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WOS AK Landraces Cheap Chinese LED closet experiment

BrownThumb

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Here's the results for #2 including a shot of the ruined top w/ Bot (due to lack of proper circulation, this plant was chunkier and needed more air flow to not mold up).

More sticky than yesterdays batch from plant 1 and a more mature smell, possibly due to it being chronologically a couple of weeks older than the others. I have not tried this yet either, but it's already pretty dry, so maybe I will try a nugule later on. I fully expect this plant to be very pleasing and here are a few shots to get a sense of the quality. As a side note, this plant had a well developed bud maybe 3' below the top (picture 1), which validates what I was saying the other day about the cheaper LED's being sufficient if you can keep them cool enough. The rest of the pics show the total yield from this one, the diamond coating and last but not least, some shots of the top ruined by Bot.

I will try top remember to put up some feedback on the smoke and may or may not show the harvest of the last Afghan from this round since it is the runt (damn good looking buds...nice smell too) and will equate to maybe a half-O, or so.

Final thought, you can see where the buds were on the stem (green spots on stem in pic 3) indicating how cold it gets in my closet.
 

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Here's what the Seedsman's "Purple Buds" look like at 2 weeks old.

These are not getting first class treatment, but probably better than they would get from some. I am juggling them back and forth from the flower room in the day to a veg box at night and the light is not even in quality or quantity.

I am digging the classic broad leaves typical of skunk strains I am seeing on the more robust of the 2. These look like they are going to be chunky, but we will shall see.
 

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WOS Afghan Kush round 2... Clone 1 starts to flower tonight or maybe tomorrow at the latest at about 17 or 18". That's pic 1. Pic 2 is the same stock but a bit younger, both in soil, maybe the only soil this round. That one will be let go until it is about the same height as this one, so maybe a week or so more. There's another one that is the best looking of the new batch, but that one's in the flower room and it is night right now. I am keeping it vegging by interrupting the cycle short-term and it is being run in a hempy. Pics another day for the one.

Edit: added shot of Clone 3 in Hempy, the real bushy one that came from the chunky budder in the first batch. I also added a shot of the bigger of the Purple Bud started on 12/15/12 and also being run in a Hempy container.
 

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We have the bigger plant (post above) in the flower room for a few days already. Here's a couple shots of the one of the next two that will stay in the flower room soon, plus a shot of the larger of the Purple Bud plants of which I started only two due to space limitations. The purple Bud is 22 days from seed and are only getting 13 hours of light plus a daily interruption, otherwise they would be bigger.

Hempy seems to be looking better than the soil plants, but even the soil plants are doing well thus run because I used reconditioned soil.

Oh yeah, the Afghan pictured here is a monster clone and illustrates the downside to monster cloning. You do not know 100% what shape the plant will take as opposed to traditional cloning which can be a problem if you're space limited and you get a bushy one where you need a columnar shape. The other two in this batch are also monsters, but they are following their parent closely in phenotype.
 

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I decided to kill off the Sativa, but have a clone. The leaves were very sticky, however the buds were pretty much nonexistent after 90 days. I have other things I would like to work on, one of them being the cross I made between the Bhutanese Sativa and the Afghans chronicled here, so I had to make the cut. I do think that stock is worth growing based on the stickiness of the leaves alone and also believe my effort was lacking, so i will do the next attempt in Hempy to minimize my incompetence and see if the Bhutanese doesn't kixk ass if you treat it right. So 2 of those Bhughani seeds have cracked and been dropped into mini Hempies to root and of course I still have the one Afghan from the original batch about to finish, on top of the 2 Purple Bud plants that are about 22 or 23 days old from seed. Pics are Runt Afghani from round 1 (which may finish this week), clone of one of the other Afghans from round 1 and a couple of shots of the bigger of the Purple Bud plants. The Purple Bud leaves have the look of a Maple to me and we're at 9 blades at about 6 or 7 inter-nodes.

Edit: The Purple buds are smaller than they could be due to being on a 13 hour light cycle with photoperiod interruptions. Space limitations working against me and one of the main reasons I decided to throw in the towel on the Sativa.
 

