drummerlars
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yeah pics would be good
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2000watt bio shed
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Neptune
damn look at those plants on the far right!! Overvegged I would say, fuckin' huge!!
If you have a spare 400w, lay that verticle next to those bushes
The bluedot is looking sweet midtown, very nice.
This system is totally impressing me.... any signs of root rot?
how are your temps and do you run a chiller? (sorry if you already answered !
If you have a spare 400w, lay that verticle next to those bushes
The bluedot is looking sweet midtown, very nice.
This system is totally impressing me.... any signs of root rot?
how are your temps and do you run a chiller? (sorry if you already answered !
mushupork5
Member
midtown, that is rediculous!!! nice job with teh bio bucket SOG, those STALKS are HUGE
MID TOWN
Active member
DRUMMERLARS, MUSHU- thanks for the props, stick arround this should be a good harvest.
NEPTUNE- I know what ya mean they were deffinately a little overveged but I needed to let the urkles fill out and I don't think It's gonna affect enything too much. Next time depending on what strains I use, i'll probably put the urkles in the system about a week before every thing else.
I do have another 400 watt but it's hangin over my mothers right now. they'll be done flowering in about 2 weeks so I'll throw it in then but it may be to late to make a difference. next time I'll probably hang it on a mover on the out side edge durring flower and get couple flouros for my moms.
yea I'm realy impressed with the blue dot, it by far smells better than anything else in the garden and it's filling in realy quickly. I'll definately be growing this again next round.
no signs of root rot but my stalks were getting kind of soft when I had the pump runing 24/7. I switched the pump to come one once a day for a half hour to circulate nutes and top off wich lets the medium dry out and eliminated that problem. I don't run a chiller now but I'll probaly get one for the next batch. my nute temps get up to about 73 max, not bad but it could be better.
CHUCKELBERRY- here ya go, it's bassicaly just T-fittings and shut off valves hooked up to cut pieces of a garden hose with a 90 degree bend into the bucket.
also, Instead of using any hot glue and silicone anymore I ordered a bunch of these uniseals. they come in like every size and I've test fitted them on some shit and they work GREAT. definately worth ordering, I'm gonna use these for everything next time.
NEPTUNE- I know what ya mean they were deffinately a little overveged but I needed to let the urkles fill out and I don't think It's gonna affect enything too much. Next time depending on what strains I use, i'll probably put the urkles in the system about a week before every thing else.
I do have another 400 watt but it's hangin over my mothers right now. they'll be done flowering in about 2 weeks so I'll throw it in then but it may be to late to make a difference. next time I'll probably hang it on a mover on the out side edge durring flower and get couple flouros for my moms.
yea I'm realy impressed with the blue dot, it by far smells better than anything else in the garden and it's filling in realy quickly. I'll definately be growing this again next round.
no signs of root rot but my stalks were getting kind of soft when I had the pump runing 24/7. I switched the pump to come one once a day for a half hour to circulate nutes and top off wich lets the medium dry out and eliminated that problem. I don't run a chiller now but I'll probaly get one for the next batch. my nute temps get up to about 73 max, not bad but it could be better.
CHUCKELBERRY- here ya go, it's bassicaly just T-fittings and shut off valves hooked up to cut pieces of a garden hose with a 90 degree bend into the bucket.
also, Instead of using any hot glue and silicone anymore I ordered a bunch of these uniseals. they come in like every size and I've test fitted them on some shit and they work GREAT. definately worth ordering, I'm gonna use these for everything next time.
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MID-town looking great. Very nice indeed.
Back 2 months or so you showed pick of a blue rhino leaf that had some burn on it. Just out of curiosity, did you just paint the room before this run?
Reason i throw this out there is because i had 2 incidents before with very similar leaf lesions, they do look like nute burn, but in my case it was from afreshly painted room.
Just recently I waited 5 days before i put anything in my mother/clone cab. Put everyone in their new home 5 days after painting,12hrs later, brown lesions all in the center of the leaf in between the veins.It did not smell of paint when they where put in. When the lights heated and humidity started to rise, the smell came back. If effect mainly only fan leaves. I guess i would say the "meat" of the leaf it attacked.
Just figured i'd throw it there, for you or anyone else reading. Never seen it listed as an alternative to nute burn type lesions. But looks the same, i can vouch for that. To make quick ending, they all look fantastic now.
In your last grows that you had issues with rot, ,what did you use as a media? What size pump and how many buckets? did you ever consider rooting in perlite then dropping right in the lava? Medialess. im trying medialess now.
What size pump you running now?
In Any case. Nice and clean setup.Hats off ...
Mid-town, Another thing, i deem myself as no expert by far when it comes to growing or bio-buckets for that matter. But one thing, in theory it seems to hold some serious truth in theory, next build try this idea, or anyone else who may be reading for that matter.
Problem: When you ran the feed line along the floor, then tee'd to the 3/4 valve and up to the bucket inlet, you have what looks around 2 ft of rubber hose extending up to the bucket.
