2.5x1.8 meter coco scrog, 3 strain bingo!!

[Tokesome]

Hey mate, tidy looking scrog ya got going there again, they dont look so bad in the photos, but they can be deceiving I know. I think I see some signs of interveinal lightening on some leaves on the first pic, but may just be the lighting?

I`ve been foliar feeding the same mix as I`m feeding the rootzone, Rhizotonic and Superthrive added to ec0.8 Canna A+B, to the 5 Hog plants in my cloning cupboard, roots fed once a day and foliar every 3 days, they seem to be loving that. If they were showing any Mg def/lock out I`d foliar feed with 1 teaspoon of Epsom salts per ltr water every 3 days. It doesn`t address the initial problem, but the plants feel a lot better for it. Dunno why I`m telling you that tho mate as I know you know that shit. Leaves me wondering why you haven`t done it tho? Trying to figure out the cause? The off-gassing issue is a concern to me as they definitely do better else where. The tent grow managed 4 oz per plant (4 in 1.2m2 under one 400w HPS) where mine did something like 1 and half oz per plant in more space and higher wattage lighting and I know its not down to me. The tent grow only managed 2 and a quater oz in the hot months where mine did about 1 and a half again.

I`m confused by the GF`s doing so well and will wait to see what they and the Hog do in the next grow in comparison to the same plants in the grow tents.

I dont know how to go about taking all plastics out of my room to try and establish which one(s) if any are having adverse affects on my grow. How would I know, I cant put all plastic items back one at a time to see if they have an affect, that may be masked by good extraction, because the set-up needs most if not all the plastics in the room to operate. Its a brain cruncher for sure, but its really going to have to be tackled if the "tent grows" produce better results with the GF`s and Hog than my room. If the GF`s do much better than here though, I`d be surprised, as I said they really are looking like the dogs nuts at this stage.

One thing worth mentioning is that the plastic material responsible for the off-gassing in the second grow tent really stank unpleasantly when it was warm under lights, the kind of plastic smells that could easily give you a head ache. I dont know if the feed piping currently off-gassing in peoples grows, as we speak, gives off an obvious odour or not, but if it does that might be a helpful clue, I must pop onto the thread I mention in a recent post and find that out.

If yer regretting not going with Coco this run, you know you could switch. I remember having plants in hydro with bad pythium issues, I mean grey slimey roots like you see in yer nightmares, hand rubbed most of the slime (and rotted roots) and dumped in coco. A few days later, not much longer than a week and the plants kicked off again and made a decent harvest! Not at all suggesting you do the same tho bro.

I bet they`re not looking as bad as this!

Ok I haven`t been looking after this plant well for a while knowing it was gonna be killed (viciously, for the trouble its caused me!) off, but there`s more than a little neglect going on with this fucked up Armageddon mother, I`ve neglected other plants to much greater degrees in the past without anything like this going on.

Fucked up Mutha, some parts quite rich and green whilst other areas totally bleached out?

Ah well that`s the last we`re gonna see of Armageddon cuttings for sure!

On a brighter note, these are Grapefruit and the nearest long stems are about 2 feet in length and the nugs are dense, and still some more bud below that.

They`ve been side lit by the lights on movers over the lower Armageddon plants to either side, along with the 2 lights directly above them. I can see noticeable swelling going on right now and hoping this will continue for a good week or two. I love this plant, so I`m really hoping my flowering GF clones pan out ok and give me a good mother or two.

Oh BTW, I flooded my bathroom and as a result the room downstairs due to my waste pipe from my RO filter was pissing all over the floor for a couple of hours! I am a fuckwit at times!