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Status... The Sativa was bad so I stuffed it in the corner and that is why you cannot see it. They're starting to look like plants now, so maybe a few more days until I drop the cycle. I am thinking I will go 14/10 since these are Indica, but if the Sativa does not flower at 14, then I will have a problem.:moon:

Looking nice & healthy dude! :biggrin:
 

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I thought this was a good shot of one of the monster clones emerging from the bud. As you can see, it took about 1.5 months for this one to get to this point. Some are slower, some are faster, but one thing is for sure, when they take off, they really take off, although it's probably not growing faster than a regular clone.

One thing I have noticed is that not all of them go backwards from 7-5-3-1 to 1-3-5-7-9 blades per leaf. Some seem to go straight to the regular pattern of 3-5-7, etc. Not sure why that happens yet, but suspect it is dictated by when in the flowering process you take the clone.
 

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The first two and 4th shots are the monster clone in hempy trying to bud on me before I want. Then there are a couple of shots of the other flavor of monster clone, around the same age as the hempy, maybe a little younger, but obviously being outperformed even though it is a healthy soil based plant. It is a smaller version of what I already started to flower at about 18" that is sleeping ATM.
 

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So heres where we're at, yo. 3 x monster clones WOS Afghan Kush, because I did a shitty job on the HK in the first go. I want to give them a real good run so I can honestly say one way or the other what i think about the strain.

The two little guys are Seedsman's Purple Bud and those are in about the 4 - 6" range, though they may look bigger. All of these have gotten sort of half-assed light, so they're smaller than they could be, but these girls want to rock, especially the Hempy based units. The Hempy unit of these three (Bushy one) is trying to bud RIGHT NOW, but I want it to get to be at least 17", so I am interrupting the light cycle on that one and the younger of the clones from another of the original babies (the more columnar phenotype, the ones on the far right of the closet)

I will also be featuring some Bhughani soon. I have a couple of babies in mini Hempy and a couple more that may or may not pop in rock wool cubes.

I will be creating seeds for an F2 of both the Purple and Bhughani this year at a minimum, or at least, that's the thinking at this point.
 

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I forgot to mention I put up the shots right before this post as I harvested the last of the first round of the WOS AK today. The light cycle was changed on October 8 (93 days today), so obviously the issues I had on the first run impacted flowering time and yield adversely as the suggested flowering duration is 55 days. I fully expect to at least double the yield and improve on overall quality now that I have a better idea of what to expect from the strain.
 

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Start of flowering, only showing really on 2 afghans so far. Afghan pic 1, Purple Bud is 2.
 

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Purple Bud Babies

Purple Bud Babies

These are shots of the Purple Buds I started on December 15th from seed. These have not been getting a good light regimen, but are doing pretty well considering. Both started in soil and transferred to Hempy. The one on the left looks male and right appears to be female, which is just what I wanted to create some F2's. I cannot say for sure yet how good this strain will be, but so far, I am very pleased with the F1 growth and the scent hints rather strongly that the Seedsman came up with something special in this cross. In fact, I like their scent better than the Afghan I am running ATM, but they stink a lot more (not as stealth) and the proof is in the pudding in regards to taste and potency. I am going to flower these ASAP for a seed run, some test smoke and a clone or 2 once sex is confirmed. I plan on doing a serious grow of these later this year when space allows.
 

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Purple Buds @ 37 or 8 days from seed. The first and only shot of the first plant I believe is a male, but TBD for sure, the other is the suspected female and makes up the rest of the pictures. I expect to know sex within the week. This is a naturally bushy strain and it would be interesting to blow one of these up outdoors in a big hempy container.
 

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Here are some shots of the Afghan Kush girls doing their thing...only 2 of the 3 are fully flowering, but the 3rd should kick in any time now. Sorry if the shotz suck.
 

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Looks like I am boned on the Purple_Buds...seems they're 2 males. Bummer. Gonna let them go and grab some pollen and maybe a cut of each, then it's off to the guillotine. I hope I am wrong of course, but that's how it's looking. Maybe I will start documenting the F1's of that Afghan Bhutanese cross instead, though I want to do a seed run on those more than a smoke run at this point.
 

