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12/12 From Seed: A Different Way To Grow

i do same with cuttings after letting them settle in the pot for about a week and they do really good. Not massive bushes but definately big fat single cola plants, just short of 1oz per 10*10cm pot
 

Wu-tang

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I don't get it, your either a illegal grower or legal grower and at no time would sense

If your legal your either in it for the money or the pleasure (hobby)

People in it for the money want big yields and people who do it for a hobby enjoying growing the plant

If your illegal you want to keep the plant count low to avoid a harsh sentence so at no time would I advise people to do this it's counterproductive
 

Wu-tang

Member
I don't get it, your either a illegal grower or legal grower and at no time would it make sense to go straight to 12/12 from seed
 
I don't get it, your either a illegal grower or legal grower and at no time would sense

If your legal your either in it for the money or the pleasure (hobby)

People in it for the money want big yields and people who do it for a hobby enjoying growing the plant

If your illegal you want to keep the plant count low to avoid a harsh sentence so at no time would I advise people to do this it's counterproductive

space restrictions would be one reason
or just because they want to lol
i've went 12/12 from seed in smaller (2.5-3 qt) containers and
the yield was pretty surprising, about a half zip a piece.
 

o.u.r.

New member
Thinking about putting a few seeds out now...they'll be small and maybe not finish up but they'll be something.....
..
 

bonbon

Member
has anyone ever used super-cropping while doing the 12hour only photo period?
i think i will try it with some fem seed @ one plant per square foot(9 in a 3x3)maybe it'll increase weight & bulk.
 

bonbon

Member
I don't get it, your either a illegal grower or legal grower and at no time would sense
at no time would I advise people to do this it's counterproductive
is it any more productive than a 45 day vegetation?
I've seen long vegged plants that took a long time to produce a yield that someone could have gotten while inducing at around 6 or 8 inches with higher final weight to show for it in 70 -80 days or less instead of a leggy,spindly top heavy coconut palm looking thing that took about 5 or six months to finish with a sparse lame yield.
dont knock the method unless you've tried it out yourself....
 

Reg Dixon

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ICMag Donor
So I'm doing Somango47 from Positronics and Amnesia XXL from dinafem.

12/12 from seed. I've already topped one of somango47's and am fixing to top it again in a few days.
Going to top another one just the once and leave the rest.

Will post a diary link in my sig soon.

In the meantime here are some recent pics.



These are in 3 -4 liter pots and are about 3 weeks in from when they broke ground.

The Amnesia xxl auto is in the deeper pot at the back.

They have been dropped from a height and one of them snapped then it was burnt and is still alive, just.

Stop by my diary for regular 12/12 updates. This strain is meant to react well to 12/12. Have enjoyed success in the past with this method so here's hoping I don't mistreat them anymore!
 

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oldweed

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I will definitely experiment with this technique. All my years have made growth 24/0 or 18/6 and after flowering...... 20 years ... !!!

Now is the time to start with new experiences, thank you very much for this great thread.

I doubt arises, you use the same lamp from the beginning? HPS from the first day, or 20 days HM and then HPS? I doubt this.


Cheers
 

oldweed

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Dual spectrum HPS covers all bases. You start with flowering yellow light but you can start with any light in theory. It is the schedule.

Here is a link to my 12/12 from seed diary here on ICMAG....

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=292609


Thanks,

I have that great doubt, because HM is very white and blue light, good for branches and grow. HPS is very yellow, ideal for flowering.


I plan to use HM 20 days and then put HPS (all at 600w).

I dont have dual HPS, only pure HPS or MH ... I hope to do the right thing :)

I'll check their daily culture, thanks for the link.


Cheers!
 

oldweed

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Weird ... was thinking of using 7 liters and 16 coconut plants per oahora 120x120 .... after reading a lot, I have better measures if 3 liters and 25 potted plants ....

Fear of large branching Super Lemon Haze and Skunk ...., any experience?
 

Reg Dixon

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Weird ... was thinking of using 7 liters and 16 coconut plants per oahora 120x120 .... after reading a lot, I have better measures if 3 liters and 25 potted plants ....

Fear of large branching Super Lemon Haze and Skunk ...., any experience?

should be able to find loads of diaries for those strains. might even find some 12/12 ones if you search hard enough. :tiphat:
I dunno bout those numbers for that space though. plants can get pretty big in coco. even in smallish pots.
 

chak-ra

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Hey guys

Did anybody got more than 100g per plant yield with this 12/12 method?

Maybe some good tips to get bigger plants with this method.

1) plant directly in soil
2) get the light source as close to the plant as possible
3) use genetics with a fair amount of sativa in them
4) amend your soil with mycorrhizal fungi and bacteria complex
5) give your plants some room

Maybe this read might help some of you:
12/12 direct from seed

Also, you could use some high/low stress techniques to increase the yield.

