Zenith feminized limited edition
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The tropical one with the spots I had my eye from the beginning has been validated 
Pulled some dry buds out the dry box, gonna jar it tonight, and sampled it after work earlier. It has that head pressure that i really like, sooooaring high, maybe not as potent as the GT x Panama i have, but potentially a higher ceiling. I did take a good nap about 45 minutes into it, but a lot of the soaring high sativas can do that to me when I'm leaned back in the recliner after work. I think it hasa decent body high, but cant say for certain yet
So far, this is one I'd like to keep.
And one of the spicy ones was more functionally energetic, very nice high, probably the best day time in the stable, so it will likely hang around for a while also
Not sure about the high in the shortest flowering one yet, plus it was harvested a couple weeks early for sure, but the smell I'm getting is Watermelon Bubble gum dank so it will at least hang around a while for a breeding project or two
Pulled some dry buds out the dry box, gonna jar it tonight, and sampled it after work earlier. It has that head pressure that i really like, sooooaring high, maybe not as potent as the GT x Panama i have, but potentially a higher ceiling. I did take a good nap about 45 minutes into it, but a lot of the soaring high sativas can do that to me when I'm leaned back in the recliner after work. I think it hasa decent body high, but cant say for certain yet
So far, this is one I'd like to keep.
And one of the spicy ones was more functionally energetic, very nice high, probably the best day time in the stable, so it will likely hang around for a while also
Not sure about the high in the shortest flowering one yet, plus it was harvested a couple weeks early for sure, but the smell I'm getting is Watermelon Bubble gum dank so it will at least hang around a while for a breeding project or two
Mountainkush
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Hey DubiYeah @Mountainkush small amounts of Zamaldelica x Panama seeds were already produced a few years ago, and a few fellow interested growers like you managed to get some before it was officially released as Zenith this yearReally happy to see you growing her beside Oaxaca x Panama F1, both are really really good enhanced Panama hybrids.
While the fully citric, fast flowering Zenith plants share a very uniform cerebral, energetic powerful effect, on the other hand Zenith (longer flowering expressions) start with also citric, classic lemony Panama terps that later become much sweeter, and by the end of flowering much more complex, with unique nuances in each plant for terps and effects, which are more balanced and healing.
Very excited to try both. The Oaxaca pan is finishing up faster than the zenith and is just about done at 9 weeks 11/13.
Very lemon and floral smelling. Absolutely delicious.
Meanwhile the zenith is struggling more with my soil but still doing ok. It started out smelling very similar to the Oaxaca pan but now the lemon smells more like a cleaner/disinfectant with a sour note that reminds me of a sour diesel auto I grew years ago.
Cactus Squatter
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So far all of mine are extremely uniform. 1 of them is about 2 inches taller but aside from that they all look identical.
Very fast to get into flowering, they were flipped on the 1st and are already starting to throw pistils.
Very fast to get into flowering, they were flipped on the 1st and are already starting to throw pistils.
Herbert Chickybaby
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Zenith in Tieland, week 5, outdoor grow start to finish, rookie photoperiod grower, 15 gallon all organic (Pete moss, bat shit, backyard clay, le cau dëu dëu, werm sperm, CALifornia MAGnolia, destruction project sand, our general vibes, and more of our general focking crap around here, such as our dogs who are anti-weed, one's a German Shepherd police dog so go figure, but shes lovely anyway.) Supplemented with the same old standards roughly twice weekly organics like raw fish emotions, mo' lashes, badt schitz tea, warm castings...the usual.
So, not to try and corrupt this thread with other topics but to show how other strains grow as a point of comparison I guess I will post some photos of the other dangerous plants in our garden, whose aunt sisters were responsible for the 20th century genocide of hundreds of millions of innocent children who smoked pot and died and so on as we all know and why must continue the fight against weed even if we are hopeless to stop growing smoking and selling it/giving it away and dying of ods over and over again.
