bule nice work bro I use the same deoderant too!
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150w HPS Club and Resource Guide......
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BonsaiGrower
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Hey all...my back has been out and I haven't really had anything to post...wanted to stop in and say hi....great work everyone...glad to see this thread really taking off.
Bulenath.... finally bro.... what was it at the end 130+ days? that has to have a whole new level of rewading ... man.... congrats. did you decide to kill it or are you going to reveg?
Welcome to the new members ... all your stuff looks great.
My clones for the 150w cab are being lst'd still and next weekend I'll have them ready for the cab I think... my new veg cab seems to keep them short... I'm not getting much growth in it at all ... great for my moms but slow for the babies.
Anyways...the back is pretty sore and I can't sit here long....peace and white light to y'all... keep up the good work
BG
Bulenath.... finally bro.... what was it at the end 130+ days? that has to have a whole new level of rewading ... man.... congrats. did you decide to kill it or are you going to reveg?
Welcome to the new members ... all your stuff looks great.
My clones for the 150w cab are being lst'd still and next weekend I'll have them ready for the cab I think... my new veg cab seems to keep them short... I'm not getting much growth in it at all ... great for my moms but slow for the babies.
Anyways...the back is pretty sore and I can't sit here long....peace and white light to y'all... keep up the good work
BG
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xavier7995
Q_ba1 said:hi guys, my closet after small light upgrade, two bulbs 1000lum colour 860
now is 17/18 day of flo
I was thinking of a similar upgrade. What sort of improvesments do you see with the extra cfl's. I was thinking of putting in those Y-adapters and adding 4 of whatever the strongest available cfl's are. Originally I had heat issues with just the 150 but I built a pretty decent ventilation system and it is no longer an issue, it is just an active intake and outtake design using high speed computer fans but there is a definate breeze that flows through the box. Would adding 2-4 cfl's add much strain? Thanks.
edit: Thanks for the advice, I haven't purchased the lights and adapters yet. I am working on improving things after my first grow and want to get a big list together for one large home depot trip.
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the cfl's DO produce some heat . plug a couple in and see what happens, temp-wise.
Q_ba1
Member
yeah, its true cfl's do produce some heat but not too much, i didnt see any special temp rise, ive got 4 computer fans 80x80mm 12V (to takeout) with carbonate filter and they are ok to cool down hps150w and 2 cfl's and i think then 4 cfl's shuldnt be a problem... i hope because probably i'll put into 2 more cfl's soon
some pix, 24/25 days of flo, hst in progress as you can see but only one branch
3 of my 6 plants
some pix, 24/25 days of flo, hst in progress as you can see but only one branch
3 of my 6 plants
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jasonk
Member
Hey all, so I dont receive any premature judgement here this girl has been through alot, broken stem, transplating outdoors to in, a couple power outages and my first indoor plant. Check out my gallery to see a picture from about 3 months ago about when flowering started to see how well the recovery has been. I figured to still try my best to keep it alive and see what kind of smoke I can get from it. I've been quite surprised on how strong these plants are and can still produce nice sizable bud.
Anyways, I'm expecting the trichs to turn color soon and am waiting to harvest, but over the past 4 or 5 days have had quite a bit of healthy white hairs pop out with, basically, new sprouts protruding from the buds. The rest of the plant, especially larger leaves look like theyre dying and wilting up. All I have is a crappy camera and a 10X loupe, but I tried to some sort of pictures.
Heres a from about 5 days ago
A shot form today
A attempted closeup of the main cola
And an attempted macro of the majority of the new hairs.
I guess all I can do do is jsut see how things go, ive slowly been taking buds off to compare the smoke, just waiting for amber trichs.
Jason
Anyways, I'm expecting the trichs to turn color soon and am waiting to harvest, but over the past 4 or 5 days have had quite a bit of healthy white hairs pop out with, basically, new sprouts protruding from the buds. The rest of the plant, especially larger leaves look like theyre dying and wilting up. All I have is a crappy camera and a 10X loupe, but I tried to some sort of pictures.
