150w HPS Club and Resource Guide......

[Jubal]

^^^the vertical circular scrog guy? that stuff is badazz

hey is this plant small, or what? Is 1 oz a realistic expectation?



this is about 4 weeks, does it look like another 4, or longer? I'd like some input so I can anticipate when to stop ferting.



(stomach rumbles for this shot)


peace yawl

 

[sugabear_II]

Hey jubal - an ounce looks possible for sure with that plant - you'll be amazed at how much bud gets packed on in the last few weeks. I'd say another 4-5 weeks total for the finish. When you start seeing the first few pistals (hairs) change you can start to lower the nutrients and generally 2 weeks after that she'll be ready to chop. Given that you are in soil those last 2 weeks is when you'd flush water.

-suga

 

[Jubal]

Sugabear thanks for the encouragement. I'm without a paddle since I've never observed this process, and since I'm dry I have nothing to do but watch and wait...excruciating! I've read a lot but to hear it from another grower really counts...so I'll give her a big blast now and decrease until Dec 1st...Dec 15 would be 65 days...sounds like a plan. I flushed well this week but the runoff wasn't discolored at all. Cool. I'll check back in a week or two, with some shots of crystal covered calyxes~

 

[sugabear_II]

jubal - sounds like a plan - good luck and good growing.

So I chopped the indica pheno of the OB1 at 60 days of 12/12 here's some pictures.


-suga

 

[bigeydfish34]

hey y'all

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7579576587&category=41499

this look any good ?

 

[bounty29]

hey y'all

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7579576587&category=41499

this look any good ?

I dunno, there's no details, it doesn't say anywhere that they're new, who knows where they're from. A ballast is not something I want to gamble on, because they can be a large fire hazard. Plus eBay can be sketchy, but maybe that's just my opinion.

Well here are my girls, comin along decently, day 17 of 12/12

 

[Jaxom]

Wow!!! Looks like I have alot of catch reading to do, last time I posted we'd just passed 30 pages. Well, I have a whole weekend to catch up, in the mean time I do have a few questions about the box I'm attempting to build.

Brief description of box. 4' tall, 4' across, flower chamber will be 2'x2'x4'. Other side will be divided in half horizonally, half for electrnics/drying area, and lower half for mom's and clones. Flower chamber will have 150hps, and mom/clone cfls. After lengthy discussion it had been decided that I would be good with around 200cfm of exhaust. I manage to pick up two 107cfm muffin fans from American Scientific and Surplus company. This leads me to my first question.

The fans I purchased are 12v, 7.0w, but doesn't mention amps. It's been many years, isn't there a way I can figure out how many amps are required to power these to fans? I have a unique solution to powering these fans. While I've seen on here and on OG folks would get transformers from radio shack or even use a computer power supply, I've got a third alternative. Mirco Center comptuer stores sells a hard drive/cd rom power supply for checking them out via usb. This also comes with a very small transformer for a nominal $20. It has the standard hd/cd-rom plug or sata plug. I just want to make sure, although I'm very confident that this power supply can handle both fans.

Link me please!!! Of course I'll be doing searches as well, but I could use a hand replacing links. I was in the process of replacing my hard drive on my desktop when my laptop crashed and burned. I lost alot of links to the supplies and ideas I wanna use in my box. For example, in the flower chamber I wanna use a dark room air vent...lost the company's link. I had links also on how to light/air seal around hinges and locks as well as how to make fake drawers. Oh, and if anyone has a link on how to do those euro style kitchen cabinet hinges...I'd really appericate that too!

Well that's about it for now...off to do ALOT of reading and researching...


Jax

 

[bjudi]

hi, how much heat does a 150W HPS generate? i'm thinking about switching from my crappy 200W envirolite's to 150W HPS.. i mostly use the enviros due to heat issues.. i have only a 92mm computer fan blowing on the plants and the closet door a little bit open when lights are on (not possible to install better cooling/airflow systems since this is a rented student dorm apartment), that is good enough to keep temps around 27C/80F with lights on and about 21C/70F when off. so now i wonder if its possible with just a computer fan and a slightly open door to keep the same temps in my closet with a 150w hps? ..because i'm sure i will get better results with a 150w hps than 200w envirolite..
thanks!
-b-

 

[sugabear_II]

hey y'all

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7579576587&category=41499

this look any good ?