Below is displayed two photographic representations of the progeny of a seed I've grown, a SE Asian hybrid from Real Seed Company dubbed Lao Sa and pretty much a mix of strains that have all been growing around where I am not too far away, in Laos. As I remember Angus (Real Seed CEO or head honcho or bystander in chief or whatever) said to me or says on the Real Seed website that Lao Sa is product or whatever you call it down at the emergency room of a friend of his living and gardening in Lao who is a landrace/heirloom weed enthusiast and has cross bred the Burmese strain that Real Seeds also sells with some probable descendants of what the heapies and Vet Nom vets called Tie stick or something like that, and was tied to a stick hence the name, such as a strain from near the Laos capital city (its actually just a town) Vientiane and another which is more of a staple in Bangkok and other places in Thailand dubbed Lao Gold grown further down the Mekong. The garden in all the pictures is about 150 kilometers west of said river.
The next one from the same weed patch is Ace Seed's Honduras. This one was initially the fastest most aggressive developing plant in my cobra pit of sheer cannabinoid malevolence which according to my calculations is responsible for several UAP crashes in the area during this past month. We wanted to see how plants grown in pots made from fragments of flying saucers fared and being the psychopaths that we are felt zero compunction about causing these crashes just to get some exotic planters.
Anyway, who cares, how tedious, right? So we hypnotized our plants to regard such obnoxious tourists as these aliens from the Galactic Federation as competitors for nutrients and water and fresh air using entrainment signals to be found interwoven in the tapestries of WEF Records recording artist Klaus Schwab's electronic music masterpieces of the 1970's such as "You'll Eat Zee Bugs And Bee Happy, Don't Worry," and "Timewinds, What If I Suddenly Decided To Arbitrarily Switch Them Up? What Would You Do, Take Me to International Criminal Court and Sue Me Or Sumpthings?" But Miss Honduras has been surpassed by Lady Lao Sa, the biggest so far at 4 foot and quickly growing here munchkin land. They were germinated together 7 weeks ago, so its all far from over, though the Honduras is showing signs of herming out despite also having the most female flowers after the Panama Red. I'm a newb so I could b me mistaken about a couple of balls I see developing at a few of the nodes. It has perhaps 10 clearly female flowers all over the plant though.
The next one would be my Panama money so to speak, a Panama red pheno, and probably a communist, but who cares I'll take any allies I can get at this point in the war and it is she who has thrown the most developed flowers after only 7 weeks since germination.
Like I said, I am just a rookie, so I was surprised I got a plant that went into full flowering stage so quickly and with big fucking pinko flowers no less. Thanks to Dubi and his wonderfull ufo destroying Panama Reds we may be rid of these pesky bleepitting midnight soil sample taking shutter bugs from Sagitarrius Moaner in the Galyphtic Rift forever and weird people and us other even weirder beings will maintain a new universal disunipolar moment over the whole omniverse, and the totalitarian federation and their borg handlers will finally be outta chips! Hoorah!
I did think she would be a lot taller though, but even the children around here are stunted. I'm serious. And much of what you try to plant and grow, be it corn, children, ginko trees, peppers, anti-marijuana angry midget german shepherds, weasels impersonating dogs etc is mini me sized if it even survives the burning refuse pollution, the roundup spray from off the rice paddies stretching hundreds of miles across the Isaan basin. I'm sure she'd be 6 foot in your garden but here shes only 3.5 feet tall. But I'm fine with it, I don't need another whole bail of totally mind bending pot, a pound or two will do. I will see what happens with what I germinate next month, that will put the plants within the season when there is plenty of sunlight, less extreme temperature swings between 78 degree rainy days and 95 degree sunny days, less extreme humidity. But I am still not sure if they will respond well to growing during a period of waning sunlight, though thats what the farmers here do, standard ganja cultivation time is a bad time to grow anything here, its too wet, so August September is planting time.