Heres a from about 5 days ago
A shot form today
A attempted closeup of the main cola
And an attempted macro of the majority of the new hairs.
I guess all I can do do is jsut see how things go, ive slowly been taking buds off to compare the smoke, just waiting for amber trichs.
Jason
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looks like you are getting a nice wad of ganja from a plant that was at deaths door, jason . good work !
damn guys im feeling no love at the other forum i have this grow at (cannabis forums) , i think they are mad a noobie is showing them whats up 
honestly the people here seem way more willing to help out anyways
anyways here we are 2 days into flower these babys are gonna be HUGE i dont even know if ill make my hieght i have about 16" for them to stretch before the warning zone, more LST may have to be done.
sex isnt known yet so hope fully there is a male so i can get some room in there for these huge to be colas
honestly the people here seem way more willing to help out anyways
anyways here we are 2 days into flower these babys are gonna be HUGE i dont even know if ill make my hieght i have about 16" for them to stretch before the warning zone, more LST may have to be done.
sex isnt known yet so hope fully there is a male so i can get some room in there for these huge to be colas
nice work invision. I think you'll need to start doing some training soon - probably before sex is shown - don't worry though even if you end up with empty space when you take out the males the remaining females will easily fill in the gaps - cannabis just seeks out the light and will naturally grow wider if given the space. Also glad to see you found a nice home here to share your grows with - I'm sorry to hear of your bad experiences on the other forums.
hey suga,
i wouldnt say a bad experience there its more like if your not in their click your on your own which is fine by me, this is my 2nd grow my 1st one went awesome and ended up getting about a OZ of herb.
heres a pic of my very first attempt growing, the high this herb gave was amazing to say the least.
at the time i was using a single 150watt hps light in a 16x16x32 minicab, worked so well i saved it so i could use it later to clone in.
i wouldnt say a bad experience there its more like if your not in their click your on your own which is fine by me, this is my 2nd grow my 1st one went awesome and ended up getting about a OZ of herb.
heres a pic of my very first attempt growing, the high this herb gave was amazing to say the least.
at the time i was using a single 150watt hps light in a 16x16x32 minicab, worked so well i saved it so i could use it later to clone in.
invision said:
hey i see your cab is just shy of 3 ft tall.. i just started construction of my cab thats width 4ft x depth 2.5 ft and height 3 ft.. i am gonna put a lumtak 250w in there.. how is your setup with being just shy of 3ft high? what kind of reflector are you using? are you doing LST?
Bulénath
Member
Heres the OB1's at day 19 veg. This is Sugabear's strain thats Oregon 90 X Burmesse pure. They will be flowered soon. All seeds germinated and sprouted! Their size and progress is almost euqal.
I noticed they all have fat leaves, fatter than the stativa I am growing. But there are different traits among them. One is very squat but has very pointed, well defined leaves, the 4 others look more uniform.
CW20 pheno #1 clones, day 28 flower. I cant believe how small they are compared to one in the five gallon pot!
The cutting was about 130 days into veg, in a 4" square pot, before being flowered.
Its strange the white cabinet they are being flowerd in is 17 1/2" tall. Yet the strech is nearly over and its coming to a slow halt. Against my anticipation,they stopped short of the light and flowered! My BIG stativa tree is less than 10" total, flowering in under a foot and a half! LST baby!
Is thier small compact growth due to the small 1 gallon pots?
Is it due to the under 18 inches condition?
Is it the medium 150HPS compared to the big one?
They are 130 days into veg and yet they remain so healthy and small! Why??
Here is a identical clone turned into mother. She is 150 days old in this picture. She remaines sickly since being cut! But is my temporary back up and first practice run at caring for a mother plant.