Now think this, every bucket you have 2 ft of head, times it by 8 buckets, now you have 16ft of head the pump is working against. 16ft of plumbing of at 8.3lbs per gallon of water, probaly say 3 gallons in your rubber hose equalling 25 lbs of water pushing down against the pump!plus the pvc plumbing, theres probably say atleast 7 or so gallons working against the pump as well. So say 10 gallons for refernce, thats 83 pounds of water!!!!!
your 1000gph pump, now becomes 700gph, maybe more or less. I am not sure how to calculate this other then draining a bucket totally,no roots, then opening the valve and counting how long it takes to fill the approx 5 gallons.Doing some more math and you get the picture.
Solution: Run the feed right out of the pump to 2 inchs higher then first inlet. Or bring it over to the first bucket along the floor,then up 2 in above the first inlet.
This way the water is only lifted ****1 time ****. Then slowly slope the water down towards the last bucket. the exact same idea as your return pipe! But running away from your rez, not towards.Its all down hill after the first lift!!!
You also save 16ft of rubber hose, you already run the pvc on the floor, so why not tee of that directly..
Im thinking this will greatly increase the GPH of the pump more then the standard design. I am no expert, but this could be serious beneficial tweek in design.
Any thoughts?
B-safe
Back 2 months or so you showed pick of a blue rhino leaf that had some burn on it. Just out of curiosity, did you just paint the room before this run?
Reason i throw this out there is because i had 2 incidents before with very similar leaf lesions, they do look like nute burn, but in my case it was from afreshly painted room.
Just recently I waited 5 days before i put anything in my mother/clone cab. Put everyone in their new home 5 days after painting,12hrs later, brown lesions all in the center of the leaf in between the veins.It did not smell of paint when they where put in. When the lights heated and humidity started to rise, the smell came back. If effect mainly only fan leaves. I guess i would say the "meat" of the leaf it attacked.
Just figured i'd throw it there, for you or anyone else reading. Never seen it listed as an alternative to nute burn type lesions. But looks the same, i can vouch for that. To make quick ending, they all look fantastic now.
In your last grows that you had issues with rot, ,what did you use as a media? What size pump and how many buckets? did you ever consider rooting in perlite then dropping right in the lava? Medialess. im trying medialess now.
What size pump you running now?
In Any case. Nice and clean setup.Hats off ...
Mid-town, Another thing, i deem myself as no expert by far when it comes to growing or bio-buckets for that matter. But one thing, in theory it seems to hold some serious truth in theory, next build try this idea, or anyone else who may be reading for that matter.
Problem: When you ran the feed line along the floor, then tee'd to the 3/4 valve and up to the bucket inlet, you have what looks around 2 ft of rubber hose extending up to the bucket.
Now think this, every bucket you have 2 ft of head, times it by 8 buckets, now you have 16ft of head the pump is working against. 16ft of plumbing of at 8.3lbs per gallon of water, probaly say 3 gallons in your rubber hose equalling 25 lbs of water pushing down against the pump!plus the pvc plumbing, theres probably say atleast 7 or so gallons working against the pump as well. So say 10 gallons for refernce, thats 83 pounds of water!!!!!
your 1000gph pump, now becomes 700gph, maybe more or less. I am not sure how to calculate this other then draining a bucket totally,no roots, then opening the valve and counting how long it takes to fill the approx 5 gallons.Doing some more math and you get the picture.
Solution: Run the feed right out of the pump to 2 inchs higher then first inlet. Or bring it over to the first bucket along the floor,then up 2 in above the first inlet.
This way the water is only lifted ****1 time ****. Then slowly slope the water down towards the last bucket. the exact same idea as your return pipe! But running away from your rez, not towards.Its all down hill after the first lift!!!
You also save 16ft of rubber hose, you already run the pvc on the floor, so why not tee of that directly..
Im thinking this will greatly increase the GPH of the pump more then the standard design. I am no expert, but this could be serious beneficial tweek in design.
Any thoughts?
B-safe
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rule35sub1
looking good bro, they all look happy
Chuckleberry
Member
Thanks Midtown simple enough about what i was thinking but with smaller hose.
drummerlars
Member
hay midtown what parts of the bio system are you going to use the uniseals on??
top grow mate
top grow mate
Multiple strains
Multiple strains
just another thought, when you run multiple strains in the system, as some require more nutes then others, you can always just foliar feed the ones asking for more nutes.
Looks like things are under control . Ahhh just some more of my
Looking great.
B-safe
Multiple strains
just another thought, when you run multiple strains in the system, as some require more nutes then others, you can always just foliar feed the ones asking for more nutes.
Looks like things are under control . Ahhh just some more of my
Looking great.
B-safe
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MID TOWN
Active member
GMANWHO- No fresh paint, it was definately just a slight nute burn. but I could see how you might get some negative affects from the fumes of fresh paint.
last time I had 9 buckets hooked up to a 1000gph pump and I already use an aeroponic cloner.
