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150w HPS Club and Resource Guide......

Bulénath

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UserName,
Yeah I stop keeping a journal of my grow once the first harvest is over...
...weed is so dank...
Your plants look like they are doing good for week three...
What size are your pots, and what strain are you growing?
...the branches on the far left, and far right are going to make nice Kolas.

Linksys,
Your plants look almost ready!! Cant wait to see those harvest shots..

Aloha!
 

linksys

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Bulénath - thanks dude... yea im waitin for the trics to go 50/50 amber/cloudy... its only in a 1 gallon pot hopefully ill get a zip from it... i will put the harvest shots up :lurk: cant wait

ps - i cant remember the fourm i seen macro shots that told when to harvest... i think they were on OG as well... if anyone has the link please let me know :wave:
 
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G

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that's a kickass little setup there erb

bule....that particular cab is a mix of 4 or 5 bagseed strains, can't even remember what all's in there. 2 of them are in their own 1 gal pots, the rest are all laid together in a shallow storage tub.
 

green_grow

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i think i am rounding 3rd and heading for home with my plant . there seem to be a few amber coloured trichs now showing up just on the cola so far . do they cloud first, then turn amber, or is it the other way around ? (it's a nigerian nightmare, indoors in soil). i am looking for the "up" and "happy" effect. really want to stay away from much couchlock at all . should i just snip off the cola first (when it's ready) and let the other buds get some better light for a while, or would this not be a good move ?
 
G

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good to hear gg.......the crystals turn cloudy, then amber. you should harvest before you get too many amber crystals to avoid the couchlock. once you see mostly cloudy, DING!, she's done
 

linksys

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my plant looks to be done in a couple of days by looking at the trics... but she still has a good amount of white pistils... do they trun red during the drying process or is something wrong?
 
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sugabear_II

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linksys said:
my plant looks to be done in a couple of days by looking at the trics... but she still has a good amount of white pistils... do they trun red during the drying process or is something wrong?
yes they will turn red/orange/brown during drying. nothing is wrong. get ready to enjoy the fruits of your labor!
 
G

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some of them will but not all of them. i'm looking at the same thing as you buddy....everything in the closet: trichs will be ready this weekend, but the aspen still has mostly white hairs....must come down this weekend anyways.

the trichs don't lie, make sure you check trichs all over not just one spot. the leaf tips often read differently than the nugs.

i've noticed the trichs on top of the leaf tips are more mature than the underside..... :confused:
 
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linksys

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sugabear_II & User Name - thanks guys... i check trics on a bunch of spots... it seems to me the middle part of the plant is maturing faster than the top and the really bottom parts... might harvest in parts or just do the whole thing at once, maybe ill get a mix of couchlock and head high buds... thanks again for the help :wave:
 

Pipedream

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I have a friend that helps me out with any heavy aspects of growing when my sons or wife aren't around to pitch in. He doesn't grow himself, and only smokes a small amount. As a result, I like to hook him up with a small gift from each harvest. He's one of those folks that like a very energetic, acitve, chatty type high. I on the other hand, since I grow for pain management, go for a very narcotic couch-lock effect.

With my Jamaican Sativas I harvest a few large buds as soon as the glands are totally full and the first ones just start to cloud. After a suitable curing period, these are ideal to put my friends head exactly where he likes it. For my use, I let the remainder remain on the plant till they are almost all amber.

The defacto point of harvest for the average grower seems to be a 50/50 mix of cloudy and amber. It offers a bit of both worlds to enjoy. This holds true for Sativas, Indicas, and virtually all mixes. The old addage of watching the hairs really tells you nothing. Besides, they will continue to change color long after the bud has been harvested.
 

green_grow

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pipe ... what do you mean by the "glands being totally full" . i am a rookie and dont understand some of the lingo . by "glands" are you referring to the trichomes ?
 

