150w HPS Club and Resource Guide......

[Guest]

150w hps mostly, theres another 96w of cfl for better coverage

 

[soxx16]

lookin good rkrone!

here's my go at the 150. 4 og kush bagseed.









just turned to 12/12 a few days ago. let the fun begin...

 

[Guest]

looks good soxx

 

[sugabear_II]

reeferdan - the cabinet is looking nice - the clones probably didn't stretch to full potential because of the transplant at the same time - also realize that they have another 7-10 days to stretch - the stretch period is from the beginning of 12/12 to usually the third week of 12/12 - this is when internodes lengthen. After stretch is over you can still expect another 6-10" of bud growth on top of that.

So don't be alarmed if you're feeling like things aren't big enough in there - I imagine before too long they'll be pretty filled in. If not you'll know to veg a little longer for the next grow.

Propoline - I am diggin your cabinet bro - nice and clean

rkrone - looking quiet full in there - I see some nice colas forming - how many weeks in are you?

Soxx - those look healthy - OG kush bagseed, huh? so those could be some OG kush S1s? make sure to clone 'em

-suga

 

[ReeferDan]

do you guys think i should lower the lights/raise the plants up... so the plants are next to the lights? They probably arent getting the best of the lights when they are under em like that eh? The whole box is bright as hell though, so maybe they are fine?

 

[Guest]

im ranging from like 70 days 12/12 to around 27 days 12/12, and thanks for the compliment suga.

 

[Pipedream]

dang' everyone's set-up are looking so sweet.

I guess I'll have to break out the digicam and drop a few updates in here myself.

Nice to see all the new faces and a bunch of the "old timers" stil hanging in here.

rk - just spotted the post count under your avatar. Dude, when do you have time to tend your garden? LOL.

Regards all, PD & Jr

 

[Guest]

pipedream, i have a lot to say , and when im not here im in my gardens, as long as the lights are on

 

[igrowdadankest]

I think I going to start updating here aswell as in the Mandala forum.Here Hashberry still babies but coming along.This one was growing at a slow pace and has picked up alittle since I transplanted it in Light Warrior there was also some yellowing but that stopped also after the transplant.BTW its around 11 days old.

This one came up last night and stretched becouse it was in the corner of my space but I can burry it deeper next time I transplant.I think I may have a different pheno becouse the oldest had thin leaves when it sprouted.

Here is the youngest one just came up this morning and has been nibbled on by some knats or fruitflies dont know which.I am getting some pest strips soon to rid of them.

Here is an older pic of the space Im using is 5x2x1 1/2 I lined the bottom with a trashbag so I could clean up spills and whatnot easy.
I am using FFLW but I think I when I transplant into 2 gallon grow bags.The nutes Im using are the florabloom grow and micro nutes here is a pic of them.

If I missed anything and I am sure I did just tell me and I'll post it.I seen I did not post a pic of the space here you go Im high so that must be why

 

[sugabear_II]

do you guys think i should lower the lights/raise the plants up... so the plants are next to the lights? They probably arent getting the best of the lights when they are under em like that eh? The whole box is bright as hell though, so maybe they are fine?

I'd raise 'em up and see how they react.

You are going to have to do some fine tuning to see how things work best.

Maybe raise two and leave two lower and compare growth.

-suga

 

[ReeferDan]

cool, i'll give it a try. I just looked in on em yesterday and they stretched some more! The ones taht were like 10" before are now about 13" and the ones that were 8" are now about 11". I totally forgot about the internode length stretching... i was worried because i could tell that they had flower tops on all of the branches, so i didnt think they were going to grow any more nodes, but now that you mentioned the stretching of internodes i said to myself "duh...the stretch !!!" haha

Others who have grown this strain said it finishes real quick... like 6-7 weeks so im excited to see the explosive growth that should happen in the next few weeks.

 

[qdavid]

I have a question. I've searched a bunch but can't find the answer. I have a couple of grows under my belt, just using CFLs. But I want to increase the yield so I bought one of those 150W security HPS from Lowe's. The sucker is heavy enough so putting it up will be a chore in itself. I have a small cab so the light will have to sort of be outside the cab, with the doors left open. My question is about venting. Right now I use about 3 fans anyway along with this useless computer fan that's inside the cab. I'm wondering if a 150 generates enough heat that I'll have to rig up it's own vent, like with an inline venting to the outside, or if fans will be enough?

 

[Pipedream]

qdavid -

First off, there's no reason to suspend all that weight from the top of the cab, or have all of the excess heat of the ballast build up. Follow the link in Sugabear's signature to see a very easy and inexpensive way to convert your lamp to a remote ballast unit.

Second, lots of folks use a 150 without a cooltube or dedicated fan/vent. It all depends on the size of you cabinet, the material its made from, and the amount of air flowing through it. I myself only have a single computer fan for everything, but my box is on the large side. The best thing to do is get everything all up and running, then let it cook overnight without any plants. Take some temp readings and see where you stand.