The next one, the Ace Zamal-Kali China looks sadder in pictures than she is. Theres still quite a lot of bud on her thats still ok including the top most part which was too high to capture in the photo, yeah just gone. She is as reported, very resinous, quite pleasantly and strongly odorous. She went into flower very quickly maybe only after 6 weeks of veg. This is now week 14 and I'm hovering and gonna chop as soon as the pistillations stop. Its kind of race between that and the slowly advancing crunch crunch crunch of the botryitis monster. Still, she is all I hoped for, this is still just an experimental season for me to see how well or not well pot will grow during rainy season outside in coat and Tieland and I'm pretty sure I'll get at least a half ounce dry weight of some very interesting bud, its so exciting! See below for pictures of Zamal Kali China, I hit the ten pictures per post limit.
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Herbert Chickybaby
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Continuing from my last post on this thread here is the Zamal-Kali China at week 14 from my garden:
She started her first month of life with two weeks of 105 deg.frht./42 deg cel. weather and tons of rain before we got our clear plastic roof in place, so she got minimal light for quite awhile having to live under a picnic table umbrella another two weeks after all of the heat and made it all the way to advanced stages of flowering before the botryitis hit. I think it would be a fantastic grow if not for that last unfortunate bit and still I think we will get something and I still have seeds to plant for budding during the dry season.
This last one is the new Mandala seeds Mountain Gold-Satori hybrid. I got this one because Mandala seeds said it did very well in extreme heat. Thats exactly what she got over here too, two weeks alongside of her germination tray mate the Zamal Kali-China at 105 degrees + everyday for five hours for two weeks. Was not even phased, grew beautifully and mostly fairly quickly, a few weeks behind the Zamal Kali China in flowering and stretching but produced much more bud and grew taller though barely 4 feet tall, or a bit over a meter tall. Not nearly as resinous for quite awhile, very little smell, very small resin glands. I hit her and the Zamal-Kali China with a number of yogurt feedings which a Thai doctor and grower on here recommended. Maybe it helped she is now much more developed resin gland wise and smell-wise though a fairly standard skunk bud smell, nothing amazing. But, the plant really has a lot of charisma, my favorite plant to look at and I hope she can finish before botryitis ruins her as well, not much, but the main cola looks to be ruined, though she is quite branchy, lots of spots so far untouched. I could get as much as 16 ounces, way more than I can smoke.
She started her first month of life with two weeks of 105 deg.frht./42 deg cel. weather and tons of rain before we got our clear plastic roof in place, so she got minimal light for quite awhile having to live under a picnic table umbrella another two weeks after all of the heat and made it all the way to advanced stages of flowering before the botryitis hit. I think it would be a fantastic grow if not for that last unfortunate bit and still I think we will get something and I still have seeds to plant for budding during the dry season.
This last one is the new Mandala seeds Mountain Gold-Satori hybrid. I got this one because Mandala seeds said it did very well in extreme heat. Thats exactly what she got over here too, two weeks alongside of her germination tray mate the Zamal Kali-China at 105 degrees + everyday for five hours for two weeks. Was not even phased, grew beautifully and mostly fairly quickly, a few weeks behind the Zamal Kali China in flowering and stretching but produced much more bud and grew taller though barely 4 feet tall, or a bit over a meter tall. Not nearly as resinous for quite awhile, very little smell, very small resin glands. I hit her and the Zamal-Kali China with a number of yogurt feedings which a Thai doctor and grower on here recommended. Maybe it helped she is now much more developed resin gland wise and smell-wise though a fairly standard skunk bud smell, nothing amazing. But, the plant really has a lot of charisma, my favorite plant to look at and I hope she can finish before botryitis ruins her as well, not much, but the main cola looks to be ruined, though she is quite branchy, lots of spots so far untouched. I could get as much as 16 ounces, way more than I can smoke.
Hoping the soil covering is doing some good in the heat. Hand watered today with some lower pH water. From the hose filter, pH is about 6.8. Dropped it to low 6’s today.
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Tropical storm Hillary blew all four Zenith’s on their sides earlier this week. I tried propping them back up this evening.
Cactus Squatter
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A handful of Zeniths running under my CMH setup.
After they started stretching I had to tie down 2 of them, which I’m assuming are the taller phenotype. The others are all very similar in growth and height and didn’t stretch as much. One of the taller ones grew into the light overnight and had to have her top trimmed a little.