Cheer, Toke

 

[Scrogerman]

Oh No, dont you just hate being a stoney head sometimes, hope your flood didnt do any damage bro.
My problems are coming from switching over from CFL to HPS, initially i damaged loads of roots getting them out of the Bubblecloner, i tried putting a HID on them then(Bad Move), they just didnt have the root mass to cope so i switched back to the CFL untill i had a really good root mass in my Res, OK i thought they should be able to handle a HID now, so i banged the HPS back in a few days ago. Straight away im seeing what looks very similar to an Mg def but slightly different(Its all at the top on new-ish growth?The Bigger upper fans), looks more golden the necrosis between viens, almost like the cloraphyl is dissolving, looks wierd. I just hope now they take to the HID or it could be curtains n ill have to start again, Its my own fault for being Lazy & leaving the cuts in the Cloner for 3+ weeks, ill never do that again, thats for sure, lesson learnt. I know if i put the CFL back on them they'll come straight back but thats no good is it, theyll have to take to it or die, i got some Whiterhino beans i wanna pop anyway, but i wont be happy if these dont take off. Ive never seen this happen before.
Thanks for the helpful ideas though matey, it may just be their need for Mg has gone through the roof n a simple foliar could be the answer, if it gets worse by tomoro ill do that. I dont get it really, the 400w HID is 4.5+ft away, its a fingers crossed on this one, if it goes tit's-up i'll just start again. Cheers Bro ;?)
Out of interest what ph are you foliaring at?, i usually aim for 7.2ish.

 

[Tokesome]

Hey Scrogger, yeah, you know it. Although its not the usual stoner forgot I was filling a rez, or forgot I was draining off a rez, done those of course, but no, this time it was the waste pipe from the RO filter had come out of the bath whilst I had my back turned for a few minutes, saw it, claened up and put the pipe in the usual place in the bath and left it for a couple of hours til I needed a piss, OH, OH, wet feet.

No damage luckily, nothing would get through the fucking wallpaper here, just the light fitting, which has survived worse before.

Well mate, that doesn`t seem right to me, 4.5 feet away with a 400w, should be able to get to within 14-18 inches. When my situation was bad here I couldn`t get my lights near them and those that were nearest suffered the most. I`m still suspecting some sort of off-gassing at mine and the likelyhood is that the water and extraction upgrades have significantly improved things/ or made them more hidden, depending on which way you look at it.

I`d get straight on with the foliar feed. If I ever check the ph in foliar applications I`d aim for 7 or just over, but as I said they`re getting sprayed with the same solution as the roots are getting including the ph of around 6, seems to be working fine. I`d be aiming to get the ph correct if I was tackling a problem like Mg def tho mate.

What`s your extraction like mate? I`m assuming your temps are under control. If its off gassing, upping your extraction would help reduce the problem, have you checked this thread out? You got any new plastic items in your grow?

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=3904719#post3904719

Its an interesting read mate. Its too easy to get paranoid about things off gassing, but I think its going to be responsible for a lot of grows where constant issues are a problem. I think it may well become one of the most widespread problems as more and more plastics are shipped everywhere by China. Its cheap to have things made there, less restrictions etc too. One tip so far is that the grow tent material, supple white plastic had an awful toxic smell under the lights, that`d give you a headache quickly, U.G.U reports a similar smell to the N-G-W.com black plastic piping that`s been causing issues everywhere its used.

I`m sure there are shit loads of products out there that off gas to a greater or lesser extent, finding out exactly what does and doesn`t off gas though is going to be difficult, unless we find that the toxic plastic smell gives the away. It`d be cool if a sensitive nose would be the answer to this fuck awful problem, tons of extraction and if possible a recirculating scrubber as recommended by U.G.U are ways of reducing the stress on plants.

The amount of plastics involved in a grow is huge, there are, I think, bound to be problems like this arising with increasing regularity.

Fuck, I`m DOOM & GLOOM today then eh?

Cheers, Toke

 

[Tokesome]

Day 44 bud porn

Day 44 bud porn

I`ve transplanted the 5 Hog plants up.

Here they are placed back in the Cloning cupboard with the 16 Grapefruit clones.

Here are a few bud shots of the Grapefruit on day 44/63.

The view from my cloning cupboard.

Cheers, Toke

 

[Tokesome]

INSECTS IN MY COCO!!

INSECTS IN MY COCO!!

I`ve just discovered that I have a thriving colony of white insects living in my coco.

I`ve checked a hundred times and there are no signs of any insects on the plants, on the stems, under leaves, upper and lower and I`ve been over them with my reading glasses on and a good magnifier, NADA!