All the best to people who try this method!

:tiphat:
 

chak-ra

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Just another quick question:

Has anyone noticed a higher calys-to-leaf ratio on their inflorescences when cultivated direct 12/12 from seed?

:tiphat:
 

Reg Dixon

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ICMag Donor
Hey guys

Did anybody got more than 100g per plant yield with this 12/12 method?

Maybe some good tips to get bigger plants with this method.

1) plant directly in soil
2) get the light source as close to the plant as possible
3) use genetics with a fair amount of sativa in them
4) amend your soil with mycorrhizal fungi and bacteria complex
5) give your plants some room

Maybe this read might help some of you:
12/12 direct from seed

Also, you could use some high/low stress techniques to increase the yield.

All the best to people who try this method!

:tiphat:

Had 118g off a Moby Dick grown 12/12 from seedling under CFL's. a lot of them though. :biggrin:
Lost 24g to mold though so it ended up being only 93g.

I like your tips. Here is where I'm at after 1 month of 12/12.....

The single shot is the Amnesia xxl auto from Dinafem and the 3 others are all Somango47 from Positronics. I've cheated a bit by spraying a product called 'evolution' from PM.
It is supposed to increase veg growth and delay flowering. So I'm going to empty the bottle on them. Almost empty now anyway. Maybe enough for one more application.
Seems to be working on the somango47's but not on the Amnesia xxl auto. Go figure. :tiphat:
 

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Dr.King

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Hey guys

Did anybody got more than 100g per plant yield with this 12/12 method?

Maybe some good tips to get bigger plants with this method.

1) plant directly in soil
2) get the light source as close to the plant as possible
3) use genetics with a fair amount of sativa in them
4) amend your soil with mycorrhizal fungi and bacteria complex
5) give your plants some room

Maybe this read might help some of you:
12/12 direct from seed

Also, you could use some high/low stress techniques to increase the yield.

All the best to people who try this method!

:tiphat:

Indeed you can. I've had quite a few. Mango Haze(4 oz), Moby Dick(3.5 oz) even Indica strains like White widow and Blueberry yield atleast 2 ozs. It's mainly about removing the lower branches to form a massive cola. Here is a current photo of one of my 5x5 tents running 12/12 from seed currently 6 weeks in. Mixture of Ace seeds mainly with a few special acceptations. They will all finish close together except the Oldtimer Hazes/Green Hazes which will take 18-24 weeks to flower.

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Reg Dixon

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I top mine Dr. I do it early of course. Do a bit of lollipopping myself but only up to the first proper sidebranch.
Do you mind me asking what is that you are growing in there? Looks like a well interesting set up.

This run I've topped them all except the auto. The 'evolution' product seems to be working well enough to use again next time I'm in 12/12 mode and I want to delay flowering on a plant and increase growth at the same time.
In fact if I could be bothered to find the right strains this kind of set up could be run perpetually in one tent. 12/12. Keep adding as space and time develop. Where I live it makes sense to only have one tent and 8 plants or less. So my 2.4 x1.2 x 2.0m tent with 2 x 600w is the biggest tent/set up I reckon I can get away with before crossing the threshold to a more serious category of the law.
TBH I think that 8 plants, grown correctly might be perfect for that space. Whether plants grown 12/12 would be able to fill that space is another matter.


Will be back in with pics of the plants as they continue on into flower. I'll be switching to flower nutes next week. The Amnesia XXL looks like she already needs them. The others will soon. They have 3 x flower stretch apparently so could get massive in these big air like pots!
 

Dr.King

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Do you mind me asking what is that you are growing in there? Looks like a well interesting set up.

Thanks. Currently have 4 Ace Bangi Hazes(Regs), 5 Ace Oldtimer Hazes(Regs), 3 Ace Green Hazes(Regs), 2 CBD Medi Hazes for my mother(Fems). CBDs Mango Haze was amazing last run, yielded nearly 4 oz from 12/12 with complete pain relief. 1 Paradise Dutch Dragon(Fem), 1 Cali Connection Girl Scout Cookie(Reg), 1 Seedism Hippie Killer(Fem), 1 Seedism Apple Jack(Fem), 1 Original Sensible Seeds Pure Africa(Fem), 1 Dr. Krippling Mango Chutney(Fem) and that's all 20 of them.
 

stihgnobevoli

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Indeed you can. I've had quite a few. Mango Haze(4 oz), Moby Dick(3.5 oz) even Indica strains like White widow and Blueberry yield atleast 2 ozs. It's mainly about removing the lower branches to form a massive cola. Here is a current photo of one of my 5x5 tents running 12/12 from seed currently 6 weeks in. Mixture of Ace seeds mainly with a few special acceptations. They will all finish close together except the Oldtimer Hazes/Green Hazes which will take 18-24 weeks to flower.

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whats that you're growing in? cornmeal?
 
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