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150w HPS Club and Resource Guide......
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eLiguL
Hello all,
I was wondering if there were any Canadians in here and where they purchased their 150w from?
I called econolight today and unfortunately they do not deliver to Canada. The only place I was able to locate a 150w HPS was from Rona and it retails for $91 before taxes. If anyone knows of a cheaper source for lights I would be in ur debt.
BTW I love this thread as it is slowly becoming my bible. HAHA.
I was wondering if there were any Canadians in here and where they purchased their 150w from?
I called econolight today and unfortunately they do not deliver to Canada. The only place I was able to locate a 150w HPS was from Rona and it retails for $91 before taxes. If anyone knows of a cheaper source for lights I would be in ur debt.
BTW I love this thread as it is slowly becoming my bible. HAHA.
eLiguL, got any mates in another country? Then they could receive your HPS and post it on to you. Hell, maybe you could even find a friendly chap in this thread to help ya with it 
rasta
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www.hidhut.com they charge alil extra to ship to canada i think but u can get a digi 150 ballast for 79.99 and the rest of the stuff for not so much extra for the bulb if u dont wana go fancy u can go to www.1000bulbs.comeLiguL said:
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Siddartha said:
It'd be hard for me to say which is better. I think that either way you'd be satisfied and I'd go with what ever you'd get a better deal on. I've been happy with my purchase, but I'm sure I'd be happy with any inline fan. These fans are scaled down versions of restaurant (kitchen/restaurant exhaust) which are meant to be run in higher temps and also to run for long periods of time without issues. Properly cared for it could last many years.
I don't think it really matters one way or another; just get one. You'll thank yourself when you do upgrade.
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Thanks for the quick replies Rasta and HOTC
HOTC: That is definately a possibility and I might just have to look into that.
Rasta: HIDHUT has their lights in pieces and im no electrician. The Digi ballast goes for $80USD with delivery that would be over $91CAD which is what im looking at for a fully wired 150w HPS from Rona locally.
Does anyone know Fat Puta from the earlier post in this thread??? He is located in Canada but it seems he stopped posting in 2006.
HOTC: That is definately a possibility and I might just have to look into that.
Rasta: HIDHUT has their lights in pieces and im no electrician. The Digi ballast goes for $80USD with delivery that would be over $91CAD which is what im looking at for a fully wired 150w HPS from Rona locally.
Does anyone know Fat Puta from the earlier post in this thread??? He is located in Canada but it seems he stopped posting in 2006.
J-Roc
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eLiguL, rona is huge.. i couldlnt find shit in there.. i went to a specialty grow store in my city here in canada with the bulb i think the bare ballast was like 120$
mine is a nice big 150..
but if i had found one like that at the hardware store i might have gone that way too
mine is a nice big 150..
but if i had found one like that at the hardware store i might have gone that way too
J-Roc - Welcome aboard. The only requirement is an interest in both the 150w HPS & growing your own, and the desire to share info with the rest of us. Looks like you are already well on the right path.
Siddartha - Go with the thinner one. It's strong enough for support, plus the heavier one will tend to retain more heat inside the box.
Siddartha - Go with the thinner one. It's strong enough for support, plus the heavier one will tend to retain more heat inside the box.
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Hey DiscoDuck, J-Roc
DiscoDuck: The pickings are pretty slim for 150w's on ebay.ca. There is one guy who is selling some 150w HPS that he salvaged from school. Heres the link if anyone is interested EBAY AUCTION. My only concern is that they are in the vertical position and im uncertain if they will fire(light up) in the universal(horizontal) position.
J-Roc: Im not sure where in Canada you are exactly but im in Ontario and the Rona's here carry this light Globe 150w HPS Security Light for $91.87 before taxes. The smaller Rona thats closer to my house didnt carry it but a larger Rona thats further away from me did so I guess it varies from store to store.
DiscoDuck: The pickings are pretty slim for 150w's on ebay.ca. There is one guy who is selling some 150w HPS that he salvaged from school. Heres the link if anyone is interested EBAY AUCTION. My only concern is that they are in the vertical position and im uncertain if they will fire(light up) in the universal(horizontal) position.
J-Roc: Im not sure where in Canada you are exactly but im in Ontario and the Rona's here carry this light Globe 150w HPS Security Light for $91.87 before taxes. The smaller Rona thats closer to my house didnt carry it but a larger Rona thats further away from me did so I guess it varies from store to store.
