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Type3Steve
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greenfinger3
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i neeeed some info please
i neeeed some info please
hi guys i'm new.... and i will try a 12/12 from seed but i need some info about the first week of nutrient.... wath do u think? veggy nutrient for the 1week?
please.... answ. thank so much.
i neeeed some info please
hi guys i'm new.... and i will try a 12/12 from seed but i need some info about the first week of nutrient.... wath do u think? veggy nutrient for the 1week?
please.... answ. thank so much.
you typically don't feed seedplants until the second/ 3rd week after the cotyledons start to yellow and fall off.
In it's simplest form:
Mix cheap, peat based,black potting soil with 2% chicken shit/seaweed pellets.
Per 100 liter of soil > Add 1 dl compost starter, 1 dl of wood ash, and one 1dl of dolomite lime
Using this simple mix, the next time you'll need to feed first time would be 3 weeks after the first signs of flowering.
Only water with rain/ reversed osmosis water/ or molten snow at 21C.
Mix cheap, peat based,black potting soil with 2% chicken shit/seaweed pellets.
Per 100 liter of soil > Add 1 dl compost starter, 1 dl of wood ash, and one 1dl of dolomite lime
Using this simple mix, the next time you'll need to feed first time would be 3 weeks after the first signs of flowering.
Only water with rain/ reversed osmosis water/ or molten snow at 21C.
Type3Steve
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Type3Steve
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Picture is from after 32 days from seed.
greenfinger3
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yes i know that.. but 4 the first week of nutrient i will put veggy nutrient.. right?
Depends on what your base mix is made of Greenfinger.
If there is already a plenty, you prolly should not be doing anything right now.
If you are on very poor soil, then yes, the veggy nutes will do, but sprouts also like a fair share of P & k so a bit of bloom ferts in the mix with your veg nutes would prolly be better.
But... be aware! > better be real carefull in the beginning.
And when I say carefull, then I'm talking just several milli liters of ferts per 5 liter of water. (depending on your ferts. > using organics, they can handle more of it then when using salt based ferts.)
Normally, on basic soil from your general garden store, a sprout should not need anything untill week 3, even if that soil is rather poor.
Have you got your humidity levels in check? Sprouts like high air humidity while soil moist content should be fairly low.
If there is already a plenty, you prolly should not be doing anything right now.
If you are on very poor soil, then yes, the veggy nutes will do, but sprouts also like a fair share of P & k so a bit of bloom ferts in the mix with your veg nutes would prolly be better.
But... be aware! > better be real carefull in the beginning.
And when I say carefull, then I'm talking just several milli liters of ferts per 5 liter of water. (depending on your ferts. > using organics, they can handle more of it then when using salt based ferts.)
Normally, on basic soil from your general garden store, a sprout should not need anything untill week 3, even if that soil is rather poor.
Have you got your humidity levels in check? Sprouts like high air humidity while soil moist content should be fairly low.
greenfinger3
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thank ofthehook... now i'm at 7 day of 12/12
humidity day 50% i've several problem with that
temperature 25 26 during day and durin the night 22 temp and 75 71% humid.
there are 6 baby with a 8 pot atami hydroponic and 400hps.. 11l pot.
aqua canna vega e acqua canna flores..
this is my little boat... thnk for the help.. and sorry for my english..
i really app. that.
humidity day 50% i've several problem with that
temperature 25 26 during day and durin the night 22 temp and 75 71% humid.
there are 6 baby with a 8 pot atami hydroponic and 400hps.. 11l pot.
aqua canna vega e acqua canna flores..
this is my little boat... thnk for the help.. and sorry for my english..
i really app. that.
sorry didn't understand. you feet veg nutes until they show sex then you switch to flower nutes like usual.
greenfinger3
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maybe i don't know i've tried the 1 week with veggy nut and at day 8 the flow nut.. now the plants look good 13-17cm high and 3 internodes.. colors and leaves are good light green i think no problem...
if you have advices tell me....
thanks
if you have advices tell me....
thanks
12/12 from seed. 4 x 400 wt.(1 vertical bulb & 3 horizontal with reflector) 1 cubic meter soil. 4 different White Russian crosses. Total dry trimmed yield 1700 gr.
^ Bubblegum x White Russian from seed on 12/12, one week before harvest.
Originally there were like 50 to 60 plants on this one square meter surface. Some earlyer finnishing ones were chopped out already.
