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scai

I still need to give respect to Zamaldelica.Once again.

I took out to greenhouse my Zam...that I planted in 30 l bucket to make it to be a big tree later in summer. (about 40 cm tall)

Here we still have occasional frost at night.The temperature went down to -4 C at that night...
I went to see how disasterous it was...and Zam had no problems...
It's amazing.
It's supposed to be equatorial sativa, how can it survive these low temperatures and how it is that it has no mould or any other problems?

I don't know how to give more respect and praise?
 

dubi

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I still need to give respect to Zamaldelica.Once again.

I took out to greenhouse my Zam...that I planted in 30 l bucket to make it to be a big tree later in summer. (about 40 cm tall)

Here we still have occasional frost at night.The temperature went down to -4 C at that night...
I went to see how disasterous it was...and Zam had no problems...
It's amazing.
It's supposed to be equatorial sativa, how can it survive these low temperatures and how it is that it has no mould or any other problems?

I don't know how to give more respect and praise?

I'm glad she survived scai! I havent grown Zamaldelica with such low temps, i'm also surprised this equatorial sativa survived the night frost without died or necrosis.

Best wishes for the upcoming months!
 
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scai

I'm amazed too.But that shows how good the genetics are.
I think she'll survive anything.
Now I can see that she lost few leafs but no harm otherwise.
I'll expect a big tree in atumn and then I'll take her inside for flowering.

She is very resistant to bugs, rot, mould...what more can you wish if you are a sativagrower?
 
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rüdiger

I have to build a special box to flower one in my fridge:biggrin:;)
you give me hope for outdoor
 
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Bob Green

Are the Zamaldelica Regulars that where just restocked at your site the F1 generation Zamal x Golden Tiger or a new inbreed version?

If they are diferent how would you expect them to grow compared to the F1 generation?
 

orfeas

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She is very resistant to bugs, rot, mould...what more can you wish if you are a sativagrower?

Hey, Finn! Bear in mind that rot or mould are problems that occur later in the season. I wish you said that in October or November when she's teemed with "fruit"...:biggrin:
:tiphat:

Orfeas
 

yoss33

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Hi, Orfeas :wave:

I don't think resistance against rot and cold weather can get any better than Zamaldelica's. It's not just resistant - it seems immune to bad weather.
At least it was in my case last season, when I forgot a small unharvested branch on the trunk and remembered about it in the middle of January after a snow wave has melted. I was surprised to find the branch still kind of alive and without a single flower damaged by mold. The leaves were dying and rotting but the buds were perfect.
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A friend of mine, that grew a few Zamaldelicas on his balcony last year, told me that a small plant has sprouted in one of the pots in November (Zamaldelica mom, unknown father) and survived the winter on the balcony, sometimes covered with snow and ice, and is now a big female plant.
Multi-year plants outdoors in moderate continental climate? Who would have expected that from a tropical hybrid?
By the way, pure Haze is also surprisingly resistant against cold weather. Frosts in mornings only make her lose its old leaves, but the buds stay green and growing.
 
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Bob Green

Wow yoss33 that is one crazy cure job nature did on those buds! I wonder what effect that had on the smoke?

Did you guys try any of it?

Pretty badass that it toughed it out through snow and all!

!!!
 
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Bob Green

I am wondering how well Zamaldellica will do in a hot dry place. At around 31°N and at around 5000 feet above sea level?

Maybe better in a greenhouse but we dont get our first freeze till about late Nov-late Dec. Some years there is no snow at all.
 

orfeas

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Hi, Orfeas :wave:

I don't think resistance against rot and cold weather can get any better than Zamaldelica's. It's not just resistant - it seems immune to bad weather.
At least it was in my case last season, when I forgot a small unharvested branch on the trunk and remembered about it in the middle of January after a snow wave has melted. I was surprised to find the branch still kind of alive and without a single flower damaged by mold. The leaves were dying and rotting but the buds were perfect.
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A friend of mine, that grew a few Zamaldelicas on his balcony last year, told me that a small plant has sprouted in one of the pots in November (Zamaldelica mom, unknown father) and survived the winter on the balcony, sometimes covered with snow and ice, and is now a big female plant.
Multi-year plants outdoors in moderate continental climate? Who would have expected that from a tropical hybrid?
By the way, pure Haze is also surprisingly resistant against cold weather. Frosts in mornings only make her lose its old leaves, but the buds stay green and growing.

