It all depends on what other freedoms are being taken away or if penalties for existing offenses are going to be ramped up.
When the government opens a door it shuts five others. Nobody gets something for free... unless you're a congressman.
Oh and here is yet ANOTHER CALIFORNIA LAWYER SINGING THE SAME TUNE I HAVE FOR THE LAST YEAR NOW.
Ask her yourself then... ask Dale G too... He doesn't seem to throw around the insults like some of you.
Let's say you had two pounds of marijuana from what you managed to save from YEARS of growing under Prop. 19's restrictive limits, since the pro-19 folks are telling people you can legally hang onto anything you can grow and save from year to year -- despite Prop. 19's ounce limits. (Theoretically, I think this claim is true, based on the Prop's language. Practically speaking, I doubt most MM patients would be able to save anything from year to year, since growing one "garden of 25 square feet/1 plant is not enough for most people's problems, and certainly not enough when two or more patients in one household have to share a plot as required.)
> A warrant to search inside would turn up your hoarded two pounds -- and bingo! it's now up to you to defend yourself from a charge of growing for sale!
Prop. 19 only "excepts," for medical purposes as previoulsy allowed in 11362.5, "possession and consumption" -- not cultiavtion and dsitribution. So if Prop. 19 passes, patients have no right to cultivate more than everyone else, and no right to distribute via collectives.
damn, all the bashing and you guys dont even consider that this thread may be the truth. i bet most of you didn't even get past paragraph 2 before your anger took over and decided to belittle 215forlife.
he showed actual proof from attorneys in his thread, who know the cannabis law. im sure there word is a little bit more regarded then some smokers who think they know how its going to go down on this forum.
open your eyes, you were just shown proof how prop19 will effect medical patients. instead of causing shit, maybe read a little, you may learn a thing or two?....
you guys need decriminalisation so that you have the right to freely grow the plant,,
if you willingly vote for legalisation then you are like all the other idiots that were tempted by the apple,, bite it and you swap more rights for privileges from the state,,
all these people that think that it will make the world a better place are kidding yourselves,, it wont change anything apart from give the authorities more powers over you,, and potentially create a postition where people start expecting corporations to grow them their dope..
they just play all the idiots that want to believe in the system
Ask her yourself then... ask Dale G too... He doesn't seem to throw around the insults like some of you.
Let's say you had two pounds of marijuana from what you managed to save from YEARS of growing under Prop. 19's restrictive limits, since the pro-19 folks are telling people you can legally hang onto anything you can grow and save from year to year -- despite Prop. 19's ounce limits. (Theoretically, I think this claim is true, based on the Prop's language. Practically speaking, I doubt most MM patients would be able to save anything from year to year, since growing one "garden of 25 square feet/1 plant is not enough for most people's problems, and certainly not enough when two or more patients in one household have to share a plot as required.)
> A warrant to search inside would turn up your hoarded two pounds -- and bingo! it's now up to you to defend yourself from a charge of growing for sale!
Prop. 19 only "excepts," for medical purposes as previoulsy allowed in 11362.5, "possession and consumption" -- not cultiavtion and dsitribution. So if Prop. 19 passes, patients have no right to cultivate more than everyone else, and no right to distribute via collectives.
damn, all the bashing and you guys dont even consider that this thread may be the truth. i bet most of you didn't even get past paragraph 2 before your anger took over and decided to belittle 215forlife.
he showed actual proof from attorneys in his thread, who know the cannabis law. im sure there word is a little bit more regarded then some smokers who think they know how its going to go down on this forum.
open your eyes, you were just shown proof how prop19 will effect medical patients. instead of causing shit, maybe read a little, you may learn a thing or two?....
i cant believe that (in the most corrupt country in the world!) you guys believe in all this,,
america is fucked
you guys need decriminalization so that you have the right to freely grow the plant,,
if you willingly vote for legalisation then you are like all the other idiots that were tempted by the apple,, bite it and you swap more rights for privileges from the state,,
Totally agree!!
Here is what it says in the initiative about that very issue:
"(g) prohibit and punish through civil fines or other remedies the possession, sale, possession for sale, cultivation, processing, or transportation of cannabis that was not obtained lawfully from a person pursuant to this section or section 11300;"
Basically the initiative will allow LOCAL governments to make up whatever penalty they want if you didn't buy your weed from a license holder like Richard Lee. If that tax stamp isn't on your ounce of weed you still go to jail, you still get fined. So much for the little guy...
decriminalisation is the abolition of criminal penalties,, completely seperating it from the state..
they are so clever at shit like this,, always fucking us more and more and hiding it behind something that sounds like you are getting more rights..
decriminalisation is the abolition of criminal penalties,, completely seperating it from the state..
Exactly what say do you think "we" have in changing anything when the Govt is concerned? Maybe you've been living with blinders on? Your Vote Does Not Matter. Your Opinion Does Not Matter. The Truth Does Not Matter. All that matters in the eyes of the Govt is cashing out before they're sussed out as the Criminals they really are ...reality is we are governed by the laws of this corrupt government, which we do have a say in changing. Thus this bill being put forward...
This your fear, that you will be out of business, plain and simple.to put Lee's competition (the small and medium growers) out of business.