Poor liquid into the pots though and loads of little white bugs scramble about like ants on the surface as they wait for it to be dry enough to to duck back down under the surface.

They`re tiny, and I hope springtails, which I think are a bonus if anything, but I cant see the usual flicking about that springtails do, and these little critters are quite nippy on their feet, I removed one from the coco and put it on the black catching tray where it stood out being white and it crawled around for ages inspecting shady areas and crawling fast for something so small.

I`ve put a thread up in the infirmary section with pics, but I`m sure nobody will mind if I repeat them here. They`re a bit crap to say the least, My digi SLR wont get anywhere near the distance required, so I`ve had to zoom and crop severely and as a result its pretty hard to clearly make it out clearly.

I wont treat with anything at this stage, but I want to reuse the coco and will treat with something suitable if they`re of no benefit or possibly harmful.

As I said, after a thorough investigation, I`m sure there are no insects dwelling on the plants themselves, and there is no sightings of flying insects anywhere, and non on the yellow sticky traps I have around the tops of pots. I`m pretty sure they exist in the medium itself.

Any ideas people??

Cheers, Toke

 

[Scrogerman]

That last Pic gives it away, they look like Snow Fleas to me bro, i had a dose earlier in the year, well Mid Summer Time. The Horns there in the last Pic are the give away, there are various stages with ST's too & yours look snow white, which is a good thing if they are ST's like you said. They are in fact supposed to be beneficial to plants if im not mistakenbut i wouldnt & didnt want them there, the Treatment to get rid looked a bitch so i slung mine outside, problem solved, dont suppose you wanna quite go that far though bro, I flushed fk out the pots every few days, helped to keep the population low it seemed but they are attracted to moisture, so not so sure on that one.
Yeah the colour & the Horns are an indicator of Springtails, i hope it isnt something damaging or nastie, looked like Pubic Lice at first lol. G'Luck with those buddy, if i come up with a remedy ill give ya a shout!
I was finding loads in my Run-Off tray, my small run-off tray that let no light in seemed to get full of them after a little watering, then i was seeing tons, flicking & jumping/hopping about like mad, fast as you like & i can see why they are refered to as Snowfleas! 99% sure i got Bitten too. Size seemed to be another indicator, alot of variation in size ranging from 2mm to 4mm approx, so quite long for such small things, very visible anyway!

 

[Tokesome]

Fuck me Scrogger, I checked in my pants and the little buggers are there too, so pubic lice live in plant growing mediums too eh?

Nah, I dont know what they are, but if they`re beneficial I dont mind them being there.

I`ve just taken a shitload more photos to see if I can get anything clearer of them, I`ll take a look a bit later.

Toke

 

[Scrogerman]

LMAO, thought that'd bring a giggle! Coco's a bit like a 70's Pornstars Pubes when ya think about it, specially a good old 70's bit of German Gruff/Scrunt. LOL i could go on but enough's enough! tehee
yeah thats why i thought id help try to ID these things for you mate, i was in the same boat & never seen them before ever, i know there are many(like 6-8) larval to adult stages, pure white & 2-4mm long, some seem to have loads of legs like a centipede a bit. The Horns in your last Pic look identicle to the Horns that ST's have in one of their latter more adult stages. Ive read there harmless but they fucking bit me for sure, just like a flea bite, still id have to get rid, Would predatory Nematodes be worth reading up on i wonder, not sure ion this one as they are supposed to be harmless to plants, beneficial even, but like i said id have to get rid myself, think there aint many 1 hit treatments if any for ST's. Hope they dont piss you off anyway bro!

 

[Scrogerman]

Forgot to mention bro, that my plants are kicking back in & my issues were im almosrt certain related to VPD(Vapour Pressure Deficit), it went from a cool 72f & 60% RH approx to something like 74-78f & under 30%RH, i know this will cause VPD as its well outside of optimal RH levels Vs Temps(the/a known cause of VPD). It looks Nuts & just like a Mg def but different, like the leaf cloraphyl just dissolved, the Mg looking def you saw in the Pic is what it was but looks nothing like Mg def now, you can clearly see its RH-VPD related, ill show ya what i mean when i get me camera back-again. Anyway there off & kicking again, was touch n Go for a minute there but they are eating & drinking like crazy & improving everyday, very hungry this strain, Happy Dayyz again! Cheers!

