1 week old seedlings turning yellow

[C6H6]

Sounds like you are watering ok. I hope you weren't offended by the ?'s just asking cuz u r a noob. I don't know anything about the type of soil you are using, but if things were looking better with plain water and now after ferts. they go sour hmmm, I'd go back to plain water. Wait for Stitch to get back to you. she can help you better than I.

peace

not offended at all lets me know im on the right track.

things arnet going sour in fact there moving forward, plants are growing just they seem to have an N deficiency. every time i water then they seem to get bigger and bigger but the stems are red, and the bottom leafs are yellowing, they look exactly like the pictures stitch has in her guide describing the N deficiency. Im just wondering if a ½ strength mixture is strong enough to cure it and if watering every day with the ½ strength is a good idea or if im in fact inviting trouble again.
ive been researching the soil in an effort to find where i went wrong at the start so i dont mess up with some hashberry seeds i just got along with others. heres what found. the soil is made locally in colorado, its organic and contains 25% work castings. when i was making my soil concoction i didn't see those big bold letters on the bag saying "25% worm castings added" so i went ahead and added more worm castings and too much of a good thing can be a bad thing im thinking. did find out that it is a very bad idea to just use this soil without any perlite added because when it drys out it gets really hard and water can penetrate it. lucky for me i didn't do this though

 

[MynameStitch]

i feel as though im overwatering the plants again. the last three days the containers have felt really light and ive confirmed this by sticking my fingers in the soil and sure enough its dry. and in the last three days despite the fact that ive watered every day the plants are showing no signs at all of overwatering. They are however showing signs of N deficiency, yellowing lower leafs, red stems and even a little red on the leafs themselves. ive been watering with a 1/2 strength mixture of the age old grow but im not sure if i should be watering like the back of the bottle sez with every watering (which is what ive been doing).

You do not want to feed every watering, you always want to go by how heavy and light the pots are when you water, this will ensure the water in the bottom of the pots has a chance to dry out a bit.


Sounds like you may not be watering enough, can you post an updated picture of this plant?
WHat is 1/2 dosage, what is the amount of food/water you are using?
When your soil drys out does it get crackly? Like does it pull together in clumps?
It sounds like to me you are not getting them wet enough, if you are feeding every 3 dasys or every watering they should not be showing signs of the problem, though a lockout can occur, but it would be in a form of burning.

So ime it sounds like it may not be watering enough...... possibly I would have to see the picture of the plant and the pot size recent pics help.

If you are not watering enough and your only using 1/2 strength depending on the dosage they are not getting alot.
I would also not poke holes around the plant you can possibly damage root hairs.
dontlockmeup was stearing you in the right direction and gave some great advice to you C6H6.

 

[C6H6]

Hase X skunk

Satori

satori

white widow

1/2 strgenth is 1/2 Teaspoon mixed with 1 gallon of water that has been allowed to sit out for 24 hours, using just the age old grow NPK values 12-6-6. im not poking holes in the soil just scratching the surface around the stem so that when i pore the water it forms a little pool that seeps into the soil then i fill it again let it soak and repeate the process untill the water starts to drip out the bottom. when the soil drys out it gets clumpy but its easily broken apart.

i started feeding them last week with a 1/4 tsp per gallon and fed them every other watering. 4 days ago i noticed the stems getting really red/purple and the lower most leafs were truning yellow, i tried to captuer it the best i could. searched a little and thats why i think its an N defiency they look exactly like what stitch has in her guide. i mixed up the 1/2 strgenth, and fed them because it was the day they needed to be fed. thats when i noticed on the back of the bottles it said "apply with each watering" so i figured that my problems were because i wan't following directions. well the next day after the light shut off i went to pick up the plants and they felt light so i stuck my finger in the soil and it was dry. so i watered again with the 1/2 stregenth. next day same story when the lights went out i picked up the plants and they were light so i watered them again with the 1/2 stregenth. today is the same story they feel light when i pick them up and when i stick my finger in the soil it feels dry. i havnt done anything with them today apart from the soil and weight check.

