1 week old seedlings turning yellow

[C6H6]

so heres another little update.
after flushing the plants a couple days ago, and switching to a 24/0 light cycle, they seem to have picked up every one of them is looking much much healthier though the satori in picture #3 is still doing the fly trap thing, but its grown a lot bigger. All the plants still are exhibiting the yellow leaf tips which leads me to believe that the problem is heat. I switched the lights to a lower watts and cranked up the fan I had in front of my grow cabinets to full blast. It’s not so stealth anymore bit no one goes in my room and im home more often then not studying so its really not even an issue. I believe the problem with my leafs yellowing is a result of the temp getting a little to hot. Early on I was nervous and convinced that I was going to kill these 4 plants so not wanting to be without a school project I popped 4 more ww which have pretty much been untouched since sprouting, they are 2 weeks old now. Anyway they were put in the other grow cabinet I have where everything had remained the same, most importantly though no yellowing leafs. The only difference between the two grow cabinets is the one with the 4 younger ww has a low lower of watts of CFLs and a lower temps. Ill have to wait and see how this goes with the another variable changed.

 

[sirgrassalot]

We're rooting for you. I can hear the moans to that one now. LoL

 

[MynameStitch]

Good to hear, please update us soon with some pictures so we can see

 

[C6H6]

ok im stumped. i havent touched the plants since flushing them, i havnt changed one thing not even taken them out of the cabinit that their in and today i looked they all look wose then before. initally after i flushed them they looked increadebly happy and were growing at an alarming rate then boom they looked like this. it happened over night, because yesterday they did not look like this. what is going on here?

Ps the soil still feels a wet, not dry but not drenched either so i havn't watered them at all.

#1 HazeXSkunk 1

#2 Mandala satori

#3 madala satori

#4 Nrvana WW

 

[sirgrassalot]

So they're not burning anymore just starting to look sad & not as perky as after the flush which was 4 days ago? You can judge better than I if they need water. They look fine except for the burns & they may be thirsty. If the soil is moist, waiting another day won't kill them. Do you think one more day will dry them completely or will they still have a little moister in the soil? If their leaves start dropping down more than #2 Mandala satori then I'd water them. You should see growth on your next watering than they'll start looking sad again after a few days as they began to dry out. It's a continuous cycle you'll get to know by eye.

 

[C6H6]

some of them do look like they could use just a watering especially the ones on pictures #3, and #4. what im taking about and i apologize of not mentioning this sooner but on all the plants the new growth that is just starting to form is already turning yellow at the tips. i dont think my cell phone is picking up that great of detail but it there, baby leafs forming already with yellow tips. the first picture is a case and point. if you look to the right side, the plant seems to have dried and shriveled up, that was new growth that started immediately after the flush and seemingly over night its yellow, and shriveled up. A couple days ago when I posted that part of the plant was green and healthy looking.

 

[sirgrassalot]

They may have some nutes left in the soil? I'd give them one more good watering & see if there's improvement.

 

[MynameStitch]

When you flush your plants you also wash out not only the excess but also other nutrients too.

WHat damaged leaves will be damaged and will not recover, the stuff you are refearing too is tissue that is dead and it changes color to a different color of brown when it was burned.

You want to watch out for areas that were not affected, if it progresses then you have something to worry about, but as I agree with sirgrassalot for once! OMG I am going to have a heart attack! lol j/k

Your plants are going to have some stress from the flush, you may have been underwatering them slightly if they perked up after a flush.
So I would wait a bit before doing anything else, sometimes these take time to recover depending on the severity of it, do not throw different remedy's at it at once, do one thing at a time.

They are showing an effect of being overwatered which is no surprise, that happens.

After this gets fixed, just ensure you are watering enough.

They will yellow, when a plants roots sits in water they will show nitrogen problems even if there is plenty in the soil, soggy soil makes bad absorption problems for nitrogen. Overwatering and yellowing leaves are very common.

Also forgot to mention like sirgrass has said, if you did do a proper flush you won't see any more burns progressing, so lets hope you flushed properly as well.

 

[C6H6]

well i certinaly think i flushed them correctly watered them 3 times each time i let the water drain compleately before poring more water in. how long should i let them sit before they start to recover? after how long of keeping up what im doing, which consists of poring some water in the container ever 4 days or when ever the soil is dry, before i should start too look at other problems?
and if im understanding what has happened so far, just to verify the problem, the plants were first suffering from overwatering and nute burn?

 

[dontlockmeup]

I think Stitch was trying to tell you that your original problems were a cobination of two things.

1) overwatering by watering them every two days.

2) Lack of micro nutrients by watering them with distilled water.

to fix problem 1 water them less often. It sounds like you are already doing this.

to fix problem 2 use tap water. sounds like you are doing this too. I'm not sure about your soil but you probably need to adjust your ph to help solve the nutrient issue too. Stitch may have some insite on Gordons soil and the proper ph for it.

