high EC.
So far, on everyones analysis, even when getting to 72% Calcium, is getting reponse to more calcium. My argument is if you are low in Ca, there is a reason.
1. Over irrigating. Your medium article from NC calls that to our attention and is priceless advice to growers. More organic material like compost and manures, will only add to the volume of water retained. So far everyone that has lowered their water use considerably is loving life.
2. Lack of calcium overall since 68% Ca is way too short if there is no acidity. Math doesn't work, you need 82-85% Ca and then you have more roots than you have ever seen before in your life, with K and Mg and everything else booming. But this is where this new concept of [email protected] comes in. The golf course guys figured this out just recently. You won't find this is Albrecht nor Tiedjens. Read that pdf url I sited.
3. Lack of boron. This plant is like a few others, it seems to love boron. I have articles citing 200 upto 300 ppm of boron in hemp.
We have big issues in learning to dial this crop in. No real nutrient curves and responses per element to speak of. From there out, it is observations. But we can't get observations as no one wants to do leaf analysis on cannabis so it seems.
I too thought Foot hills leaf analysis numbers were real.... bummer.
1. Over irrigating. Your medium article from NC calls that to our attention and is priceless advice to growers. More organic material like compost and manures, will only add to the volume of water retained. So far everyone that has lowered their water use considerably is loving life.
2. Lack of calcium overall since 68% Ca is way too short if there is no acidity. Math doesn't work, you need 82-85% Ca and then you have more roots than you have ever seen before in your life, with K and Mg and everything else booming. But this is where this new concept of [email protected] comes in. The golf course guys figured this out just recently. You won't find this is Albrecht nor Tiedjens. Read that pdf url I sited.
3. Lack of boron. This plant is like a few others, it seems to love boron. I have articles citing 200 upto 300 ppm of boron in hemp.
We have big issues in learning to dial this crop in. No real nutrient curves and responses per element to speak of. From there out, it is observations. But we can't get observations as no one wants to do leaf analysis on cannabis so it seems.
I too thought Foot hills leaf analysis numbers were real.... bummer.
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