2015 on the Chernozem - Panama, Zamaldelica, Thai, Nepal Jam, Sweet Tooth, Stardawg

[yoss33]

Hi there!
Yesterday, the 3rd of October, I harvested the Sweet Tooth and SSSDH. Both could do at least a few days longer, I'm sure some people would let them both at least a week or 2 more, the SSSDH was even pushing new pistils, but in the same time its trichomes were mostly foggy under the lens and on my last try of a small bud smoked during the course of a day, it wasn't as energetic as the previous time picked a week before that. Flavor was also a bit more earthy, which does no good to the unique flavor of this bud. And since I want my smoke more energetic, it was harvested.
The Sweet Tooth had botritys on a few places, including the middle of one of the 4 main colas, which also helped my decision to cut.
Anyways, these 2 plants managed to fill nicely, mature well and I consider a complete success

Some photos of the 2 plants right before harvest, starting with the Sweet Tooth:

 

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The Ojd's cut of SSSDH:

 

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Now, the sativas, which are going on and, according to the forecasts, will have 3 more good warm days before a cold wave comes and the temperatures drop.

Zamaldelica and Panama #4

Zamaldelica
I have tried on several occasions the dried top of a small broken branch and I like the effect. I can't sense the complex dark-but-crazy trippiness of the best Zamaldelica plant I've tried. Instead, it's a more positive energetic experience, a somewhat similar kind of high to the SSSDH, but cleaner and even more focused. I think it will suit the role of daily functional weed, which I need after I finish my last 2 jars of Haze which I used to mix with a Malawi-leaning Zamaldelica (50%, 50%) for the best functional effect in small doses. After I finished the stash of Zamaldelica, I mix my Haze with a Bangi Haze, grown by a friend. The Haze in itself is perfect weed, but gets me a bit too high and mellow after 3 years of curing in the jars, and needs to be mixed with something more focused and energetic, in order to become what it was 2 years ago in its prime of effect.
I hope this monster of a plant will manage to mature before collapsing under its weight. Branches are getting heavy..

 

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Panama #4

 

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Panama #5

 

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And finally, the Thai:

 

[ThaiBliss]

Wicked!!!

It looks like it needs some of that Zamaldelica in it to hurry it up, without compromise.

Sounds like your friend found a good Bangi Haze that might actually work better.

Great work Sir!



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[Gemüse]

Great views

Great views

Hey Yoss!
Great views on the grow spots I wish you all the best for the upcoming harvests beautyfull plants all along, also like your Smoking style and smokereport, enjoyable read with some fresh Nepal-Jam in the small vaporizer.
greetings gemüse

 

[yoss33]

Hi guys, and thank you for chiming in! I'm late at replying because I've been quite busy with trying all these strains, hehe. I also try to test a small bud of each plant at every week of flowering to see how the effect develops, as much as a quickly-dried small bud allows.

Wicked!!!

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It looks like it needs some of that Zamaldelica in it to hurry it up, without compromise.

Sounds like your friend found a good Bangi Haze that might actually work better.

Great work Sir!



ThaiBliss

Hey, I also think Zamaldelica, with its great flowering and potency, is a good mate to any pure sativa, and this Thai definitely needs some crossing in order to be suitable for my climate. But let's see, I'm very curious how its flowers will smell, with this delicious stem smell.
As for Bangi Haze, I've smoked 2 BHs - one indoor and one outdoor-grown. Both with a similar smell and high - speedy energetic and focused, without anxiety. Good strain, considering its fast flowering. Yet, I prefer Zamaldelica, which is also focused, but stronger and more complex. I like to mix Haze and other dreamy strains (like Panama) with such focused strains in order to make them not so dreamy and more functional. The mix usually feels weaker than both ingredients, but is perfect for complex daily activities.

Hey Yoss!
Great views on the grow spots I wish you all the best for the upcoming harvests beautyfull plants all along, also like your Smoking style and smokereport, enjoyable read with some fresh Nepal-Jam in the small vaporizer.
greetings gemüse

Hey, Gemüse, hope you are enjoying the Nepalese vapors My NepalJam has a thick yet smooth smoke and nice sweet taste. Not very flavorful on my daily pipe, but the smoothness compensates.

