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Cannavore

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50% of working americans make $35k or less. to those people i'd imagine $60k would be a godsend.

most employers are petty tyrants who can't operate their business without exploiting the labor of others. millenials and gen z see through it and have had enough.
 

xtsho

Well-known member
Just like construction trades are skilled labor that hired many more middle class Americans then the tech sector.
Just because you type walls of bullshit doesn’t make you smart. It’s mostly fluff

So skilled that High School students can build a house. It's more physical than skilled. You obviously have no idea what some of these tech positions require. Mathematics, Computer Science, Probability and Statistics, Electrical Engineering, etc... require much more than just cutting lumber or using a nail gun.

I worked as a Hod Carrier for two years. While physically demanding it was for the most part a job that didn't require much mental thought. Same thing with most of the trades. Pretty simple stuff. The job that requires the most skill is that of the architect designing the structure. And guess what, There's an H1-B program for Architects.

If one were to use you as a metric then they could only conclude that we actually do need to bring in more H1-B Visa workers. Fortunately you're not and we have plenty of Americans to do these jobs that require advanced skills. Which is why we don't need to bring in foreigners to work in positions where they have the ability to compromise the security of sensitive intellectual property. It's more than just them taking American jobs. They're taking our technology as well.

Benefits of the H-1B Program for Architects​


Job opportunities - The H-1B program opens up more job opportunities for architects, allowing them to work in the United States and gain valuable experience.

Competitive pay - H-1B visa holders in the architectural field often receive competitive salaries, which can be higher than what they might earn in their home countries.

Career growth - Working in the U.S. through the H-1B program can provide architects with opportunities for professional growth and advancement in their careers.

Exposure to diverse projects - Architects with H-1B visas can work on a variety of projects, ranging from residential to commercial, which can enhance their skills and broaden their expertise.
 

audiohi

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It also drives down wages for jobs that require a high level of skill. How do Americans compete with workers that come from countries where college is basically free? In India the government basically pays for everything. Here it's at least $20k a year to go to a decent college. Students come out with decades of debt and low paying jobs because the lower paid H1-B workers have driven the salaries down.

It's just as much this as anything else.

They're determined to take all the power back after that short period of workers gaining a bit of upper hand
 

eastcoastjoe

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So skilled that High School students can build a house. It's more physical than skilled. You obviously have no idea what some of these tech positions require. Mathematics, Computer Science, Probability and Statistics, Electrical Engineering, etc... require much more than just cutting lumber or using a nail gun.

I worked as a Hod Carrier for two years. While physically demanding it was for the most part a job that didn't require much mental thought. Same thing with most of the trades. Pretty simple stuff. The job that requires the most skill is that of the architect designing the structure. And guess what, There's an H1-B program for Architects.

If one were to use you as a metric then they could only conclude that we actually do need to bring in more H1-B Visa workers. Fortunately you're not and we have plenty of Americans to do these jobs that require advanced skills. Which is why we don't need to bring in foreigners to work in positions where they have the ability to compromise the security of sensitive intellectual property. It's more than just them taking American jobs. They're taking our technology as well.

Benefits of the H-1B Program for Architects​


Job opportunities - The H-1B program opens up more job opportunities for architects, allowing them to work in the United States and gain valuable experience.

Competitive pay - H-1B visa holders in the architectural field often receive competitive salaries, which can be higher than what they might earn in their home countries.

Career growth - Working in the U.S. through the H-1B program can provide architects with opportunities for professional growth and advancement in their careers.

Exposure to diverse projects - Architects with H-1B visas can work on a variety of projects, ranging from residential to commercial, which can enhance their skills and broaden their expertise.

You have a tech job ?
 

Microbeman

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  • H-1B: A non-immigrant visa for foreign workers in specialty occupations that require a bachelor's degree or equivalent. The initial visa is valid for three years, and can be extended for up to six years. There is an annual limit on the number of H-1B visas, and if demand is high, a lottery system is used to select which petitions are processed.

  • H-1B1: Similar to the H-1B visa, but only available to citizens of Singapore or Chile.

  • H-2A: For temporary or seasonal agricultural work.