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Here are the two Seedsman Purple Bud Males not long before I kill them, just waiting on them to open a few flowers for pollen and I will maybe take a cut of each for the future.

There are two slightly different phenotype's I believe, but I have not been giving them equal light, so can't be completely sure about the growth patterns. Besides structure, the bigger more stretched of the two is sweeter smelling, very, very pleasantly sweet, the other has more of a sour twang to it, that being the more dense of the two and more Indica like in growth pattern. It would also make sense that the more Sativaesque be sweeter smelling in my mind.

These are super robust plants and I am a bit bummed I didn't get a girl out of these 2, because I really wanted to taste some of the bud, but what are you going to do?

Edit: The one review I saw on this plant before I bought the seed said these didn't branch much at all. These were males and grown in Hempy, but they got bushy as hell, so if the girls are anything like the boys, I am thinking they would be bushy too, if you grow them well.
 

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On to the Afghans... 1st two pics are the Hempy version of my #1 plant from the first round. Dense nugs are forming rapidly as expected. It will easily be the first to finish and has really opened my eyes to the virtues of Hydro feeding. The #3 plant of the Afghans from round one so far seems to have the best flavor, but I let it go really long..yes i have one cut of that one in the re-veg process.

The plants that are just to the right of the Hempy (pics 3 and 4) are both in soil and are of the #2 plant from batch one. This one disappointed on the first round, but I blame myself for that. This round also in soil for both of the cuts off of that plant and you can see they are far behind the Hempy version of their brethren, though they are in fact slightly older.

All of the 3 female specimens I got on the first go with WOS Afghan Kush Landraces are potent. One hit in fact, but 3 different flavors and variations in potency, though the two seemingly strongest of the three both have thicker and harder hitting smoke. They were also allowed to mature more to considerably more and that has affected the high and the bouquet (which I will refrain from labeling until at least the first one has finished curing).
 

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Some pictures of the F1 Bhutanese x Aghan cross next to its parents. Afghan on left Cross in middle and Mother on right. Both of these parents are monster clones and that's why they look funky. So far, the scent of the cross seems to be of tangy lime, but that may change over time. I am seeing the bushiness of Afghan but the leaf color seems to be a little more pale than the Afghan, leaning towards the Afghan in shape. On the side shot you may notice the purple band between the cotyledons and the first true leaves on the main stem. It's faded some since I moved from soil to Perlite, but still remains. I thought that would be a cool deal to have a strain that exhibits purple banding at the base of the stock..different anyway.

I plan on doing mainly a seed run for F2's with these, assuming a male and female, if not, cuts for the next attempt for F2's.

The next shot is the other cross running right now.

Edit: the plant in the back right in the first pic is maybe a Pakistan ryder auto...if not, perhaps a Himalayan blue auto, but methinks the Ryder due to the stink of that baby. I will make some seeds if it is what i think it is...maybe cross with the Purple Buds I have going since those are the only males available ATM. I'd end up with about a 25% ratio of auto's that way I think...
 

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Here is what's up in the flower space... The hempy Afghan is kicking ass on the others, maybe 1/3 done already and as you can see the bigger and older soil based units are way behind..... The Hempy is showing crystals already and there is really none to speak of on the soil powered units thus far. This is mostly all the Hempy Afghan, but the second pic shows the taller to much taller soil based units off to the right. I am growing clones of that mother because I suspect it will produce more and better tasting smoke if you treat it right, but if it does not impress this go, I will let those genes drop and go with the other two which I know produce powerful smoke, although the first samples were not as tasty as I would like. I am also still curing some of the last round and methinks the last little bit will be top-shelf quality, but that remains to be tasted. WOS Afghan Kush land races is way stoney, but there are also supposed to be some pheno's that taste fantastic as well, and that is what I am after, taste and potency. The high is such that I will hit it, ruminate momentarily and then looking up to realize I have been ruminating for a half hour or so....time warp! No paranoia as we would expect from an Afghanica/Indica strain and so far the high seems to have some legs to it. I am smoking 3 different pheno.'s and so far no real tolerance has built up and I smoke daily, so I suspect this is a good strain for breeding purposes if it has characteristics you desire, like a time warp high, etc.
 

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