 

[Tokesome]

Hey Scrogger, cool you have yer little problem under control. Drop me a picture when you can mate. I`ve got an interest in all things that make our plants go into these problems. I know a lot of them can be diagnosed as a Mg hungry plant or RH and temp differences, but I feel that a lot of the time the plants would survive the conditions ok elsewhere. I`m starting to believe plastics off-gassing, particularly soft ones, are responsible for an awful lot of the ills we come across, and for sure making things easier for the plants, be it in air circulation or temp/RH control, will improve things, but keep a close eye on things mate.

I`m sure I have an off gassing problem here that is improved with upped air circulation and perfect water, and I think the Grapefruit is more resilliant than the other strains I`ve tried of late. I know the Arma`s and previously the Cheese should be doing a load better. I`m going to seriously attack my use of plastics that I`ve introduced since I`ve been in this house.

Here are a couple more pics of the bugs I have in serious numbers, dunno if it`ll help ID them more positively.

If they`re Spring Tails I think I`m all cool with them living in my grow. They seem to only have positive attributes to bring to the medium and are recyclers of decaying matter.

I found this on the web.

​

The following is an article on springtails, a nuisance insect often found in greenhouses and landscapes from the New England Greenhouse Update.

Springtails are very small, wingless arthropods about 1/16 to 1/8 inch (1 to 2 mm) long. Some springtails are known as “snow fleas,” because they appear outdoors on the top of snow during late winter and early spring. They occasionally are observed in greenhouse growing media, especially if plants have been over-watered. Springtails do not bite humans [edit:- except for Scrogger], or spread disease.

Description:

Springtails may be white, gray, yellow, orange, metallic green, lavender or red; some are patterned or mottled. They get their name from the ability to catapult themselves (leap) through the air three to four inches by means of a tail-like mechanism (furcula) tucked under the abdomen. When disturbed, this appendage functions as a spring, propelling them into the air away from the danger source. Young springtails resemble adults except for size and color. Eggs are spherical. Growers may occasionally mistake some types of springtails for thrips, however, thrips do not have the characteristic furcula tucked under their abdomen.

Habitat:

Springtails occur in nearly every climatic condition throughout the world–in high mountain regions, pools, streams, snow-covered fields, forest floors, etc. They live in the soil, leaf mold, decaying logs, organic mulches, termite nests, snow, greenhouses, and on the surface of freshwater pools and under bark. Populations are often high, up to 100,000 per cubic meter of surface soil–many millions per acre. Springtails feed on algae, fungi, and decaying organic matter, and they are abundant only in damp, moist or very humid locations.

Damage:

Springtails have chewing mouthparts, but they rarely damage the roots or leaves of ornamental plants in the greenhouse. Since springtails feed on fungi and decaying organic matter, they sometimes are blamed for causing the decay, if they are present. Over-watering is usually the cause of unhealthy decayed roots and springtails are a secondary organism.

A few species feed on living plants and are occasionally regarded as pests: In gardens or the field, Bourletiella hortensis (the garden springtail) may damage seedlings in early spring. As they feed, small holes and surface scarring develops that resembles flea beetle injury. Roots are also fed on by some species. Most types of springtails are beneficial as they reduce decayed vegetation to soil (functioning as recyclers).

Management: Springtails are commonly found where there are sources of moisture. Avoid over-watering and allow the growing media to dry between waterings.

Information was adapted from the Virginia Cooperative Extension, the Ohio State University Extension and Rhode Island Cooperative Extension.

By Tina Smith in the February 2008 edition of the New England Greenhouse Growers Update http://www.negreenhouseupdate.info/greenhouse_update/?m=200802

Everything else going according to plan, yesterday some roots were showing at the bottom of some of the GF cuttings pots, fat and white too.