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rasta
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that light from rona will work but u should take a look at sugarbears DIY remote conversion its in his sig. im telling u bro u dont need to be an electrician to wire these things its just a couple wires. u gotta match the colors hahaha its pretty fool proof. i did mine no problem and even tho the lights at HID hut are alil more expencive they are nicer i personally am going to be going digi 150 for my next grow. and that would be less work then rewiring the one from rona. u would just be connecting some cords together. neway either way u would be fine. but with the one from rona unless u rewire it u may run into heat problems cuz they can get really hott. aaaah rambling. haha ok im done. goodluck peace
neway either way u would be fine. but with the one from rona unless u rewire it u may run into heat problems cuz they can get really hott. aaaah rambling. haha ok im done. goodluck peace
wowie -- busy here in the 150 club as of late - welcome 
to all the new folks so glad to see the ranks swelling.
Siddartha - I used a 256cfm dayton to exhaust a c25 running a 400watt hps with ballast inside and pushing through a carbon filter on the back. Those inline fans (either one) will be more than enough to exhaust two 150s. Yield wise I would say 4+ ounces easy if you make some mistakes 5-6 after you get thing dialed. I'm kinda wondering why you are thinking of cool tubes? the 150 is pretty darned cool to run and doesn't require a cool tube - plus you will lose some lumens to the glass and not get as good of a lighting footprint with the cool tube.
I know I posted this a few pages back but it's worth reposting in my opinion just to show how cool these 150's run - that's a bare bulb - no cool tubing going on here and look at how close the plant is
to all the new folks so glad to see the ranks swelling.Siddartha - I used a 256cfm dayton to exhaust a c25 running a 400watt hps with ballast inside and pushing through a carbon filter on the back. Those inline fans (either one) will be more than enough to exhaust two 150s. Yield wise I would say 4+ ounces easy if you make some mistakes 5-6 after you get thing dialed. I'm kinda wondering why you are thinking of cool tubes? the 150 is pretty darned cool to run and doesn't require a cool tube - plus you will lose some lumens to the glass and not get as good of a lighting footprint with the cool tube.
I know I posted this a few pages back but it's worth reposting in my opinion just to show how cool these 150's run - that's a bare bulb - no cool tubing going on here and look at how close the plant is
J-Roc
Active member
Thanks Pipedream
ill keep this thread pinned on my sig
eligul, i live in alberta.. but ima gonna have to assume rona is the same everywhere..
the only definate advice i can give you is. RUSH THIS DECISION! buy somthing that your going to replace in a month for 3 times as much $$! START GROWING ASAP WITH WHATEVER! CUZ THATS WHATS GONNA HAPPEN ANYWAYS!
ill keep this thread pinned on my sig
eligul, i live in alberta.. but ima gonna have to assume rona is the same everywhere..
the only definate advice i can give you is. RUSH THIS DECISION! buy somthing that your going to replace in a month for 3 times as much $$! START GROWING ASAP WITH WHATEVER! CUZ THATS WHATS GONNA HAPPEN ANYWAYS!
eligul ... 91.00 for a 150hps isnt at all bad. i actually paid more than that for mine from a lighting supply store in b.c. remember that you will be saving quite a few dollars on shipping and you will be getting brand new equipment with warranty. also, by the end of your second grow (if not your first) it will have paid for itself.
dont be intimidated by the thought of wiring the ballast remotely. we can walk you through that. with sufficient cooling you could even leave the ballast in the cabinet with the bulb, but most people mount it remotely.
dont be intimidated by the thought of wiring the ballast remotely. we can walk you through that. with sufficient cooling you could even leave the ballast in the cabinet with the bulb, but most people mount it remotely.
Pipedream- I figured as much, I think it's cheaper, as well!
sugabear- I figure I might go with 250 watters later or (more likely) a single 400w, so having the fan sooner than later won't hurt.
I was thinking about making it very similar to YUKON's extremely well laid-out design. The dimensions are looking to be about:
Overall: 3.5 ft wide x 2 ft deep x 3.5 ft tall
Flower: 2.5 ft wide x 2 ft deep x 3.5 ft tall
Veg/Mom/Clone: 1 ft wide x 2 ft deep x 2 ft tall
Util./Scrubber: 1 ft wide x 2 ft deep x 1.5 ft tall
I made it a little taller to accommodate a larger light and a little wider so I can vary grow techniques and try new things. Also I made the utility are a little bigger so the scrubber can be built-in.
I plan on having the flower room on a 2x3 sliding tray. About how many clones would fit in this space comfortably for SoG, considering I've got air-cooled lights and 3.5ft of height? Would a 4 plant ScroG be a better idea? Eventually I'd like to set up something perpetually. I wanted to do this all in soil (moonshine mix) in grow bags for minimal fuss for my first run.