I'm sure the idea of only having 1 upward run would help the efficiency of the pump but it only takes about 2 minutes to fill all the buckets all the way. so thats an exchange rate of about 30 times an hour. more than nessecary. plus I use airstones and I'm only using the water pump to circulate nutes. I personaly got root rot twice with the bio system and have seen at least 3 other people get root rot so I don't run a bio-bucket system anymore just recirculating DWC.
I like your idea of foliar feeding the ones that need a stronger dose of nutes. I might have to try that out.
CHUCKELBERRY, RULE35SUB1- thanks for stoppin by.
DRUMMERLARS- well I'm not realy gonna be running a bio-system any more but I'm gonna use the uniseals on all of my drains, where the 4 inch pvc goes into the res and where the main feed line comes out of the res.
I'll post updates in a few days, peace.
last time I had 9 buckets hooked up to a 1000gph pump and I already use an aeroponic cloner.
I'm sure the idea of only having 1 upward run would help the efficiency of the pump but it only takes about 2 minutes to fill all the buckets all the way. so thats an exchange rate of about 30 times an hour. more than nessecary. plus I use airstones and I'm only using the water pump to circulate nutes. I personaly got root rot twice with the bio system and have seen at least 3 other people get root rot so I don't run a bio-bucket system anymore just recirculating DWC.
I like your idea of foliar feeding the ones that need a stronger dose of nutes. I might have to try that out.
CHUCKELBERRY, RULE35SUB1- thanks for stoppin by.
DRUMMERLARS- well I'm not realy gonna be running a bio-system any more but I'm gonna use the uniseals on all of my drains, where the 4 inch pvc goes into the res and where the main feed line comes out of the res.
I'll post updates in a few days, peace.
drummerlars
Member
i wonder why so many people are getting root rot in the bio system????
most roots ive seen are beautiful and pure white
any suggestions why root root??
i mean 30 times an hour is perefect and more than enough!
what is your water fall height??
most roots ive seen are beautiful and pure white
any suggestions why root root??
i mean 30 times an hour is perefect and more than enough!
what is your water fall height??
drummerlars
Member
also mid town any signs of root rot or poor flow in this round???
i wonder if the air pump makes a difference.
i just built this bio system and don't want to fuck it up with root rot every grow!!
i wonder if the air pump makes a difference.
i just built this bio system and don't want to fuck it up with root rot every grow!!
MID TOWN
Active member
DRUMMERLARS- well I"M not running a bio system any more as I have absolutely no faith in it any more. I only run the pump once a day to circulate nutes. no ROT this round. before I had wonderfull white roots too but my plants just rotted away at the base of the stalk. i had my waterfall height at about 13 inches with 30x an hour circulation and no temp problems, wich leaves me to the conclusion that the bio system is a HOAX. AIRSTONES need to be used and the water should NOT touch the medium. If I were you I'd fix those problems before you get started or risk loosing it all.
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drummerlars
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MID TOWN said:
true mate i might drop the return drains down the bucket from reccomeded 2 inches to 3-4 inches depending on height of the net pots.
Do you think that constand wet medium is causing root.stalk rot??
MID TOWN
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<true mate i might drop the return drains down the bucket from reccomeded 2 inches to 3-4 inches depending on height of the net pots.>
exactly what I'll be doing next run.
<Do you think that constand wet medium is causing root.stalk rot??>
That's the main reason but I think that not having airstones is also a factor.
exactly what I'll be doing next run.
<Do you think that constand wet medium is causing root.stalk rot??>
That's the main reason but I think that not having airstones is also a factor.
Dreamscape
Member
MID TOWN said:
Oh man, you've got me paranoid as hell now LOL ... i'd like to hear some more feedback on this from others running a bio system ...
drummerlars
Member
Dreamscape said:
yeah i feel a bit funny to now i dont want to be getting root rot every grow.
maybe some other people can chime in.
Hay midtown are you fearful of root rot in the system if the roots are only in the water with no circulation??? sort of stagnant water but i guess its more like DWC isn it with the air stones providing circulation and oxygen distribution!
critical diesel
New member
what are the dimensions of your shed? how much room did the set-up take up.
What i am wondering is how much on average does each bucket take up? as well as the whole space?
cheers
What i am wondering is how much on average does each bucket take up? as well as the whole space?
cheers
MID TOWN
Active member
here's a little update.
I dusted a white rhino, blue dot, purple urkle and a grandaddy, with pollen from a grandaddy male, so I'll have a few nice crosses of my own to work with soon.
here's a few pics of the mothers and a couple taster nugs I pulled early. not exactly sure how far along these are but probably about 55 days.
I dusted a white rhino, blue dot, purple urkle and a grandaddy, with pollen from a grandaddy male, so I'll have a few nice crosses of my own to work with soon.
here's a few pics of the mothers and a couple taster nugs I pulled early. not exactly sure how far along these are but probably about 55 days.