This was the 3e uninterupted grow on the same 1200 liters of soil.
After terminating the project, one meter down at the bottom of the box we found a thick & white 'mat' of entangled roots.
> Pun intended to DWC entiousiasts claiming roots only grow anymore 10% in bloom, lol
> On 12/12 from seed, roots grow for 90% exclusively DURING bloom Grow was beeing looked after once a week using a semi-automatic watering system. > 4 cotton towels hanging from 4 suspended 15 liter buckets.
A plastic covered, vertical 'arm hole' in the soil, all the way down to the bottom, allowed to check upon correct moist conditions thoughout all dept layers of the soil.
More pics of same grow > https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=45309
very nice results offthehook!! The compost starter is for adding beneficial bacteria to the soil?? very smart!!
Peace S
Thanks mate. Was helping out a friend just. Lots of fuckups in the beginning too with no good fan controller n'such.
Hell, we managed to freeze the whole centre to death, lol. Should have been at least 2K if it was my investment. ^^
:shrug:On Compost starter: It also contains a rather high percentage undissolved N, hence, better be sparingly with it.
@ Thor, Plants were fed once a week starting week 3 of flowering.
Bio bizz line: Bio bloom, Bio grow,Top max, Algae-mac. All in equal dosis.
Ec ranges:
0.8 Ms > first feed.
Then increasing feed by 0.1 Ms weekly.
Then increasing feed by 0.2 Ms weekly about 3 weeks before anticipated harvest.
2.1 Ms > last feed.
If you're more into PPM's as in Ec/ms > just cut the Ms value in half, and it will give you the PPM reading my multi combo meter equaled.
Only molten snow water was used. Soil Ph was 6.0
Before feeding we let the tub dry up fairly well, so we could easely water 30 to 40 liter per manual feeding service during times they drank most.
The way to make sure our tub did not get to wet was to 'fist squeeze' some soil that was token totally down from underneath the 'arm hole'.
If after repeatedly and firm squeezing of the soil even the least liquid moist would show up from inbetween the knuckles, we knew saturation point down below had been reached, so watering was decreased immediatly there upon.
Sensing soil with the upperside of ones hand inside the 'armhole' at different soil levels should feel like a wet-paper-towel-that's-been-squeezed-dry-again-in-a-vice.
(Back in the days I used tensio meters for that, but cops took em all so meanwhile I managed to get handy at it without...)
On the surface of the soil was a plastic sheeting with holes in it for seeds to poke trough, enabling the upper layer to remain moist and to slide the cotton towels underneath.
Bio bizz line: Bio bloom, Bio grow,Top max, Algae-mac. All in equal dosis.
Ec ranges:
0.8 Ms > first feed.
Then increasing feed by 0.1 Ms weekly.
Then increasing feed by 0.2 Ms weekly about 3 weeks before anticipated harvest.
2.1 Ms > last feed.
If you're more into PPM's as in Ec/ms > just cut the Ms value in half, and it will give you the PPM reading my multi combo meter equaled.
Only molten snow water was used. Soil Ph was 6.0
Before feeding we let the tub dry up fairly well, so we could easely water 30 to 40 liter per manual feeding service during times they drank most.
The way to make sure our tub did not get to wet was to 'fist squeeze' some soil that was token totally down from underneath the 'arm hole'.
If after repeatedly and firm squeezing of the soil even the least liquid moist would show up from inbetween the knuckles, we knew saturation point down below had been reached, so watering was decreased immediatly there upon.
Sensing soil with the upperside of ones hand inside the 'armhole' at different soil levels should feel like a wet-paper-towel-that's-been-squeezed-dry-again-in-a-vice.
(Back in the days I used tensio meters for that, but cops took em all so meanwhile I managed to get handy at it without...)
On the surface of the soil was a plastic sheeting with holes in it for seeds to poke trough, enabling the upper layer to remain moist and to slide the cotton towels underneath.
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is this method 12/12 right for autoflowering??
i understand autoflowers are gonna flower anyway i would just run 24/0 so i can get the most out of it.
indianajones
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throwing seven into flower tomorrow, they are putting out their fourth set of leaves. 2 maybe 3 weeks veg,
2.5 quart containers that are a mix of coco/perlite/verm. feeding with h3ad's coco formula.
2.5 quart containers that are a mix of coco/perlite/verm. feeding with h3ad's coco formula.