As for plants, getting a local clone may be possible, it would likely be a fairly sativa citrus something-or-other. I also have a seed from some damn good haze and various other good bagseed, but if the clone (or clones) falls thru I may just order genetics.
Whaddya's think?
Also thinking about a cab-redesign in a few grows to add co2, but that's getting ahead....
sugabear- I figure I might go with 250 watters later or (more likely) a single 400w, so having the fan sooner than later won't hurt
.I was thinking about making it very similar to YUKON's extremely well laid-out design. The dimensions are looking to be about:
Overall: 3.5 ft wide x 2 ft deep x 3.5 ft tall
Flower: 2.5 ft wide x 2 ft deep x 3.5 ft tall
Veg/Mom/Clone: 1 ft wide x 2 ft deep x 2 ft tall
Util./Scrubber: 1 ft wide x 2 ft deep x 1.5 ft tall
I made it a little taller to accommodate a larger light and a little wider so I can vary grow techniques and try new things. Also I made the utility are a little bigger so the scrubber can be built-in.
I plan on having the flower room on a 2x3 sliding tray. About how many clones would fit in this space comfortably for SoG, considering I've got air-cooled lights and 3.5ft of height? Would a 4 plant ScroG be a better idea? Eventually I'd like to set up something perpetually. I wanted to do this all in soil (moonshine mix) in grow bags for minimal fuss for my first run.
As for plants, getting a local clone may be possible, it would likely be a fairly sativa citrus something-or-other. I also have a seed from some damn good haze and various other good bagseed, but if the clone (or clones) falls thru I may just order genetics.
Whaddya's think?
Also thinking about a cab-redesign in a few grows to add co2, but that's getting ahead....
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eLiguL
Hey Rasta, J-Roc, green grow
Rasta At this point im trying to keep my little "hobby" as cost effective as possible as my other half isnt to keen on me growing in our home and spending money on this. There is actually a thread by Lemon and his digi ballast from HIDHUT that is causing him some problems you might wanna check it out before you purchase one yourself. Heres the link --> Lemons Thread
J-Roc I hear what your saying about getting into ASAP, I have this habit of planning my projects to death. I want a setup similiar to Yukons cab except with only 1 light, computer fans and 1 foot taller so I can have a storage space for my nutes/equipment. Ive actually priced everything out for my entire setup and its gonna run me $562.97 after everything is said and done.
green grow Thanks for the help its appreciated. Im sure ill be able to get my head around the wiring with Sugar's guide, if not your the first one ill come too lol. I also feel $91 isnt to bad a price for the light but I was just explorer other options if there were any to consider.
Pipedream I read what you mentioned to Siddartha about going with the .5in instead of the .75in wood panels and I might just have to take your advice as well.
Rasta At this point im trying to keep my little "hobby" as cost effective as possible as my other half isnt to keen on me growing in our home and spending money on this. There is actually a thread by Lemon and his digi ballast from HIDHUT that is causing him some problems you might wanna check it out before you purchase one yourself. Heres the link --> Lemons Thread
J-Roc I hear what your saying about getting into ASAP, I have this habit of planning my projects to death. I want a setup similiar to Yukons cab except with only 1 light, computer fans and 1 foot taller so I can have a storage space for my nutes/equipment. Ive actually priced everything out for my entire setup and its gonna run me $562.97 after everything is said and done.
green grow Thanks for the help its appreciated. Im sure ill be able to get my head around the wiring with Sugar's guide, if not your the first one ill come too lol. I also feel $91 isnt to bad a price for the light but I was just explorer other options if there were any to consider.
Pipedream I read what you mentioned to Siddartha about going with the .5in instead of the .75in wood panels and I might just have to take your advice as well.
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""At this point im trying to keep my little "hobby" as cost effective as possible as my other half isnt to keen on me growing in our home and spending money on this. There is actually a thread by Lemon and his digi ballast from HIDHUT that is causing him some problems you might wanna check it out before you purchase one yourself. """quote
hidhut will replace ballast that create interference,as there guarenteed not to
and it seems 400W digis dont seem to have as much of a problem,but 150s seem to alot
""At this point im trying to keep my little "hobby" as cost effective as possible as my other half isnt to keen on me growing in our home and spending money on this. There is actually a thread by Lemon and his digi ballast from HIDHUT that is causing him some problems you might wanna check it out before you purchase one yourself. """quote
hidhut will replace ballast that create interference,as there guarenteed not to
and it seems 400W digis dont seem to have as much of a problem,but 150s seem to alot