  • H-2B: For temporary or seasonal non-agricultural work. - like at Trump's castle in Florida

  • H-3: For trainees, but not for medical or academic training
 

eastcoastjoe

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I worked as a Hod Carrier for two years. While physically demanding it was for the most part a job that didn't require much mental thought. Same thing with most of the trades. Pretty simple stuff. The job that requires the most skill is that of the architect designing the structure. And guess what, There's an H1-B program for Architects.

You carried bricks before and think that’s all there is to construction ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣. I’d love to see you building a hip and valley roof on a mansion. You’re funny my friend.

The point is, foreigners are coming here and taking jobs of Americans. To you it only seems to matter if they take a skilled job. Maybe your job. Fact is, it requires skills to build homes.
 

xtsho

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You act like $60k a year is a lot of money. It was in the 90's but not now.
And i think you overlook the fact that most americans don't want these jobs.
Millenials no longer receive incentives to stay put with one career, hence why they transition
A majority of Generation Z are entitled and arrogant, most employers don't want to deal with them at all.
So here we are....

What are you talking about?

Here's an example of a job that they pay an H1-B Visa worker to do for $60k. It's not because we lack Americans qualified for the job. It's all about cutting costs.

The average salary for a Machine Learning Data Scientist in the United States is $122,738 per year
 
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xtsho

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You carried bricks before and think that’s all there is to construction ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣. I’d love to see you building a hip and valley roof on a mansion. You’re funny my friend.

The point is, foreigners are coming here and taking jobs of Americans. To you it only seems to matter if they take a skilled job. Maybe your job. Fact is, it requires skills to build homes.

Like I said, easy stuff. I learned geometry in grade school. It's not the framer that designs the building plans. It's the Architect. How many have you designed or did you just follow the plans? I thought so.
 

eastcoastjoe

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What are you talking about?

Here's an example of a job that they pay an H1-B Visa worker to do for $60k. It's not because we lack Americans qualified for the job. It's all about cutting costs.

The average salary for a Data Science Machine Learning in the United States is $122,738 per year

No different than paying an average American carpenter $75,000 but one of these illegals $150 a day. That’s about 35-40k. Doesn’t matter to you though because that’s not your field. Fuck the other American workers and business owners. Just don’t make your tech job as competitive as other fields
 

eastcoastjoe

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Like I said, easy stuff. I learned geometry in grade school. It's not the framer that designs the building plans. It's the Architect. How many have you designed or did you just follow the plans? I thought so.

Architects make mistakes. Things go wrong that need solutions in real time. You wouldn’t know that though because I doubt you ever owned a tool belt.
 

Microbeman

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I didn’t see that. Must of been after you snitched on me 🐀
Here you go; I see the maturity has yet to kick in. For some it is a longer process.
They only accept Rich people. Remember that ? Like you’re better Than somebody 🤣. You think other people don’t have money ?

And your website is still up to this day. Stop the bullshit
The rich thing was a joke, small mind. I leave my website up because I offer free education about microbial horticulture. That does not mean you can facetiously use my name in an attempt to besmirch me.

Link? -https://www.icmag.com/threads/trump-thread-part-2-or-anything-else-we-want-to-talk-about-thats-ridiculous-in-politics-today.18125622/page-308#post-18823754
 

xtsho

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Architects make mistakes. Things go wrong that need solutions in real time. You wouldn’t know that though because I doubt you ever owned a tool belt.

Actually yes I have. I also have a huge collection of tools that I use for working on cars which I'm extremely proficient at and doing construction projects around the house.

Here's the awning I built a few years back. I designed it and did the CAD drawings for the plans myself. Had a friend help with the build. Nothing fancy but it it's all that was needed and dispels your lame tool belt dig.

Got anything else? You better get a bigger gun.

Excuse the mess. The patio has gotten a little messy.

awning.jpg
 

eastcoastjoe

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Actually yes I have. I also have a huge collection of tools that I use for working on cars which I'm extremely proficient at and doing construction projects around the house.

Here's the awning I built a few years back. I designed it and did the CAD drawings for the plans myself. Had a friend help with the build. Nothing fancy but it it's all that was needed and dispels your lame tool belt dig.

Got anything else? You better get a bigger gun.

Excuse the mess. The patio has gotten a little messy.

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OMG 😱. That’s amateur hour 🤦🏻‍♂️. I can see why think builders are not considered skilled
 
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