It's just going to take a little time for them to rebound. a large percentage of energy making material was damaged on your baby plants so they aren't just going to kick out of it as fast as if they had been larger plants.

As for a watering schedule, there really isn't a universal schedule that can be recommended. Every Garden is different and the plants in them will react to the conditions in the garden. Watering every 2 days is too often in pretty much any garden. if your soil dries in two days then your garden must be extremely hot and dry. I recommend you buying a $10 digital thermometer with humidity sensor so you can have an idea of what is really going on in your cab. Guessing if it is too hot or humid is hard. Having a device that tells you exactly what is happening will keep the guess work out of it and you will be able to make the proper adjustment to your cab based on real data not guessing.

I use red dixie cups for seedlings too. when I first put my germinated seedlings into the cups I only fill the cup about 3/4 of the way with soil ( I expect my seedlings to strecthc a little and this gives me room to add soil to support the plants instead of staking them) I never completely water all the soil in the cup. I water less than an oz. of water right on top of where the seed is and wait 5-6 days before watering again. my second watering I water with a little more water but still try to water as close to the seedling as possible. I don't saturate the soil in the cup till the third watering or so when the seedling is 10-12 days old(this is ussualy when I add the rest of the soil to my cups). When you finally get to the point where you are watering the whole cup every 2-3 days it's time for a transplant.

I know you are getting thrown a bunch of different info at once from different gardeners. Stitch is the "Dude" here. He can get you going the right direction. If you wonder about the advice someone is giving you look in their gallery and see if they can even grow plants that are up to your standards. Any retard can get online and start giving out bad advice so beware. In my experience most advice people give so freely is bad advice. you're gonna have to weed through all the bullshit like I had too do but eventually you will be smoking some bomb ass weed that you grew yourself. just don't give up.

peace

 

[sirgrassalot]

Yeah don't feed the little ones, that'll burn them as you found out. Not really the kind of help you needed. Even the dude can fuck your grow. So what's a hummer between friends. Watch what advice you listen too not who's. I take my own medicine.

 

[dontlockmeup]

The damage done to those plants wasn't nute burn from the 1/4 strength watering. It is the damage from the overwatering with distilled water finally catching up, it's not like that kind of shit just happens over night. Next watering ph your water around 6.3-6.5, just tap water. Do this for a couple of weeks and they should be fine. once you have 6 nodes start feeding at half strength and work your way up. Do get a thermometer and humidity sensor.

C6H6 this next part has nothing to do with your thread and you can just ignore it if you want. I appologize to you in advance for my behavoir but somethings need to be said.

Sirgrass my last post was not a stab at you. I don't understand why you would give me negative reputation for any of the information I offered in my last post. Did I tell him to do something wrong? if so make your point here in public like a man instead of in the reputation comments like a bitch. What in my post caused him to burn his plants in hmm the last couple of hours? "Ya burn the guys plants, way to go" huh? I have no idea who you are and I had no beef with you. What is between you and Stitch is between you and Stitch. I want no part in that fued. I have been reading Stitch's post for a couple of years now and have learned a lot from them. He/She helped me figure out a minor issue I was having a couple of months ago and now things are going perfect. Even earned a POTM nomination this month due to the adjustments Stitch helped me make. Just speaking from experience I've had with his/her help. No hummers going on here, unless you are sucking yourself off. Or would it be eatting yourself out, huh Pussy?

peace

 

[sirgrassalot]

I never said you did take a shot. I have no feud just expressing my thoughts. I don't know why you felt like explaining your post?? A little burn won't hurt much on top of the other problems. LoL

Now you're getting silly.

 

[dontlockmeup]

Explain why you gave me negative rep points then. Must have been something I said that made you feel that way right? I just can't understand what in my post caused him to burn his plants. That was basically what your comment says, "Ya burn the guys plants, way to go".

 

[MynameStitch]

Sirgrassalot is a guy who has nothing better to do and no life, he gave me beg rep too and was making fun of me cause I currently do not have a grow.

DOntlockmeup: He is not worth it, I would rather argue with a pile of shit than argue with him, he is a very jealous person I can tell you that and he thinks I damage plants and I don't know what I am talking about, BUT if you check his posts out you will see it's the other way around.

I totaly agree with what you are saying man, I will give ya some rep to make up for his as you deserve it totally anyways, a lot of times I forget to give it out anyways due to me being busy.

All grass does is go from thread to thread making one liners, his 271 posts is junk just to get his post count up, he does nothing more than cause problems and most of the grow doc's in this fourm have already seen it, he has butted heads with nearly all of them trying to prove them wrong and whenever someone makes a comment about me weather good or bad, he always says something and from what I have seen in his posts he is a very jealous person who has something against me cause I outed him on his bullshit advice he spits out from his trap he calls his mouth.
So lockmeup, I thank you very much for your kind words though.


For someone who is as old as you are assalot, you do nothing but sit at a computer posting one liners of bullshit; for someone who thinks they are funny, you take the cake for one liners that don't mean crap!