Cheers, Toke

 

[killerweed31]

so beautifull jungle nugs grapefruit ..only nice updates from the thread cheers tokesome!!!

 

[Scrogerman]

Taffy Welsh Springtails Bite i can tell ya, ive started itching just thinking about them, im 99% sure i got Bitten on my arm after playing with the infested trays. they were hopping all over the place man, creepey little critters. Im not gonna say they are 100% ST's as they could also be root Aphids(God Forbid) or something similar, but from that pic '3' in the first set you put up im convinced they are. Those second lot of pics aint helped my diagnosis, some look like Rootaphid or something to me, still think they are Springgers though.

have a look at a diagramme of the dirrerent larvel to adult stages, theres a few on the Web(images), myself, i could see alot of different stages in the bottom catchment tray after a slight leach through. Thats how i ID'd these things positively. I hope they are Not nothing like Rootaphids, but you better get a positive ID bro & go from there. My dollars on the Springgers! Im just real Glad it aint Pubic Lice bro, very happy for ya! lool

 

[Tokesome]

Hypoaspis mites? That`s what Real Ting thought on this thread about them, beneficial he reckons. They definitely dont live on the plant, and the plants dont seem to mind them being there. I`m sure I`d have serious problems if they were root aphid. https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=3914733#post3914733

I`m most concerened with off gassing at the mo. I`ve noticed the tell tale signs in the Hog plants in the cloning cupboard, and slighter signs on the GF`s. So I`m deplasticing the closet, except for one cable to the light. I expect to see a difference in the look and vigour of the plants in a short space of time. I`ve been dealing with this issue here https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=3914604&posted=1#post3914604 This thread is worth a read through for anyone involved in growing weed, it seriously is, its something we all need to be aware of, especially as more and more cheaper products are ordered from China, the problem is going to get worse.

Cheers, Toke

 

[Scrogerman]

Oh Cool, Youve introduced me to a new Bug bro, Never heard of the little critters but just read up on them, Cool if they are ah, a natural predator/biological control, got to be a good thing then. i wonder if Canna put those in? Yeah i was just saying that you best be on the safe side & get a positive ID, you cant be too carefull, but if you think they are are these things then cool, the size & location will give it away, the top couple inches of media & 0.5mm in size, Springgers are much bigger so it shouldnt be a problem to ID these. Thanks for the eduacation man

 

[Scrogerman]

Just read through Some of that off gassing thread too, interesting stuff bro. China use some shit dont they, cheaper & sometimes banned materials/substances in their products & alot for export too. remeber the Kids & baby Toys scandle last year(was it?), they got no shame. Well when we identify which ones are the culpurits they will be boycotted, so bringing these issues to light is a really good thing for the growing comunity. More people should take note & investigate unusal or unexplainable symptoms, name n shame these idiots like NWG. Youve got me thinking now bro, ive got plastics everywhere in my cab, bloody everywhere. One of them is bound to be wrong, i got that gut feeling on that one.
Ive used some White(cheap version Total Blackout)thick plastic for the floor of my Cab, thats a new one in my Cab. Mylar & Gaffa tape everywhere else. Just hope the cheap Tank(Res) i bought doesnt give off any nasty in my Res solution, i try to buy Food Grade plastics (or close to) if i can. I see chinese writing on anything plastic it aint coming in my room. I think someone should sticky a 'Name n Shame' thread for this very purpose, a thread like that could save countless grows from hassle.

Oh Toke, i thought id mention too, that cannabis will produce more resin(Trichs) when under certain stress's, especially light(UV) & predatory infestation. I was thinking of adding 10,000k/UV at the end of bloom(last 2/3 weeks) & also using the new Green lights(Veg&Bloom) too, those are interesting. Maybe your plants are producing more resin due to stress caused by OffGassin, i know stress's will do it, the plants produce trichs as a protective layer, if we manipulate this trait then we should be able to max-out resin output, although stress can cause hermi's too, i suppose it can be dangerous(we dont want nanners), Ive noticed using GHRipen in the last 2/3weeks will also increase resin output & that stuff is designed to stress the plant out, it works well too.