 

[MynameStitch]

In crease the dossage a bit, they need 1/2 teaspoon to 1 tsp a gallon of water.

DO not use it every other watering, normally you don't want to listen to the bottle other wise you burn them, but in your situation you just need to up the dosage, not use it every watering.

So go ahead and increase the dosage by 1/2 teaspoon and in another week increase it to 1 tsp per gallon.

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

what a bunch of arguing fuckers in here! WTF!
c6h6, i dont know why stitch said use tap, you should use RO/drinking/distilled.
usualy stich says use ro... the 7 ph is a tad too high, but if u use distilled + ferts you should be ok. i believe that the haze and satori need more nuts, try puting a small bit maybe 1/2 tsp of epsom salt into a liter of water for them with the nutes u use.
id seriousely think about getting a few gallons of RO on hand.
i looked and looked i couldnt find anything about soil your using, but with the arguments its hard to find good info.
i always start seedlings in fox ocean forest with RO water never a problem, ive got 110 1 weekers doing just dandy. some tap can be good, but incosistant qualities seam to give your plants some ph flux issues (the lower

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although that could be a k def.. im not 100%.

you did a good job turning that haze and satori around. dont worry about the tips, theyll grow out of it. you should get another week or two in before you start to flower, the plants need to develop more, its like an 11yo. girl having a kid.

 

[MynameStitch]

I never recommend using distilled water on seedlings or RO water due to the near 0 micronutrient content, since he did not have a complete micronutrient content that is why I said to use tap.

As long as tap is not overly hard it is fine to use.

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

I never recommend using distilled water on seedlings or RO water due to the near 0 micronutrient content, since he did not have a complete micronutrient content that is why I said to use tap.

As long as tap is not overly hard it is fine to use.

yea normaly your advice is imecable but this time i think the 7 ph is too hgih and the ppm's must have toped 600 because his leafs/plants look burnt to a crisp. id smash myself in the face with a hammer if my satori looked like that.



his gordan soil sounds simaler, but deficiant to ffof...

RO dosn't have the micros. but they dont need them for first week.... but you didnt know his tap was shit, i bet hes a city dweller so cals water is crap. my taps got 650-820ppm ph of 8-9 and report from the water co shows nothing but a train wreck.
but without a ppm meter he dosent know if its 100, 200, or 1200...

 

[MynameStitch]

lol, read the whole thread; I told him about his ppms too

Also about his ph

 

[dontlockmeup]

digi you are absolutely right about the water in socal. It is freaking horrible. I can't believe I grew up drinking and bathing in that sewage. No wonder 3/4 of my cousins and myself have ended up with some type of cancer or tumors. We grew up in a neighborhood surounded by fields and the water came from a huge well. You think the ferts and pesticides from the fields ended up in the drinking water? yup. In the fourth grade the schools stopped allowing us to drink from the fountains and brought in bottled drinking water for every classroom. I guess a water test didn't turn out too good. that was back in the 80's. we moved into the city in the 90's and the water wasn't much better. The water down there has a nasty foul sulfuric smell to it. yuck.

 

[C6H6]

yea i do live in a city. i went out and got several gallons of distilled water for the time being. Is there a DIY for RO water i searched and couldn't find anything and what are some options for getting cleaner water, would a brita pitcher or something similar work? as soon as the lights go off tomorrow morning ill post some updated pictures

 

[MynameStitch]

Hey digital, thats sweet did not know you lived in cali
What do you use cannabis for?

We grew up in a neighborhood surounded by fields and the water came from a huge well. You think the ferts and pesticides from the fields ended up in the drinking water? yup. In the fourth grade the schools stopped allowing us to drink from the fountains and brought in bottled drinking water for every classroom. I guess a water test didn't turn out too good. that was back in the 80's.