Nuclear cloud is extinct. She just took a unreasonable time to flower, although she was a pure stativa I believe. Pure stativas are very speical plants. They take a long time to flower, and they produce a very special high. Nuclear cloud was the best anti depression strain I ever smoked. Im sad to see her go, but im puffing on her and damn it she is tasty. She was a winner, a beauty, she will be missed. R.I.P Nuclear cloud.
I noticed they all have fat leaves, fatter than the stativa I am growing. But there are different traits among them. One is very squat but has very pointed, well defined leaves, the 4 others look more uniform.
CW20 pheno #1 clones, day 28 flower. I cant believe how small they are compared to one in the five gallon pot!
The cutting was about 130 days into veg, in a 4" square pot, before being flowered.
Its strange the white cabinet they are being flowerd in is 17 1/2" tall. Yet the strech is nearly over and its coming to a slow halt. Against my anticipation,they stopped short of the light and flowered! My BIG stativa tree is less than 10" total, flowering in under a foot and a half! LST baby!
Is thier small compact growth due to the small 1 gallon pots?
Is it due to the under 18 inches condition?
Is it the medium 150HPS compared to the big one?
They are 130 days into veg and yet they remain so healthy and small! Why??
Here is a identical clone turned into mother. She is 150 days old in this picture. She remaines sickly since being cut! But is my temporary back up and first practice run at caring for a mother plant.
Nuclear cloud is extinct. She just took a unreasonable time to flower, although she was a pure stativa I believe. Pure stativas are very speical plants. They take a long time to flower, and they produce a very special high. Nuclear cloud was the best anti depression strain I ever smoked. Im sad to see her go, but im puffing on her and damn it she is tasty. She was a winner, a beauty, she will be missed. R.I.P Nuclear cloud.
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BonsaiGrower
Occasional User
Bulenath ... looks like things are movin along for ya. I hope you have good luck with the mother plants ... have you read the thread on taking care of Bonsai Mums?
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=31919
IMHO I would say that the slow growth is in part to the smaller pots ... small below ground means small above ground. 2 inch pots is how I use to do a SOG ... 100, 2 inch pots in a closet under a 400w hps can produce an average of 8 grams per plant with a single cola. it's a pain in the ass though cause you have to water twice a day.
I'm having similar slow growth rate in my veg cab due to the vertical lights I have in there. with light coming from all sides and from above they bush up more than grow up.
Lets all have a moment of silence in memory of the nuclear cloud. Have you finished curing her Bule? What was the final dried weight this time? did it make it to 150g?
Peace all.... everyones looking great. My veg cab is slow slow slow so I'm still waiting to get my 150w scrog going....please someone pop up and let Bulenath and I know how to speed up the growth rate.
BG
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=31919
IMHO I would say that the slow growth is in part to the smaller pots ... small below ground means small above ground. 2 inch pots is how I use to do a SOG ... 100, 2 inch pots in a closet under a 400w hps can produce an average of 8 grams per plant with a single cola. it's a pain in the ass though cause you have to water twice a day.
I'm having similar slow growth rate in my veg cab due to the vertical lights I have in there. with light coming from all sides and from above they bush up more than grow up.
Lets all have a moment of silence in memory of the nuclear cloud. Have you finished curing her Bule? What was the final dried weight this time? did it make it to 150g?
Peace all.... everyones looking great. My veg cab is slow slow slow so I'm still waiting to get my 150w scrog going....please someone pop up and let Bulenath and I know how to speed up the growth rate.
BG
hey y'all - just trimmed my blue thunder - yield wasn't so great but damn the dry sift and a bit o' bud really has sent me for a loop.
so anyways I wanted to say Bulénath that those OB1s are looking very nice and tight noded with good side branching already, all look healthy. The burmese being a highland sativa has the unique characteristic of having wide leaves. The o90 I'm pretty sure is of afghani lineage but it still remains a mystery.