 

[sugabear_II]

I have a question. I've searched a bunch but can't find the answer. I have a couple of grows under my belt, just using CFLs. But I want to increase the yield so I bought one of those 150W security HPS from Lowe's. The sucker is heavy enough so putting it up will be a chore in itself. I have a small cab so the light will have to sort of be outside the cab, with the doors left open. My question is about venting. Right now I use about 3 fans anyway along with this useless computer fan that's inside the cab. I'm wondering if a 150 generates enough heat that I'll have to rig up it's own vent, like with an inline venting to the outside, or if fans will be enough?

hmm... it would help if you had pictures for me to understand your space better....

A 150, when remote ballasted, is pretty cool. Check the thread linked (click on the blue words) in my signature about converting a security lamp into a remote ballasted grow light.

I think you'll find that you can easily incorporate the lamp and socket plus a reflector inside your cabinet once you have done this.

Without knowing how you are exhausting your cabinet I will say that people have successfully used computer fans to cool 150 watt grows.

It becomes harder when you need to add carbon filtration to cover the smell of stinky plants though and many (myself included) choose a stronger HVAC type fan - either a blower (134 CFM dayton is the classic NGB fan, stanley, etc) an inline (fantech, vortex - often with a speed controller) or bathroom fans like the ultra quiet panasonic whisper fans.

Cool tubing IMO is not required for a 150 as long as you are exhausting the air in your cabinet efficiently.

Although I do have to say there are advantages to doing a cool tubed / air cooled hood / or separate light chamber with separate fans that should not be overlooked. Check out red_Greenery's 150 watt cabinet for a very nice setup that puts the 150 heat in it's own chamber.



-suga

 

[sugabear_II]

pipedream - I think you and I were both composing responses at the same time - too funny - hey weren't you supposed to break out the digi and share some shots ?

-suga

 

[qdavid]

hmm... it would help if you had pictures for me to understand your space better....

A 150, when remote ballasted, is pretty cool. Check the thread linked (click on the blue words) in my signature about converting a security lamp into a remote ballasted grow light.

I think you'll find that you can easily incorporate the lamp and socket plus a reflector inside your cabinet once you have done this.

Without knowing how you are exhausting your cabinet I will say that people have successfully used computer fans to cool 150 watt grows.

It becomes harder when you need to add carbon filtration to cover the smell of stinky plants though and many (myself included) choose a stronger HVAC type fan - either a blower (134 CFM dayton is the classic NGB fan, stanley, etc) an inline (fantech, vortex - often with a speed controller) or bathroom fans like the ultra quiet panasonic whisper fans.

Cool tubing IMO is not required for a 150 as long as you are exhausting the air in your cabinet efficiently.

Although I do have to say there are advantages to doing a cool tubed / air cooled hood / or separate light chamber with separate fans that should not be overlooked. Check out red_Greenery's 150 watt cabinet for a very nice setup that puts the 150 heat in it's own chamber.



-suga

Thanks for the input guys. I'm just not so sure that the labor involved would be worth the extra yield (some estimates say as much as 3X). I'm just a personal use grower and CFLs will do for now I guess. But if I do get a wild hair and decide to do it, taking that sucker apart is definitely the way to go. Thanks for the link.

 

[sugabear_II]

Thanks for the input guys. I'm just not so sure that the labor involved would be worth the extra yield (some estimates say as much as 3X). I'm just a personal use grower and CFLs will do for now I guess. But if I do get a wild hair and decide to do it, taking that sucker apart is definitely the way to go. Thanks for the link.

it's not that much labor - I'd say most finish the project in around 2-4 hours.

The difference in yield I cannot say as I don't know how many watts of CFL you use.

a 150 I can tell you will produce on average around 3oz per cycle.

 

[sir.smokealot]

hi all

newb Q: is there a good ec meter that won't break my bank?

thanks in advance

 

[softy 12pack]

Hi, guys, took me about a week of reading but i finally real all the pages here. i got a 150 comming today. woooo hoooo this is the greatest most inspiring thread in all of time. i just love it.

 

[sugabear_II]

Well I got two 150w hps ballasts a while back

One is "Advance" brand and has a capacitor, and a multi-tap for different voltages
The other is the cheap e-conolight one with no capacitor

Which one do y'all think is better?
Does the capacitor even matter?

I haven't wired the Advance brand one up yet, but the e-conolight ballast hums like a bitch


Oh, and how loud are the dayton 134cfm fans?

I bet the advanced one will hum less than the e-conolight one.

the 134cfm dayton is as loud as a quiet airpump - quieter than most bathroom fans - I slept with it in the same room - quieter than a humming balast. Can't usually be heard in the bedroom unless you're in the bedroom.

newb Q: is there a good ec meter that won't break my bank?

I like my Sharp TDS meter from milwaukee - do some searching on google and you'll be able to find it for around $50-60. I've also used a cheapo e-bay direct from China no-name PH meter - and well it worked but it was not water proof and I did drop the TDS meter in a res once and nearly did the same to the cheapo PH meter - the PH meter would have died but the Sharp TDS meter was fine after submersion. I think Milwaukee also makes some cheaper models that will probably work well.