You better believe it, cause we live a little ways from a toxic waste dump and the fucker is sitting RIGHT over our aquifer and when I moved in here the dogs had tumors on there noses, both dogs......
I am scared to drink the water here...... so I try to avoid it at all costs........
But ya dude, if they brought in bottled water, the water was contaminated and especially back in the 80's with them making tighter EPA regulations and such......

 

[Rastatrue]

Jah guide & protect

Jah guide & protect

Hey Now, Say Stitch, Happy St. Pats. Nice to see you imput tonight. Ireland has a thousand shades of green!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVlIV9dqVXA

Erin go Braugh. 30days /12/12. looking good. A litle yellowing on the edge bottom leaves, from over watering but my three girls are looking sweet

 

[dontlockmeup]

yea i do live in a city. i went out and got several gallons of distilled water for the time being. Is there a DIY for RO water i searched and couldn't find anything and what are some options for getting cleaner water, would a brita pitcher or something similar work? as soon as the lights go off tomorrow morning ill post some updated pictures

yeah bro ro is reverse osmosis. you can get a culigahn(not sure of spelling) system put in your house. or you could go to one of those water machines and get the drinking water for like 10 cents a gallon. same shite. The brita is a filter not reverse osmosis. I'm not sure how much the brita will filter out of your tap water.

peace

 

[MynameStitch]

Hey there rast! Happy st pattys to you to laddy!

Brita filter will only filter out big particles, won't remove calcium, magnesium so therefore will not reduce water hardness. You would have to to get the items dontlockmeup has suggested in his previous post.

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

c6 whats going on??

stitch- i tried reading the whole things its such a mess...


cali water- get a RO machine, ive got my R&D on the subject going.....

i had a few back injuries, mainly being ko'd and falling a few hundred feet while skiing...
riped my thumb muscle off the bone, boxers fracture, insomnia. i have marinol but nothing beats mary jane...

 

[MynameStitch]

:jawdrop:

damn dude, I am sorry to hear that DH
I thought my problems I had were bad, how the hell did you rip off your muscle from your thumb?!

 

[Huggie bear]

My babies are doing the exact thing yours did and i was using Poland springs distilled water so I will be switching to tap water and cutting back me feedings immediately.
They were put in soil on the 9th and broke the top Wednesday. they just started to show yellowing and a bit of trouble a couple of days ago.
I have a PH soil kit I will be checking tonight and my water PH meter I just purchased should be here in a few days.
Really glad I found this thread.
My strawberry cough seem to be the most affected.

 

[C6H6]

finially i have a porper digital camera at least for a while anyway.

#1 Haze X Skunk

#2 mandala satori

#3 mandala satori

#4 Nirvala white widow

so all the plants have been LSTed, the haze X skunk and white widow seem to be taking it the best, forming many side shoots. #3 mandala satori looks a little unhealthy, the lower leafs seem to be dieing off, slowly while the top doesn't to much. i have since started using my heat mat to try and keep the roots warm at night and see if that has any effect of the flytraping that is occuring on this plant. oddly enough this is the only plant that shows the fly trapping. both the #2 and 3 satori have really taken off in the last week but only the tops no or very little side growth is apparent. all the plants still have the Red stems and as of yesterday they went up to a 1tsp per gallon of plant food mixed with distilled water. they have been on the distilled water for about 3 days not and expecially on the #4 white widow the color seems reaching the shade of green that i see on all the pictuers around.

 

[dontlockmeup]

Those are looking a lot better now. Glad to see them looking so good. looks like they will need a transplant soon.

DH nice shed. I just noticed it. I use those same keter sheds for grow rooms. 3x6 for momma/veg 8x8 for bloom. I line em with black and white poly and they work great. I have my bloom shed set up with the lights vented, co2 generator, and a window a/c stuck in the side. I looked at the hydro hut tents but wanted to be able to put more lights in one area and be able to cool the garden with a/c so I went with the 8x8 shed.

peace.

 

[C6H6]

thanks me too theyve come a long long way from the disastar that i put them through. i am quite supprised, to tell you the truth