Have you seen the New Phillips Green HPS Lamp? - at £46 they aint cheap but id like to try. For me id rather use light(UV) etc, in the last weeks to max-out resin output, Upgrading my lamp/s is my next move, EyeHorilux, Phillips Green, & other top brand lamps. Theres a company called 'SON' that are producing lamps with a higher output than the standard lamps, their interesting, horticulture specific too.
sorry for waffling bro. G'Luck..

 

[Tokesome]

I dont think relying on china being stamped on plastics would be enough as they are producing a lot of rip offs and offering a company logo to be printed on their wares all for the same cheap price. Any soft plastic that smells toxic, I`d out it straight away.

All my plant pots in the veg cupboard have Made In England stamped into them so should be ok. I`ve got rid of all plastics in there except the plant pots, food bags for them to sit on and the cable going to the light, which I`ve switched for flex with a less supple sleeve. The ballast and extension cable are now positioned out of the cupboard. I`ve also opened the loft hatch 1/2 a centimeter for ventilation, air being pulled through from the negative pressure from the main chamber that the cloning cupboard is attached to.

Lets see what happens here now.

I`ve flooded the pots with the Hog clones thinking the bugs bI`ve found in the bigger pots may have come with them, but after a thorough look there`s no sign of them there. I could do without this really, as I know I definitely have some off gassing issues here.

I`ll try and update with some bud shots later, they`re 16 days from the chop.

Cheers, Toke

 

[Tokesome]

bugs in my coco, off gassing, what next. . . plague of locusts?

bugs in my coco, off gassing, what next. . . plague of locusts?

I`ve reduced the feed for the Arma`s now to ec1.0 and will reduce it over the next few days, the same approach will be given to the Grapefruits tmro.

They`re looking very frosty and the smell is as strong as, in the room.

From the left of the room

From the right of the room

Grapefruit from above

As you can see from the look of the plants, they dont look like they`re being attacked by root aphids and are still thirsty girls. I caught a few of these bugs on some sticky tape, as suggested on a separate thread I put up about these lil critters. The magnifying glass I have just isn`t strong enough for me to get a good look, and my camera wont get close enough. I could determine that they are a maximum length of 1mm, including the antennae. Does that help ID them?

I`m going to try and get hold of a jewelers loop tmro so I can get a better look at them. The trouble is that all the mites/bugs look very similar when searching google images for the various species.

I flushed 3 of the Hog plants today with at least twice the quantity of the pot size and then fed with ec0.8+Rhizotonic+Superthrive @ ph6.0, the other two I just gave a regular feed. I`ve done this to ensure that its not because they`ve been allowed to dry out a couple of times before they got to me and have salt build ups, I dont think it`ll be the case, but its worth a check.

As regarding the off gassing, the veg/cloning cupboard is sorted, all dubious quality plastics removed. Its improved the room, no space being taken up with electrics, ballast, etc. Tackling the main grow after harvest is going to be a real tough one though. Its a question of how far do you take it and how to identify offending plastics. I want this tackling in one go, so this may involve trying to source safe rez`s, tubing, cables, a safe paint instead of the usual black and white sheeting.

Nearly everything in my grow room is made of questionable quality plastics, the same for many of us I imagine.

It never used to be this difficult in 20+yrs, except for a couple of pythium attacks in hydro, which were obvious and treatable problems. It just seems like I`m chasing my tail all the time, woof woof!

Cheers Toke

 

[Scrogerman]