2 of them have shown slight hermaphroditism. 1 has thrown 1 full male ball and 1 little set of nanners, both on the same branch so I cut that branch off and have been keeping an eye on it.
The other threw a male ball, but when it opened it was full of pistils and not nanners so I’m also keeping an eye on it. I have a feeling it’s from the N levels in my recycled soil mix and the initial shock of being transferred into it from a lighter mix soil when they were seedlings.
No real smells to speak of yet, they were flipped to 12/12 on the 1st and then flipped to 11/13 yesterday.
After they started stretching I had to tie down 2 of them, which I’m assuming are the taller phenotype. The others are all very similar in growth and height and didn’t stretch as much. One of the taller ones grew into the light overnight and had to have her top trimmed a little.
2 of them have shown slight hermaphroditism. 1 has thrown 1 full male ball and 1 little set of nanners, both on the same branch so I cut that branch off and have been keeping an eye on it.
The other threw a male ball, but when it opened it was full of pistils and not nanners so I’m also keeping an eye on it. I have a feeling it’s from the N levels in my recycled soil mix and the initial shock of being transferred into it from a lighter mix soil when they were seedlings.
No real smells to speak of yet, they were flipped to 12/12 on the 1st and then flipped to 11/13 yesterday.
Ras Kali Rasta
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Looking great, Cactus. Have you got a whole 6 pack in there? It's reassuring to see you getting a couple of tall phenos. I've been wondering how many seeds I'll need to pop for a good chance of getting a high quality tall pheno. I'm tossing up whether to get a second pack on the off-chance these remain limited edition only.
Cactus Squatter
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Yeah, the whole 6 pack. I initially thought it was only 1 tall pheno but then the other shot up during stretch.
Cactus Squatter
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Looking at them more tonight, I might have an even split of the two phenos.
Is there already some chance to tip what type of phenos are? They have two times used soil but happy im also happy
I must do upgrade for grow room , two cuts from ethos (hybrids) are doing well and normally growing and those sativas need more ppfd and soil to stay growing well for sure. I should have good expressions from every seed, bravo
#1 seems will have nice long colas, quite nice structure not so thin leaves as before
Unfortunately the cuts under are going to flower probably. Maybe Thai citrus dominant? Like that euphoric bit speedy quality. Didnt experienced much giggly weed , just KC brains TNR sweet Thai pheno gave me
#2 taller pheno " quickiest in flower" I have an eye on this maybe for the best high of zamaldelica mango carrot
#3 Panama shorter but quite fast finally with more soil lol the most sensitive on temperatures and gets also slow into flowering. I remember friend had good Santa Maria on balcony, well cured, gave me really intensive I could say psychedelic high that I was surprised, two hours baked on this and you don't need to smoke again for a while. Extraordinary, just mango haze gave me similar high and that was all in 15years of growing which is sad really... so I hope this is the one
I must do upgrade for grow room , two cuts from ethos (hybrids) are doing well and normally growing and those sativas need more ppfd and soil to stay growing well for sure. I should have good expressions from every seed, bravo
#1 seems will have nice long colas, quite nice structure not so thin leaves as before
Unfortunately the cuts under are going to flower probably. Maybe Thai citrus dominant? Like that euphoric bit speedy quality. Didnt experienced much giggly weed , just KC brains TNR sweet Thai pheno gave me
#2 taller pheno " quickiest in flower" I have an eye on this maybe for the best high of zamaldelica mango carrot
#3 Panama shorter but quite fast finally with more soil lol the most sensitive on temperatures and gets also slow into flowering. I remember friend had good Santa Maria on balcony, well cured, gave me really intensive I could say psychedelic high that I was surprised, two hours baked on this and you don't need to smoke again for a while. Extraordinary, just mango haze gave me similar high and that was all in 15years of growing which is sad really... so I hope this is the one
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Just getting back from backpacking Western Sierras. Seems all the plants are recovering from the storm early last week. A few missing branches, but all in all pretty good. It is still plenty hot here.