The sativa pheno I saw of the two I grew differed from the indica pheno in more structure than anything. In this picture below the 8-9 week indica pheno is in the back - shorter, more dense with more initial side branching. The sativa pheno is in the front and as you can see it's more the lanky spread out structure that led me first to id this one as the sativa pheno - this one went 83 days, but I think this was in part due to accidental topping at 3 weeks of flower and it was just kinda a freak.
I've been smoking alot of the indie pheno lately and it's a real nice mix of head and body - good contemplative weed with a nice stoned feeling, in a word baked[/B
BonsaiGrower 100 plants in 2 inch pots under a 400 = 8 grams each = 800 grams = 2 grams/watt - that is really off the chart bro - I'd love to see that in action.
-suga
so anyways I wanted to say Bulénath that those OB1s are looking very nice and tight noded with good side branching already, all look healthy. The burmese being a highland sativa has the unique characteristic of having wide leaves. The o90 I'm pretty sure is of afghani lineage but it still remains a mystery.
The sativa pheno I saw of the two I grew differed from the indica pheno in more structure than anything. In this picture below the 8-9 week indica pheno is in the back - shorter, more dense with more initial side branching. The sativa pheno is in the front and as you can see it's more the lanky spread out structure that led me first to id this one as the sativa pheno - this one went 83 days, but I think this was in part due to accidental topping at 3 weeks of flower and it was just kinda a freak.
I've been smoking alot of the indie pheno lately and it's a real nice mix of head and body - good contemplative weed with a nice stoned feeling, in a word baked[/B
BonsaiGrower 100 plants in 2 inch pots under a 400 = 8 grams each = 800 grams = 2 grams/watt - that is really off the chart bro - I'd love to see that in action.
-suga
Bulénath
Member
Thanks for the link BonzaiGrower, ill have a nice read through it. Looks familiar...
Sugabear,
the indica pheno back there seems to have leaves that are not extended much... Compared to her sister anyway.
I too like that nice equal body and head high,
though it varies with the context of the weed being smoked.
Its very much a trip how different phenos, let alone different strains,
can have such different effects!
The afghani sounds delicious,
for her I cant wait.
Burmese sounds like its from the high hills in old Burma, where opium is grown aswell.
A wondeful mix if true.
Aloha
Sugabear,
the indica pheno back there seems to have leaves that are not extended much... Compared to her sister anyway.
I too like that nice equal body and head high,
though it varies with the context of the weed being smoked.
Its very much a trip how different phenos, let alone different strains,
can have such different effects!
The afghani sounds delicious,
for her I cant wait.
Burmese sounds like its from the high hills in old Burma, where opium is grown aswell.
A wondeful mix if true.
Aloha
BonsaiGrower
Occasional User
Sugabear.... ya I hear ya bro on the 2g/watt ... after I posted that I kinda thought...oh boy...this is gonna stir contraversey. Everytime I read a post about 1 gram per watt I think of my old closet grows. I always wondered why it was a rule that you couldn't grow more than a gram per watt. Like it's all about light/space management and relative size of roots to growth no?. How it worked for me was take clones and propogate in peet cubes. as soon as the roots are sticking out of the cubes pop the cube in a 2" pot and fill with soil. Switch to 12/12 and away you go. It's reasonable to grow an 8 gram cola on each plant if you have a good strain and water carefully. Trouble with this system is you need to water twice a day as the pots are really jammed and by the end of the cycle there isn't much left but roots. Very easy to fert burn and very easy to dry them past return if you get stuck away from your grow for a day or 2 as we all know can happen easy during a flowering cycle of 60+ days. I lost many a grow this way so it's not really a recommendation unless you are home everyday all the time and never travel. I don't have any pics of these grows unfortunatly but I used the same principle when I tried a cycle in my old floro tube cabinet. Even under floro tubes some of the plants were 8 gram colas ... and 2 of them I had to dig into the soil at harvest to get all of the bud....that was a first for that.