Hey Bro,
Your GF's Look absolutely Killa! V-Nice! MMmmm!
Yeah, had this conversation with an old friend years ago & he is a very clever lad indeed, knows his chemistry,physics & most other scientific tec like the back of his hand. He put me onto the Jarg Plastics issue, we were both using builders buckets & getting a film(oily) on top of solutions, just floating about. Came to the conclusion that its not good/suitable for use in hydro/growing, then the advice from my buddy, who is also a talented grower, was to use only Food Grade plastics if at all possible for Res's and anything containing our feed solutions, Food Grade plastics are alot less likely to have toxic elements, makes sense to me. Your res there is made of the same stuff as the builders buckets to look at it, not so sure that its a problem myself but i got rid of that type of plastic in my grows on my buddies advice, no-more oily films now & another one to consider. I just paid £9 for my 80ltr Res/Tank & its the same stuff Tupperware food Tubs are made of, they are the ones i always use now. Ive seen 120ltr ones too, think they were about £15, so theres one possible item to remove from your grow, your Res is a standard plastic Bin if im not mistaken Bro? Do you ever see that oily film im speaking of floating about on top of your mixed solution's? Its another one to consider anyway. Ive tried to cover as much stuff as i can in Mylar, the Diamond kind costs a few quid but i cant see that stuff OffGassin, better bloody hadnt be the price it cost me. I just hope the Thick White Blackout stuff ive used for floor covering is cool, never used that stuff before, if it becomes suspect ill just cover with Mylar straight over the top of it, it's glued down & would cause a ruck of work if i had to rip it all out, Fk that, id rather just fly-cover anything suss!! Anyway looks like your in for a bumper GF yield, looks de-lish. G'Luck!

Where did you get the Aluminum Foil Tape from bro & what brand is it? need some of that stuff myself!
Oh BTW, Yes bro, that does help to ID those things imo, 1mm max is too small & springers are bigger, i was seeing like 2-4mm long, & from what i read that seemed a standard size, so id say they aint & are more likely those beneficial mites.

Whats your take on the new Greenlights bro? always thought canna reflected greenlight but now we know that aint quite right! one of my next moves is either to incorporate some green strips or go with the new phillips green, if it makes it bigger & faster its gotta be worth a look, a few peeps on IC are reporting very positively on them. Id like to try LED's too & if i had the cash i go with the Sulpher Plasma, they are the next big thing imo!!

 

[gaiusmarius]

hey man, as far as i can tell you are doing all you can. i'd be shocked if the panda foil is causing off gassing, but i guess it could be. anyway once you source the offgassing trouble it's easy to fix.

as for the white bugs in the coco, i imagine they are gnat larva, they have 2 stages in the soil, tinny white worm things and jumping insect things. the larva will eat the growing tips of your roots. with a perfectly healthy room it will take them ages to do any real damage, but after a certain amount of time you can lift the rw cube and plant off the slabs if left unchecked. watering with mosquito dunk takes care of it, you can buy bti and water with that. it also slows them right down to let the medium get real dry. from the healthy look of your plant i imagine they will not do much harm by the time you harvest.

peace

 

[Tokesome]

Aye, I`m not sure what the bugs are, but I`m surprised they got themselves in there and to this level without me noticing, but they dont seem to be doing any damage. I`ll inspect the root zone fully at harvest, but I imagine Cannazym will have dissolved most dead roots.

It kinda pisses me off that people come straight out with Root Aphid, panicking me out with the worst indoor nightmare, when its clear that they`re not that easy to identify, I doubt many of them have even seen a Root Aphid. I`ve got to say that it does indeed look like the harmless mites, but how on earth did they get in here? Canna`s coco pro could be compromised here, as I found various other alien items such as wood and plastic in there, they`re obviously not that careful.

I`m still trying to get an answer as to whether Root Aphids are a problem here in the UK?

Yeah, plastcs mate, dont start me talkin`, my room is due for a shake up in the plastics dept. after this chop.

What are the rez`z you`re using mate, are they translucent? I think if I replace rez`s, which I`m likely to do, I`d need to know without any doubts that I was replacing with a safe plastic. I`ve never come across the oily film you refer to, but I remember you mentioning it a while back. I also use builder`s buckets for 9 of my plants, I`ll also be looking to replace them, its a shame I`m not ready to take on the Air-pots on the whole grow, but I daren`t commit the whole grow to them until I`ve given them a good testing for suitability to my set up and I have a sense of being able to dial them in fully. I was having the off-gassing issues raised before I introduced the rez`s or builders buckets, though that in no way implies that they`re safe, just means I have other shit in there to resolve.

Cheers for now, Toke