Hola yoss33!:tiphat:
I do remember the case for I followed your last year's thread almost "piously":biggrin:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you say that one of your Jamdels moulded on you? At least a little?

As for your friend, I have also sowed in November and got me a foot tall plant by the end of March. Snow we might not have every winter, but temps get well bellow at night...

Orfeas
 

DoctorEvergreen

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Hey fam, hopefully Dubi or Charlie can help with this one. I got a regular Zamaldelica from a major seed bank (not in breeder packs) and my Zam is acting very strange. It's on week 8 and looks like its finishing far short of what I expected. I ordered the seed before the hashplant cross was even released. I'm running 1200 HPS and 600 mh and I have been slightly liberal with the dark hours, throwing in 13 instead of 12 because I'm running a wide variety. As such Blueberry, blue velvet and Cotton Candy were harvested today according to trichs. I have two NepJam phenos and the Ne
 

yoss33

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Hola yoss33!:tiphat:
I do remember the case for I followed your last year's thread almost "piously":biggrin:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you say that one of your Jamdels moulded on you? At least a little?

As for your friend, I have also sowed in November and got me a foot tall plant by the end of March. Snow we might not have every winter, but temps get well bellow at night...

Orfeas

Hiya! My big Zamaldelica plant died because its stem broke very badly right under the ground during a storm. This, of course, opened it to any soil-born diseases. So, it felt victim to what looked like pythium, but I doubt it would have this problem if the stem wound was not in constant contact with wet soil.

Wow yoss33 that is one crazy cure job nature did on those buds! I wonder what effect that had on the smoke?

Did you guys try any of it?

Pretty badass that it toughed it out through snow and all!

!!!
Smoke was smooth, potency was maybe about half of the early harvest's. The effect was much more relaxed though still retaining some clear and focused trippiness. It brought some very short headaches though.
I still have some of this branch in a jar, might try it soon to see if normal cure has changed the effect.
 

orfeas

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Oye, Dubi!
Is there something you might want to share about this Jamdel reg flowering since solstice?

:tiphat:Orfeas
 

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orfeas

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One for the record and one for the fun of it!

The left branch stretches out at 1,80 m and the right one at 2,40 m

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RandyCalifornia

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Orfeas, I'm not trying to speak for Dubi, but from my experience,my guess would be the autoflower trait of the Zamal is influencing your plant. Is it in full flower? It sounds like it might be a severely leaning Zamal pheno. I know in the Zamal crosses I have that it really stands out and really hits the notes I love on the high even though there is only 1/4 Zamal in them.
I would consider this plant flowering since the solstice as one to keep a close eye on and take very special care of. Just my humble opinion.
 

orfeas

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Hola Randy!

I should have been explicit in saying that the stem picture above belongs to the big Jamaldelica whose height is ~2,60 m despite the applied topping at 1,80 m.
The one you're referring to is somewhat lanky, has been sluggishly flowering since solstice and has got red leaf stalks all over. As for the height she is at 2,40 m at the moment...

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dubi

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Are the Zamaldelica Regulars that where just restocked at your site the F1 generation Zamal x Golden Tiger or a new inbreed version?

If they are diferent how would you expect them to grow compared to the F1 generation?

Hi Bob Green,

Zamaldelica available at our website is no longer the original outcross: Zamal x Malawi/Thai. The newer version was inbred towards the elite Zamaldelica mum.
 
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