Lockmeup: He gave you neg K cause you made a good comment about me, he does not like it when peeps talk about me, it pisses him off lol He want to play his 1st grade game of neg K, that is all he knows how to do; he sounds like he works for the cop shop too; cause only ignorant cops would play the games he does.

 

[dontlockmeup]

That's funny. I was thinking to myself that this has to be a pig just trying to fuck peoples grows up. Hmmm. You think so too.Hmmm.

 

[sirgrassalot]

Keep check on your own advice don't worry about mine. Jealous LoL I have a garden & I have no problem growing. I've seen your wardrobe too LoL In fact I never had problems well nothing I couldn't fix myself. I don't explain my K, we don't need to leave any message. Leaving it blank would have been appropriate here though. I disapproved nuff said. So don't worry about my life & don't bitch about it if I'm enjoying it. (I do understand your sirgrassalot fixation)

Yo dude slip them their pacifier would yah. You proved nothing dude except to a few dummies that seem to think you're something & above the forum rules. Let me tell you, you don't impress me. Growing great Cannabis can be very simple. You're the cause of the shit on this board no one else. I've shown people time & time again you've been wrong with your mouthy advice. You also continue your personal assault on me after giving advice, this really detracts from any info you may be sharing. Makes you look like you don't have a life.

Yes your posts are full of verbiage & my one liners like 'hot soil' is all that's needed from me. I expect common sense to be a gimme. If you want the go ask dude board go there this is a public forum & most people that post want help from everyone that can offer assistance without the whining they get from the girls around here. K - C.

**Edit**
This is not the correct forum dontlockmeup for your nonsense. PM me & I'll give it to you straight if you like. I didn't start shit, I voiced my opinion?? (You have added 4 posts of shit) Maybe rethink getting off topic next post & just add your advice. You come on the forum whining about rep. I can't help you there, try some tap water. As for the type of person I am, I can tell you I don't look to others to fix my personal problems. I can take care of business myself.

 

[dontlockmeup]

So C6H6 has problems with his plants way before I ever post on his thread and I get the neg K saying "ya man burn his plants, way to go". Makes a whole lot of sense to me. Just goes to show what a putz you really are. Everything I told C6H6 is the truth, and I don't think I gave him any bad information at all. How does your comment relate to my post in any way? it doesn't. thats how. Nothing I told this guy to do would burn his plants. All you have to say is " I disapproved nuf said" Shows the type of person you are.

I think everyone should give this guy a taste of his own medicine and slam him with bad K for basically admitting to being a shit starter. Makes him feel good to sit behind his computer screen and start shit.

 

[MynameStitch]

Holy shit that is the longest post he made, too bad I ignored it and did not read it, just looked at how long it was and laughed lol

Peeps giving him bad K, he deserved it and I am glad cause that is all he does is sit behind his screen and talk shit; cause he can't do it in real life so he has to try to be a bad ass online.

They need to make a place where they teach people howto have manners online, he should be the first to stand in line to pay for it since he can't learn it on his own. Common sense seems to be a dying breed these days.

 

[C6H6]

sirgrassalot- i really do appreciate you help, i really do, having multiple perspectives on a situation is always a good thing. however from my measly point of view heres what i see. I dont think that stitch, dontlockmeup or anyone is trying to steal you thunder i think that their just trying to help show you where your missing some information when diagnosing a problem. i also think that maybe your taking it a bit personally.
example, microbes, i never would have thought that my plants at a week old need microbes to grow, i thought they were just fragile little seedling that needed as sterile of an environment as possible, thus the reason for my use of distilled water. Apparently i was wrong by leaps and bounds. the fact that Stitch is not actively growing just further perpetuates this point.
he may not be growing rite now, and he may have made the decision to never grow again, whatever his reason thats between him and the pot gods. but the fact that hes on here regularly sharing what hes managed to learn just goes to prove my point hes on here to help fellow grower remedy their individual situation, not to say that you arnt either mind you. i dont thing that anyone who took the time to compile something like this http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688 would be on here to give out bad advice. that rite there is more writing, research, experimentation then i hope to do in my entire life. once again im not saying that you dont know that, you very well may know all that from you own growing experiences and you may have that same information locked away in your head, the difference i see between his post and yours are that hes not only is able to tell whats wrong and how to fix it, but he can say why. this problem was caused because of... and for someone like me that is priceless information, its learning in action. heres what im saying instead of getting all worked up when he sez you may be wrong, instead explain your point of view, why you believe a particular problem has happened and what can be done about it, along with some examples. the leafs are yellow, and hes sez hes watering them every 2 days there for i think this is the problem... and heres what can be done to fix it. two thing happen when you do that first off, you may in fact show point out some little clue that he may not have seen, and when you both are discussing the problem many many things can come to light thats the beauty of having multiple perspectives on a problem.

Dontlockmeup - referring to post #50, you speak engineer very well.

stitch- enough said.