Zamaldelica
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ZanzibarDawa
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Thought I do a "quick" smoke report on my Zamaldelicas.
All have been cobbed with Tangwena's method (Malawi style cob cureing).
The cobbing seems to work wonders, the smoke is smoother and the potency seems to increase quite a bit.
All three are very strong and it would be very easy to get severely pistil whipped when rolling a fatty as they are all creepers - to varying extent.
I stayed with my little pinnies...
Zamaldelica #1
I think this is a good representation of the Zamaldelica cross. Strong mango aromas and the structure is a good mix of the parents I guess. If I remember correctly, she was chopped at 14 weeks.
The high is a creeper, first effects maybe after 4-5minutes, building for 3/4 hours. The high comes in waves.
I really like the high of this one, hope to keep her for a long time. A trippy lady but not as clear as ZD3. She gives me a comic book feel. Everything seems to be different and seems to look like out of a comic book, but it doesn't. It is really hard to describe, it kind of feels a bit like having visuals, but without actually having any, at least not really...hmmm doesn't make too much sense but it's the best description I can come up with. The high has a nice elevating/euphoric aspect, it puts a bright smile on your face.
Zamaldelica #2
Shortest, sturdy structure, Malawi leaning pheno, by far the fastest of the three. She was chopped a bit early due to a few nanners.
This was tested least, so I might edit this with further testing. The high is somewhat of a creeper and builds pretty steadily for about 30-40 minutes at least.
It is by far the heaviest of the three, strong malawi influence.
It has no physical couch lock, maybe the slightest body stone, but a very profound mental couch lock. I imagine some similarity to the effects of opium (never tried, never will).
It puts you in a very different place, hard to describe and it it pretty much mentally debilitating. So if you are doing course calculations for a swing by manouver around Mars in your space ship, don't smoke this!
The high isn't too euphoric, more being conent in any and every aspect. I wouldn't describe it as a muddy high, but it isn't clear either...I'll need to nail that down a bit more before writing too much...
Zamaldelica #3
This is the Thai/Zamal pheno, although I believe the high to be pretty much Thai leaning.
Here is a copy of my preliminary smoke report:
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The smell is some hints o fruit some earthly tones and a LOT of black pepper, almost makes you sneeze. The high is very clear and focused, happy but not so much giggly more a state of bliss, energy rushing through the body. You don't feel as high as you actually are as it is so clear, cognitive tasks are relatively easy given the altitude
After all I read I could imagine it would remind some old timers of good Thai weed. There is no fatigue or hangover, just a very pleasant, happy and refreshed/energetic afterglow. Definitely daytime/party smoke.
I could well imagine that it gets extremely psychedelic and trippy in higher doses, will try.
She will be killer with a bit of a cure.
[/FONT]The smell has by now changed to almost all pepper with some earthy and ripe mango undertones.
Dubi, is this a common pheno and where does the pepper smell/taste come from?
My preliminary report still stands, but I want to add a few things.
As the other ones, this too is a creeper, first effects maybe 4 minutes in and then keeps building. In higher doses the waves hit quite hard here, not as gentle a rise as #1, more a rollercoaster going into free fall.
Just as #1 is putting a smile on your face, this puts a big fat smile on your soul. It is very blissful and clear.
Makes you feel you are radiating light and pure energy from the inside out. At the same time it is extremely profound. This is more than just happy weed, it has a somewhat mystical aspect, almost transcendental. Time is slowed way down. Perception is greatly aqltered. It is not as visual as #1. It is more seeing the world with new eyes than seeing a new world. But then my living room looked green...it actually is blue.
What I really like about this is that it lets you sit there in awe and pure astonishment. Due to the strongly altered perception listening to music is amazing too. That said, I could see that for some paranoia could be a problem with this as it can be quite overwhelming and is so profound, once you have lift off you are in for the ride - for better or for worse, but there is no way to withdraw yourself from the experience. This is way past ++ on the Shulgin scale.
The afterglow is just as blissful as the high and lasts the longest.
I think this pheno has some very special and rare aspects, but it would be a waste to smoke this too often, this is a special treat!
I'm very happy I got such different phenos. #1 is the perfect smoke if you just want a trippy and happy time. #3 is a deeply moving experience, something you want to process for a time. So this makes #2 my step child (for now, will do more sampling), it is similar to the malawis, but they are better at what they are than #2, which for itself is still very good by the way but better is the enemy of good. #1 and #3 share some characteristics but on the other hand they are worlds apart and I am very happy to have both.
If I had to pick a favourite it would - hands down - be #3. Although she is not for the faint of heart and couldn't be further from the perfect every day weed, I think she is something very rare and beautiful. So if any of you come across a pepper pheno, guard it with your life!