 

[yoss33]

Yesterday (13th of October) I harvested Panama #5. The weather has been very bad the last week, and so the plant didn't have luck to capture much sunlight. We had temperatures a few degrees above freezing point and all P#5's pistils' tips turned red and are dying. Few of the trichomes are clear, most are cloudy. The effect of the last tester bud was great - smooth, positive and mental, still not enough powerful to become "dense", at least at my current level of tolerance. And since my tolerance is not very low with all this testing, I decided that this Panama is powerful enough and harvested. The drying branches quickly filled the room with a strong pleasant flowery smell with some dank hash&spice notes. This plant is as smelly as the SSSDH and Stardawg.

 

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I'm very pleased with this plant and what it yielded. It would have performed much better if it was at a better place with more sun and better soil. Even with a 2-meter plant, I'll have lots of trimming to do, though.

 

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Now, the other sativas..

Thai

 

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Panama #4 and Zamaldelica
These plants stay so so green, which is unexpected, considering they have been fertizilized only once (foliar feed of a little N in July) during their 6 months outside. Could be the pile of dumped garden waste behind Zam?

Zamaldelica

This branch seems to have been "topped" by a stem borer:

 

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Panama #4

One of the buds was harvested because it had botrytis inside. The bud looked perfect on the outside, only a suspiciously brown leaf was poking:

 

[ThaiBliss]

...this Thai definitely needs some crossing in order to be suitable for my climate. But let's see, I'm very curious how its flowers will smell, with this delicious stem smell.

... I prefer Zamaldelica, which is also focused, but stronger and more complex.

Hi Yoss33,

If I could clarify what I meant. I believe Bangi Haze might be a better match to the Thai, not because I think the high is preferred to the Zamaldelica, but because the Bangi Haze might bring the Thai ripening date closer to where the offspring might survive your climate. If I remember correctly, the Zamaldelica just barely makes it to full ripeness at your location. Given that the Thai ripens much later than Zamaldelica, I don't think that pairing would get the offspring to ripen early enough. However, since I consider Thai to have so much potential, the high of the Bangi Haze crossed to Thai might rival the Zamaldelica.

I'm just musing about possible breeding scenarios, even though I believe you said that you don't make seeds.

I love to watch your Thai, and all your other plants, develop, even if they don't make it to full maturity. You are a good grower, and you take wonderful pictures.


ThaiBliss

 

[yoss33]

Hiya! I don't think I need to sacrifice quality for fast flowering as much as crossing with Bangi Haze.
There's so much gambling when dealing with weather - it varies considerably between years. If I aim to be on the safe side every year, i.e. be prepared for the worst season, my choice will be so limited. But it doesn't have to be, as most years are much better than the worst one and I don't need to harvest every year, as I have enough stash.
Zamaldelica is flowering all fine here, maybe will not finish well 1 in 5 years. My failure in 2013 was my fault with neglecting support. Being the strong and resistant plant Zamaldelica is, I think it can't pass only the worst of the worst seasons here. What's good about these more extreme sativas is that due to their fluffiness they don't have any problems with a few days of constant rain. The really bad weather that will slow the plants' growth to a stop usually comes in the second half of November, in the lucky years - December. So, why cross with Bangi Haze with its 1st of October harvest... I think, the best balance between chances for success and quality in my climate is something between Zamaldelica/Panama (second half of October) and Haze/Thais (December). Even in bad years, I'll have immature bud which I don't mind - I find immature bud of an extreme sativa better than anything else no matter how ripe. I'm really interested to see what you think of the high of the Haze x Panama individual you have I might give it a try next year.

I don't know why it so happens lately that I spend time here on the forum, but only reading, many times wanting to say something but it goes only in my head. And just now, after 3 hits of 50%-50% mix of Haze and a dry sample of Panama #5, I feel like taking the time to write a longer post. Some of these Panamas have a high quality trippy but social effect and OTHaze x Panama must be a treasure chest to select from.

Thanks again for the nice words and contribution to this thread!

 

[yoss33]

Some photos from yesterday. These will be perhaps the last ones for Panama #4 and Zamaldelica as I plant to harvest them both tomorrow. They could do a little longer, weather forecasts are not bad, but both plants seem ripe enough for my liking. The trichomes of Panama #4 and 50% clear, 50% cloudy, the ones of Zamaldelica - mostly cloudy.


Panama #4

 

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