Again I'm no expert and am only telling what I have expereienced. Try it for yourself folks ......if you have the time and patience for all that watering.
Bulenath ... no prob bro ... I figured you would have seen that before but just in case...glad to help.
Peace
I'm no expert and refuse to get into an argument with anyone that may read this post. It's just one of many ways that you can grow a weed.
Again I'm no expert and am only telling what I have expereienced. Try it for yourself folks ......if you have the time and patience for all that watering.
Bulenath ... no prob bro ... I figured you would have seen that before but just in case...glad to help.
Peace
I'm no expert and refuse to get into an argument with anyone that may read this post. It's just one of many ways that you can grow a weed.
Well I just lost a whole post when the site whent down for maintence. I'll try to remember what I was saying....
just came across this thread for a 150 watt barrel grow that was pretty cool - take a look
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=44461&page=3&pp=15
yes Bulenath that is my understanding of the origins of the burmese. But keep in mind it has now been grown in Vancouver, BC for 20 years so it is acclimated to the indoor growing climate.
BonsaiGrower - I'm not trying to challenge the veracity of your claim I just wanted to make sure I was reading it right. 2 grams/watt is very impressive. There was this guy who said he was going to do the same kinda thing with 1 liter soda bottles and pull 5-6 oz from a 150 - I was all for it, but he never did it. I saw a c-24 setup with a 600 watter on a light rail over a wide and long ebb and flow space made for commercial SOG production and I bet it would have worked out mighty well. I think people just don't do SOG cause it's soo much work getting soo many clones together and ready on top of the fact that most places equate plant numbers to sentences in case of a bust and we all know the US federal minimums kick in at 50 and 100 plants too.
-suga
just came across this thread for a 150 watt barrel grow that was pretty cool - take a look
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=44461&page=3&pp=15
yes Bulenath that is my understanding of the origins of the burmese. But keep in mind it has now been grown in Vancouver, BC for 20 years so it is acclimated to the indoor growing climate.
BonsaiGrower - I'm not trying to challenge the veracity of your claim I just wanted to make sure I was reading it right. 2 grams/watt is very impressive. There was this guy who said he was going to do the same kinda thing with 1 liter soda bottles and pull 5-6 oz from a 150 - I was all for it, but he never did it. I saw a c-24 setup with a 600 watter on a light rail over a wide and long ebb and flow space made for commercial SOG production and I bet it would have worked out mighty well. I think people just don't do SOG cause it's soo much work getting soo many clones together and ready on top of the fact that most places equate plant numbers to sentences in case of a bust and we all know the US federal minimums kick in at 50 and 100 plants too.
-suga
BonsaiGrower
Occasional User
Sugabear ...hey man... nah I wasn't thinkin it would be you testing the veracity ...ha ...good choice of words ... it was just in case someone else was lookin to get into it...it might not be good for this thread and I wouldn't bite on the challenge anyways. I agree that 100 plants is crazy for the laws in some places. Here it doesn't matter ... 1 or 100 ... even though we may be soon to legalize...it's weird... they just judge on the set-up and attitude at time of bust from what I'm told. if it's obviously personal then it might go ok...even a closet of 100 plants looks like personal if they are small like that. A basement full of ebb-flo tables is gonna get ya time!!
one edit though as I read my last post...I typo'd somehow and I meant to say 4" pots .. dunno what I was thinkin when I hit the #2 key...anyways... that's my 2 cents ha
oh and suga...that link you posted of the barrell is pretty cool...props to him...it looks like he's in a 2 inch pot and did pretty good. Hope he comes over here to the 150 club!
Peace all
one edit though as I read my last post...I typo'd somehow and I meant to say 4" pots .. dunno what I was thinkin when I hit the #2 key...anyways... that's my 2 cents ha
oh and suga...that link you posted of the barrell is pretty cool...props to him...it looks like he's in a 2 inch pot and did pretty good. Hope he comes over here to the 150 club!
Peace all