All three are very long lasting and they carry a nice afterglow (also very long lasting) once they wore off, although Zamaldelica #2 has the least and least pleasurable afterglow.
ZD
All have been cobbed with Tangwena's method (Malawi style cob cureing).
The cobbing seems to work wonders, the smoke is smoother and the potency seems to increase quite a bit.
All three are very strong and it would be very easy to get severely pistil whipped when rolling a fatty as they are all creepers - to varying extent.
I stayed with my little pinnies...
Zamaldelica #1
I think this is a good representation of the Zamaldelica cross. Strong mango aromas and the structure is a good mix of the parents I guess. If I remember correctly, she was chopped at 14 weeks.
The high is a creeper, first effects maybe after 4-5minutes, building for 3/4 hours. The high comes in waves.
I really like the high of this one, hope to keep her for a long time. A trippy lady but not as clear as ZD3. She gives me a comic book feel. Everything seems to be different and seems to look like out of a comic book, but it doesn't. It is really hard to describe, it kind of feels a bit like having visuals, but without actually having any, at least not really...hmmm doesn't make too much sense but it's the best description I can come up with. The high has a nice elevating/euphoric aspect, it puts a bright smile on your face.
Zamaldelica #2
Shortest, sturdy structure, Malawi leaning pheno, by far the fastest of the three. She was chopped a bit early due to a few nanners.
This was tested least, so I might edit this with further testing. The high is somewhat of a creeper and builds pretty steadily for about 30-40 minutes at least.
It is by far the heaviest of the three, strong malawi influence.
It has no physical couch lock, maybe the slightest body stone, but a very profound mental couch lock. I imagine some similarity to the effects of opium (never tried, never will).
It puts you in a very different place, hard to describe and it it pretty much mentally debilitating. So if you are doing course calculations for a swing by manouver around Mars in your space ship, don't smoke this!
The high isn't too euphoric, more being conent in any and every aspect. I wouldn't describe it as a muddy high, but it isn't clear either...I'll need to nail that down a bit more before writing too much...
Zamaldelica #3
This is the Thai/Zamal pheno, although I believe the high to be pretty much Thai leaning.
Here is a copy of my preliminary smoke report:
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The smell is some hints o fruit some earthly tones and a LOT of black pepper, almost makes you sneeze. The high is very clear and focused, happy but not so much giggly more a state of bliss, energy rushing through the body. You don't feel as high as you actually are as it is so clear, cognitive tasks are relatively easy given the altitude
I could well imagine that it gets extremely psychedelic and trippy in higher doses, will try.
She will be killer with a bit of a cure.
[/FONT]The smell has by now changed to almost all pepper with some earthy and ripe mango undertones.
Dubi, is this a common pheno and where does the pepper smell/taste come from?
My preliminary report still stands, but I want to add a few things.
As the other ones, this too is a creeper, first effects maybe 4 minutes in and then keeps building. In higher doses the waves hit quite hard here, not as gentle a rise as #1, more a rollercoaster going into free fall.
Just as #1 is putting a smile on your face, this puts a big fat smile on your soul. It is very blissful and clear.
Makes you feel you are radiating light and pure energy from the inside out. At the same time it is extremely profound. This is more than just happy weed, it has a somewhat mystical aspect, almost transcendental. Time is slowed way down. Perception is greatly aqltered. It is not as visual as #1. It is more seeing the world with new eyes than seeing a new world. But then my living room looked green...it actually is blue.
What I really like about this is that it lets you sit there in awe and pure astonishment. Due to the strongly altered perception listening to music is amazing too. That said, I could see that for some paranoia could be a problem with this as it can be quite overwhelming and is so profound, once you have lift off you are in for the ride - for better or for worse, but there is no way to withdraw yourself from the experience. This is way past ++ on the Shulgin scale.
The afterglow is just as blissful as the high and lasts the longest.
I think this pheno has some very special and rare aspects, but it would be a waste to smoke this too often, this is a special treat!
I'm very happy I got such different phenos. #1 is the perfect smoke if you just want a trippy and happy time. #3 is a deeply moving experience, something you want to process for a time. So this makes #2 my step child (for now, will do more sampling), it is similar to the malawis, but they are better at what they are than #2, which for itself is still very good by the way but better is the enemy of good. #1 and #3 share some characteristics but on the other hand they are worlds apart and I am very happy to have both.
If I had to pick a favourite it would - hands down - be #3. Although she is not for the faint of heart and couldn't be further from the perfect every day weed, I think she is something very rare and beautiful. So if any of you come across a pepper pheno, guard it with your life!
All three are very long lasting and they carry a nice afterglow (also very long lasting) once they wore off, although Zamaldelica #2 has the least and least pleasurable afterglow.
ZD
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ZanzibarDawa
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Dubi, can you shed any light on my pepper pheno? I'd love to hear where it comes from and if you recognise it from my smoke report.