Hey bigeydfish34 - I personally wouldn't buy that ballast and ignitor combo off of e-bay for $29 + $10 for shipping = $39. Buying off ebay is always a gamble and you're really not getting any great deal. Often times you may get the bigger multi-tap ballasts or it might even be refurbished. If you check the first page of this thread you'll see a couple of links to other places that are tried and true by members here and the price will be just about the same.

-suga

 

[sugabear_II]

hi, how much heat does a 150W HPS generate? i'm thinking about switching from my crappy 200W envirolite's to 150W HPS.. i mostly use the enviros due to heat issues.. i have only a 92mm computer fan blowing on the plants and the closet door a little bit open when lights are on (not possible to install better cooling/airflow systems since this is a rented student dorm apartment), that is good enough to keep temps around 27C/80F with lights on and about 21C/70F when off. so now i wonder if its possible with just a computer fan and a slightly open door to keep the same temps in my closet with a 150w hps? ..because i'm sure i will get better results with a 150w hps than 200w envirolite..
thanks!
-b-

A 150 watt hps should produce less heat than a 200 watt envirolite. Also if you remote the ballast and keep it outside of the closet you will be keeping a great deal of the heat outside the closet. I think you should be fine with that.

However if I was you I would consider building a cabinet for your grow. You can put a lock on it and keep it outside of the closet. With a good carbon scrubber there is no smell. It just seems safer to me then having them in the closet. In the end they will not do as well because of the lack of proper ventilation in a closet and when it comes time to flower you're whole room will stink.

just a thought - I know it can be hard to get $$ together to build a cabinet when you're in school...

-suga

 

[killa-bud]

is this,umm ready to be pluged in? without any wireing or anything?

http://www.htgsupply.com/productdetail.asp?productID=438

and also,how do you scrog, i know how but not really,sort of confused

 

[Pipedream]

Yes, it ready to plug right in as long as you have standard US 120vac service in your home. As far as SCROGing goes, just check out many of the grows in this thread. Basically, all you do is set up your screen or grid, direct the individual branches thru it, keep them all close to the same height prior to flowering, and be sure to thin out the foilage below the screen and maintain airflow there. I haven't done it in years, but check with Sugabear if you need specifics.

 

[killa-bud]

thanks

 

[bounty29]

Now... I know it's always advised to use the same wattage bulb and ballast together. What if you wired two 70w bulbs in parallel so that the 150w was split between the two, 70w bulbs. Would this work?

 

[Ganico]

Maybe if it was two 75w bulbs, but if one blew, then the other probably would too. If you're thinking what I think you are thinking, then you should just build a flipbox.

 

[bounty29]

I was just wondering, for a better light footprint. I guess it's not in any serious plans of mine currently, I was just curious.

 

[Pipedream]

IMHO, putting two bulbs in parallel would just be asking for trouble. While you may be presenting the appropriate load to the ballast, you have effectively cut the internal resistance of that load in half. As it is, HPS bulbs when first fired go from a extremely high internal resistance to nearly no internal resistance at all. Because of that, one of the ballasts main functions is to restrict current flow when in an operating state. Decreasing the bulbs resistance by 50% will likely present enough of a high-resistance short to prevent either bulb from striking an arc.

The parameters of these systems are clsoely matched when they are designed. And, with the low cost of available components, it really doesn't make sense to take chances.

Again, JMHO PD

 

[sugabear_II]

I hear that pipedream - stick with the way it was meant to be setup - I don't think two 70's will fire from a 150 ballast.

I finally found a digital ballasted 150

http://www.hidhut.com/viewitem.php?item=5

for $80 - not a bad upgrade for those who have grown tired of the humm of the old school magnetic type ballasts.

-suga

 

[carlosdedurango]

I have question can i put a 150watt hps bulb in my 100watt hps sun system light?.and also are the bulbs from homedepot are they ok to use do they put out the same light as the og bulbs that come with the light systems? please let me know thank you peace!

 

[carlosdedurango]

Just got up and have yet to read through the posts....
Carlos check out the first page of this thread. There is a link to econolight where you can buy a 100hps. Also on the first page is a link to re-wiring it for a grow. If you cant figgure it out, we will be happy to help.
Yes you can get great results with the 100. I have seen teh 70HPS club and they had some awsome results. I believe 1-1/2+ oz's per harvest at best. They grow in computer cases! (the big ones).

I need to get stoned before I read the new posts!
...to be continued...

Thank you Bulenath i sure do have my hopes up on this light system to do the job a 1 oz sounds ok for 100watt hps light so i should only put like 2 plants under it or 3?