Pipedream

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Yep, you got it. They start as just bumps on the leaves and buds. Then they become little stalks, and eventually develop bulbous tops. Once they look like little "Tootsie-pops" they will go thru a color change from clear to cloudy to amber. They can be harvested at any time during the transformation depending on what the grower desires in the way of intensity and effect.
 

bounty29

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Alright, I just got the cabinet I plan on growing in today, I got it from Staples for $30. The inside is about 19" wide, 18" deep, and maybe 26" high. The link to the cabinet is below. I need to get some plywood for the back because it just came with that flimsy cardboard type thing. I also need to figure out my ventilation system. I think I'm going to mount ten 15w CFLs onto the bottom of the adjustable shelf for vegging, and figure out some way to mount the 150w HPS, or design a hood for it or something. Any suggestions?

http://www.staples.com/webapp/wcs/s...0051&langId=-1&productId=143880&cmArea=SEARCH
 

green_grow

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if you can fit that many cfls in there then go for it . once you get your lights turned on you can check temps and go from there .
 

Bulénath

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Bounty, your cabinet is 26" high, and your planning on vegging in the same cab?...

Dosent sound right. Hope you made a typo.. If not, your going to need a seperate cabinet for vegging. A height of 26" is right aroud the shortest you want to go for flowering alone, and a little higher couldent do any harm at all! Sugabear flowers in a short cab, forgot the specs..
I flower in a 36" Height,
and Pipedream's may be taller than that...?


19" x 18" Is roughly 2.4 square feet or so. Your going about 63 watts per sq foot... Not just a little excessive and therfor less efficent for a flowering space. You could go a little bigger and taller, and having a seperate vegging chamber is only more easy to construct against light leaks.

However, if your using 15-19 watt CFL's for vegging, mothers, clones, you could go about 55-65 Per square foot, with GOOD ventilation. Clones on the bottom, hidden beneath the thick foliage.
The famous Bushy Old Grower suggests 35-50watts per sqare foot vegging, however, we are talking about 15-19 watt CFL's for a small, micro grow, where you need the nodes tight and small and the plant healthy when only 1/8" from the bulb at the end of week 3!!!

But 150 watts for vegging total in 2.4 square feet...
... Thats enough for 2-3 mothers and 8-9 vegging plants at once, WITH a cloning plastic camber at the very bottom, maybe more! You could use that space to make up MANY 150HPS cabs a perpetual harvest!

With 1 square foot and 57 watts of CFL, my three babies under a 19 watt 6500K CFL each did perfect! Small tight nodes and not to much humidity loss. However, I still have room in the middle for a Mother plant and a cloning box to fit at the bottom-front!
(I HAVE YET TO ATTEMPT, BUT IT SHOULD WORK)




Imagine the mother in the middle, streching toward the lights, as she gets pulled back toward the door covering the plastic cloning box.... I will bet my left testicle this idea will work.



This will be enough space for a perpetual to feed up to THREE 150 HPS cabs alone!!!...
One cab for the last 14-16 weeks until harvest of TWO POTS.
One cab for two fresh vegging plants for weeks 7-8 of TWO POTS
One cab for a LARGE stativa thats allowed to go ape shit in ONE POT.

(133 day flowering strain. Perhaps a quicker strain thats left to veg longer would be best....)

My last grow had one pot in a 3 square foot area and this stativa took over almost the ENTIRE space.. More like 70% but still, it was my first grow with a few mistakes at first too...!!






...possibly two mothers and two vegging plants, for two 150 cabs!..but we shall see about the two mother thing.

.. But for sure one mother and 3 Vegging with a clone box!
all in a 12" x 12" space....Remember I have 2 cubic feet and a 70cfm fan, but no fan IN the actual light chamber cooling the bulbs... I still have to use an AirCondition because ambient temps here at night can be 79F, and 87 during the day.

Just somethings to consider. Good luck friend:)
Aloha!
 
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bounty29

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Ugh I just wrote up a huge response and accidentally closed the window. You'll hear from me tomorrow!
 
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