ZD
ZD
Hi Buddy she is nowhere near finished another 4 weeks maybe even more, its worth the wait. If you pick her to early she will not have anything special and you will miss out on the fire works. Patience will be rewarded big time and you will be blown away early picked is nothing special she only gets power right at the end.
Tangwena
Thank you so much for the advise! I have no hurry so I'll give her as much time as it needs. I was thinking about stopping feeding her as I thought it was near finish, but being that the case I guess I can feed her another two weeks.
I'll be posting new pics in a few weeks to see how it goes.
Cheers!
Good move, go back on this thread, Terpenes grow of zamaldelica was what opened my eyes and i followed his lead and have not looked back since. sativas are special and need to be harvested late or they have nothing to offer. i used to grow hybrids and harvest too early now I grow them differently from the indica type hybrids I used to grow and have a whole new world. You will not regret it.
tangwena
tangwena
Yall are so nice, thanks Tang!
Dubi's plants make killer crosses. 13 weeks to the day of 11/13 and my mango carrot Zamaldelica x (Tom Hill Haze x [Purple Thai Skunk x White Widow]) cross is finished. 70w of home store screw in LEDs made for one exceptionally pretty plant.
Dubi's plants make killer crosses. 13 weeks to the day of 11/13 and my mango carrot Zamaldelica x (Tom Hill Haze x [Purple Thai Skunk x White Widow]) cross is finished. 70w of home store screw in LEDs made for one exceptionally pretty plant.
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Hi Truchoxki,
The Zamaldelica male 5 looks indeed more Malawi influenced, usually Zamaldelica males with more Malawi influence have bigger flowers, forming more compact floral clusters. On the other hand, male 14 has more spindly and separate flowers, citric aromas and thin leaf are traits usually more related with the thai genetics. Male 15 looks similar to 14, lanky flower formation with fatter leaves but still on the thai side of the hybrid.
Hope the males produce interesting offspring with your diesel mothers.
A cross between the clear, uplifting Zamaldelicas with mango/mandarine aromas and the mandarine diesel pheno should produce a very tasty sativa dominant hybrid.
Please, keep us updated with your results. Best wishes!
Hi merkin donor,
Sorry for the delay in the reply. You are correct about the deficiencies, sometimes is difficult to correct deficiencies in late flowering, plants respond slower at this stage of life and if you force them too much with fertilizers then they will store nutrients that they won't probably use and you will end up smoking it, producing a less healthy, harsher smoke. If you are facing the end of flowering is better to clean with good quality water and balanced ph, the yellowing will continue but they won't tend to reflower and the flowers will produce a smooth and healthier smoke.
Please, let us know your opinion about Zamaldelica after harvest time and after a bit of curing.
Excellent retonol
You did an amazing job taming this tropical sativa genetics in such small space, wonderful! Flowers look like they are going to explode!
Just one tip, try to lower down a bit the Nitrogen next time if you see leaves getting too dark and curling in flowering. How were the temps with the lamp so close ?
Wish you have had a fruitful and happy harvest time!
high @ all,
here my two Zamaldelica clones @ day 65 in flower...
Zamaldelica (Malawi pheno)
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Zamaldelica (Mango pheno)
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i like booth... but most the mango/carrot pheno... the high is just amazing
M.
Hi MadMac,
It's great to see you back, thanks for posting friend, i'm glad to see you are still growing clones from your favourite mothers selected past year.
The Malawi pheno looks like is going to be a longer, heavier yielder, but i also prefer the qualities (terpenes and effects) of the Zamal 'mango carrot' pheno. Looks delicious
Wish you also find interesting things in the new batch of genetics!
Buenas yaxu
Gracias por las actualizaciones! Es un placer ver como se va desarrollando su Zamaldelica en exterior! Es un interesante feno de Zamal/Malawi que muestra muy buen equilibrio de ambas genéticas, la forma de los ovarios y de los pistilos tiene mas influencia proveniente de la Zamal, mientras que la estructura de la planta, desarrollo de las flores y el tipo de resinas son mas de la Malawi. ¿ Como son los aromas en estas últimas semanas de floración ?
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Hi yaxu,
Thanks for the updates! It's a pleasure to see the development of your Zamaldelica outdoors. Looks like an interesting Zamal/Malawi pheno with great balance of traits from both strains. The shape of the ovaries and pistils come from the Zamal, while the plant's structure, developing of the flowers and type of resins are more on the Malawi side.
¿ How are the aromas in the last weeks of flowering ?
Excellent job bwoyrude
as always!You always make it look so easy to grow sativas indoors.
Love the looks of your Zamaldelica #3, very high flower/ leaf ratio, fast flowering, good yield and with the extra resin production coming from the killer Malawi genetics.
